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Good depth move. The more competition, the better. Had 3 productive years in Seattle. DH was not particularly productive in NO yet - presumably - Rob Ryan is okay with this signing.

Over the past two seasons: 51 to 24 TD to INT ratio, QB rating north of 90, 8000 yards. No one will confuse him with Brady, Rodgers or Brees but he's been quietly, unspectacularly productive.

NY Nole. It's posts like this that keeps TBD fans more informed than the national media when it comes to the Bills.

I can think of more guys I want to remove from the HOF than I want to induct. But I would add Don Coryell, Tony Dungy and Kurt Warner. And because I'm a homer, I'd also add Steve Tasker and Butch Byrd. It's sad to note that most AFL superstars (like Butch) are not in the HOF. Check this out: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Football_League_All-Time_Team When you watched him play, did you feel like you were watching a HOF player? I didn't.

It's mostly our scrubs versus their scrubs. We have average scrubs. 2-2.

As a guy who likes history, I enjoyed this story. I had never heard of Jim Dyson before. I've heard speculation and stories suggesting the Bills were NOT named after Buffalo Bill Cody. I guess this article puts those theories to rest. "Dyson wrote a short essay envisioning the Bills as the frontier “posse” for Buffalo Bill Cody, who had killed thousands of bison on behalf of the railroads on the Great Plains."

Shocking how quickly he rose and then fell.

Dave Dameshank - reportedly the only man ever fired in favor of Danny Bonaduce - is probably more noted for his sports humor than his sports acumen. Still it's nice to get some love. I like Shady's skills too but he can cut better than Barry Sanders? Gale Sayers? OJ? Hmmmm....

Indeed. I've been humbled by your argument and have deleted my shameful post.

This pretty much sums up my thinking as well. Even in his prime, I thought Stevie was good but not great.

I suspect you're right. Dunne got a bigger opportunity because he's the better writer. Personally, I read virtually everything Dunne writes and virtually none of the things Sully writes.

Stop loathing Seattle! In fact, both the Bills and Seahawks stole the name from Texas A&M which has used the "12th man" since 1921 and has trademarked the term. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/12th_man_(football)

Man, that's a weird bit of data. Demonstrates the imperfect science of talent evaluation. Neither QB did very much.

Terry and Kim saved the Buffalo Bills. They're both "good" in my book. All owners are active to certain extent. For the sake of the Bills, we don't want them too involved a la Jerry Jones or Dan Snyder. But owners ought to be involved supervising a high level, asking the right questions, supporting their people, holding them accountable, etc. While I have a ton of respect for Terry as successful businessman and self-made billionaire, Kim actually comes across as both brighter and more energetic than Terry. I'm glad she's the active one. And so far she seems to be striking a good balance between being active and trusting the people they hire to do their jobs.

Thanks Astro (& NY Nole)! Living on the other side of the continent, it's great to read these reports and have a sense of what's going on in Rochester.

I haven't been a big fan of our courtship of Bush. It seems to me that we have other backs who can be more productive backups. Just look at YPC of the backs on the roster versus Reggie. And then look at the DOBs. So it's natural to wonder what kind of conversations Doug, Rex and Greg are having. Roman must be telling Rex and DW that Bush will given him a weapon unlike the weapons he already has - a weapon that will add new wrinkles to the offense. I'd love to be a fly on the wall listening to those conversations.

He's handed a brown bag by an assistant. That bag has a secret compartment where the assistant placed an envelope with the replica drawings. Still very well done, I thought.

Terry Miller. Gained over 1,000 yards in his rookie season as a Bill at 4.5 yards per pop. He seemed poised to be the next great Bills running back. Bills fans were yelling, "It's Miller Time!" Then, as I recall, he developed problems with his peripheral vision and his career faded away to nothing.

Just to play devil's advocate, Foles had a 69.0 QB rating last year. EJ had a 78.5 rating. Foles did not look sharp in the 11 games he played last year for the Rams.

Foles has had a funny career. A 27-2 TD-INT ratio, 9.1 ypa, and Pro Bowl nod in 2013. That season he looked like the next great QB. But he was ineffective and twice benched in favor of the mighty Case Keenum in 2015.

There's another version of the Pats story in which Cookie says to the Pats defensive huddle, "Which one of you f*ckers is next?" I never saw Cookie play other than the meager highlights available online but was impressed when Larry Felser said: "Any time. Any place. Any brand of football. Cookie was, pound for pound, the greatest all-around player I ever saw. He would be a superstar in today's football."

What's the name of the dvd? Cookie was an odd guy. Complete warrior at times, prima donna other times. If he played with that warrior spirit all the time, he'd be in the HOF. Here are some quotes from Lou Saban... "Play football, have some fun, knock the sh*t out of people!" "My daughter can do better!" "They're killing me, Whitey, they're killing me!"

"I'm going to tell you something. If we don't win this game, I'm going to beat the sh*t out of everybody in this locker room! And I'm going to start with you, Coach. I'm going to kick your ass first!" ~ Cookie Gilchrist (in a fit of anger at halftime - the coach was Lou Saban). "Your next, mother f*cker!" ~ Cookie Gilchrist to a Pats DE after Cookie knocked a Pats safety out of the game. "We've got to get him out of there. He's going to kill somebody!" ~ Jack Kemp to a coach after Cookie started laying Pats defenders out "If I really hit him, he wouldn't be here." ~ Cookie denying charges he hit a police officer. "I want to teach them a lesson. If I run over ’em, they won’t come up anymore." ~ Cookie on why he runs over LBs, CBs and safeties instead of trying to sidestep them.

With all our young backs, why do we want an old vet?

I liked Rex a lot more after reading Collision Low Crossers. I liked him a lot less after seeing what he did with our D last season. I suspect he's an average football coach with the bravado of a megalomaniac. The bravado doesn't bother me - the mediocrity does. But there's enough good stuff in his resume - his years as DC with Baltimore, his defensive accomplishments his first couple years with the Jets - that I remain open-minded.