Tim Tindale

Luck was 10 for 25 with two picks against the Bills' blitz. 16 of 24 against the base 4. http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/6439/andrew-luck

He had four games over 50 yards receiving his rookie year. As someone mentioned, home against the Jets that year (2013) he went 6-81-1 and an additional 17 yards on a reverse, then he only had one target the entire rest of the season. Made zero sense...

I'm not sure if I'm more shocked by the trade or that the board is so split. Shady is one of the top playmakers in the league and our defense is already elite without Alonso. We added an all-pro weapon without giving up a thing (except cap space). I just can't over how much better this roster looks from just three or four years ago. There are all-pro players up and down the roster; this looks more like a potential playoff team than an arena league roster for the first time since the early-2000's. I think Whaley is taking some risk, but I think you have to to get a team over the hump. I think this team is starting to have the look and feel of a Seattle/San Francisco roster.

Russell and smith are/were both sloppy turnover machines at qb that can't/couldn't read nfl defenses. I'd surprised if smith is still in the nfl in a couple years. You can't take care of the football at qb and you aren't a model citizen, you aren't worth the headache. Nothing to do with race. Btw, smith is only the second qb in history to have a qbr under 15 5 games in a row with Russell the first (last link). Not the only one to draw the "simple-minded" comparison... http://www.sportstalk200.com/nfl-news/geno-smith-playing-as-bad-as-jamarcus-russell/2013/ http://www.stampedeblue.com/2013/4/25/4264786/geno-smith-questioning-his-character-is-like-insulting-his-family http://isportsweb.com/2013/12/04/new-york-jets-quarterback-geno-smiths-roller-coaster-rookie-year/

Jamarcus Russell had 13 tds and 7 ints one year. The arrow was pointing up. When a qb has 12 tds and 25 turnovers in one year and home fans were begging for Matt Simms to start, you really have to work hard to come up with "the bright side". But hey, a bills fan found it... In a jet qb.

Geno was a dumpster fire for a qb this year. He has Jamarcus Russell written all over him.

How about season tickets over % of people in the market area? By the way, I'm not sure where you would get the season ticket holder data for various years by team, but maybe your internet skills are better than mine.

The Bills led the NFL in attendance each year from 1990-93, an amazing feat for the league's third-smallest market. And fans have continued to cram into Ralph Wilson Stadium despite cold, windy conditions. http://m.sportsbusinessdaily.com/Journal/Issues/2000/01/20000124/No-Topic-Name/The-Best-And-Worst-NFL-Fans.aspx ... that's why I said "attendance was 'fantastic'". Hard to be better than leading the league in attendance four years in a row.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1988_Buffalo_Bills_season: Divisional playoff game 79.5K attended... Championship game in Cincy only 59K attended. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1990_Buffalo_Bills_season: Divisional playoff game 77.1K attended, Championship game 80.3K attended http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1991_Buffalo_Bills_season: Divisional playoff game 80.2K attended, Championship game 80.3 attendedhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1992_Buffalo_Bills_season: Wild game game 75K+ attended after they got pounded in Houston and Kelly got knocked out in Week 17. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1993_Buffalo_Bills_season: Divisional game: 61K attended, Championship game (which I attended): 76K attended and people stood the whole game. You can see the attendance of every game (home and away) in each of the links - playoffs and regular season. Nearly every game I see is 75K-80K in the regular season. It's worth noting that the attendance is meaningfully higher at home than the games on the road, which reinforces the large stadium/small market phenomenon. The data is there everyone to draw their own conclusions...

I believe at 80K capacity, Rich Stadium was the second- or third-largest stadium (LA Coliseum was bigger and I believe Giants Stadium was close) and the second-smallest fan base. What makes it remarkable is the calculation of what % of the population in a 60-mile radius actually had to attend the game to sell it out each Sunday.

I'm pretty sure we hold the single-season attendance record in the NFL (set in 1991). I think I just read that somewhere. I'm not sure where the "trouble filling seats" comes from. Attendance was always fantastic during the Super Bowl years and we had one of the biggest stadiums in the league.

What's wrong with you guys? That is hilarious stuff. Almost real life art in its irony. The only time we've "posterized" anyone in 14 years. Makes it hysterical to me.

I believe the line in Vegas was 6.5 wins for the Bills to start the year.

I agree with the initial post. I read it to get a good laugh after a win... Bills' fans have lost patience for baby steps-type improvement. It's amazing we're 3-4 given the injuries and the fact that we are on our 4th qb. Everyone wants Hackett's head, yet we're one of two teams (Broncos) that have scored over 20 points in every game. Love this team - more guts than the fans, which is pretty cool. Can't even remember the last time we've won a road divisional game...

It is akin to asking about breathing - never thought about it, never will. I just do it. Being a Bills fan stopped being a conscious decision at birth.

Boooo... This comment sucks. It's far too sane and rational for this board.

I love seeing how many people on the board think the Cowboys will win. It's literally always a good sign... Bills 28-17 over the Cowboys. Jackson, like Lynch last week, runs at will and wears down the Cowboy defense. Bills double Dez Bryant with Austin out. Bills again in first place with the tiebreaker over the Pats, after they pound the Jets.

I wish when you typed, you kept your fingers on the home row keys more often.

This thread is a laugh. Brady threw 4 picks in their loss to the Bills and is having a lousy game against the Cowboys. I doubt Boston is complaining about their lack of a franchise quarterback. Fitz has had injuries across his OL and has lost 3 of his top 5 WR's since the preseason (Evans, Jones, and Parrish). This team is light years ahead of anything we've had in Buffalo for well over a decade. We're a top 5 offense that puts up 20+ pts every game. We don't have an issue on offense and especially qb. Give it a rest. It's hard to win on the road in the NFL and we have two road losses to winning teams by under 7 points each. This year has been a lot of fun and Fitzy is a big part of the resurgence. How about enjoying the ride... By the way, didn't we under-spend the cap by 20MM+ this year. We've way overachieved, especially given the injuries.

I don't know what is more shocking - the rumor or that people think it's a terrible deal for the Bills. It's like getting a rent-a-#1 WR (or even #2) for a special teamer. It's not even a real debate.

All i know is that I felt less miserable reading this silly message board when we were losing. We're like beaten puppies. When I master gives us a treat, we think it's poisoned. I'm looking for virtual high-fives, not 73 reasons why we are going to suck next week. Wait, no, next week. Wait, no, next week... repeat until miserable.

27-10 Bills cruise.

According to rotoworld.com, McGee has already been declared "out" for Week 4.

Wonder what the odds are that the Bills sign a veteran corner off the waiver wire given McGee and Williams are both out. That leaves the Bills 4 healthy corners - McKelvin,Florence, Rogers, and Corner (who they cut in training camp). Anyone read an update on this anywhere?

Except that Spiller picked up the blitz on that Nelson TD on the last drive.