DisplacedBillsFan

It is absolutely the right decision to not draft one. Not sure why most seem to think this is the plan. We're set up to get half a dozen top prospects. I think the plan is to do this, and not draft a QB high in 2018. It takes more than a QB to win and I think our new GM and coach understand this

False. I support the trades and think going after a QB in 2018 would be the worst decision we could make. We're set up for draft day success. Let's not ruin that by trading a boatload of top picks for a QB prospect. Let's stockpile talent with this picks in the top 50.

This...SO much. Baseball teams do it all the time. NFL teams rarely admit to a rebuild because it is such a "win now" business. What these trades do is give us a much better chance of being better in the future. Although, that said, I do not think this year's results will be dramatically different than they would have been with Sammy and Darby. I saw 8 to 11 wins before, and I still see 8 to 11 wins.

A stronger top 3 at CB - yes I'm viewing Gaines as an upgrade over Darby, who was consistently a liability A WR who will consistently be on the field and will likely give us stats similar to what Sammy gave us in 2014 (This is pretty much a guarantee as opposed to the IF Sammy stays healthy he's gonna go for 1700 yards and 12 TDs) Most importantly, we now have the picks needed to start legitimately building through the draft. This is how all good teams do it in this league, and 2018 will be the start of that for us.

Yea, I read and completely understand it, and it appears we just have different perceptions on this and his value. I was originally upset with this trade and have been a huge Sammy fan, but after considering all of the factors of what he actually brings to this team, what we got in return, and the real possibility he would not have be signed again anyway after this year, I see this trade as a huge positive for a franchise that has consistently struggled. Again, considering all factors with both trades, we are better off now than we were before the trades.

Yea, I got that.

You're still picking a specific 9 game sample size that supports your opinion and ignoring the rest of his career statistics. The problem is you reached your conclusion and now you're trying to find information to support it.

Ha! I should have know better before using stats. Opinion and emotions are way better ways to support points during dialogue.

Did he make the most of his opportunities? Elite receivers in the NFL have catch rates in the mid to high 70% range while good receivers, like the ones you would pick for your fantasy team most likely, are well into the 60% range. Sammy barely snuck into the 60s in 2015, he barely broke into the 50% range his other two years.

9 games? So the other 39 games of his tenure when he wasn't on the field at all, or wasn't producing at all, were the fault of someone else or the play calling I bet? I ask you for a season you were happy with him and you pick out half a season. Mike Williams also had a ton of potential. Do you wish the Bills were still paying him and waiting for him to get it together? Trent Edwards had a few good games, should he be given a shot to be our QB?

And tell me, when is the last time you were actually happy with a season's worth of on-field production from this "one of two best offensive players"? Go ahead, I'll wait. With Sammy, it has always been about the prospect and potential of what he can do, and aside from a good/great game here and there, it has never been about what he has actually done or contributed to this team.

At least a few people get it.

The people who are upset likely own a Sammy jersey or just loved watching him play because of how exciting he can be. Fortunately Beane appears to not care what we think as fans. Guess what. He was hired to run this business and make it successful, and he is running that business the way he sees fit and the way that will get it to be a consistent success. Thankfully he is not trying to appease the fans and make them feel good about their emotional connection to players.

Playoffs likely this year AND the ability to build through the draft. We are well on the way to becoming a team that is competitive on an annual basis. Great moves and great day to be a Bills fan! Can't wait for the season to start. We finally have people in place who know how to run an NFL franchise.

Uhhhhh...yea. That's pretty much what I indicated. Not sure why the "wake up" comment.

It may look bad now, but these moves make us a better franchise. We finally have a GM and coach who can see the big picture.

Don't mind the Darby trade, not even initially. Hated the Sammy trade at first, mostly because he is so fun and entertaining to watch when he is on the field, and when he is healthy and gets the ball thrown his direction, he can change the game. But... This was Sammy's last year with us anyway. No way we were paying him. Might as well get something in return while we can. Darby was Darby. Great at times and awful at times. White, Seymour and Gaines actually give us a solid top 3 at CB. I'm not worried about that position now. We have two picks in each of the first three rounds Mostly I like it because these are not moves our previous leadership would have made. They're not trying to win 9 or 10 games and sneak into the wildcard (though I believe that is exactly what will happen this year). They are trying to build a foundation and make this team competitive for years to come. That means you have moves like this that sting, but I'll take that if we can be consistently good. Good teams build through the draft and now we can do that.

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This is equivalent to me dropping a $100 bill in the parking lot. It kinda sucks, but not going to change my life.

You misunderstood. I already recognized that your attitude about this team is extremely negative. I was just curious as to if anything in life brings you joy.

And, remind me, are you a Watkins fan or are you one who's always complaining about him being hurt and useless? Because, you can't constantly complain about him for four years and then also complain because his 5th year option isn't picked up.

Do people that do nothing but complain on this board and offer their pessimistic and negative outlooks no matter what happens go through the rest of their lives like this too, or is it just a message board persona? Hopefully all you negative Nancy type folks have some joy in your life somewhere. Try to bring a smile to the board once in a while instead of your constant negative nonsense.

It's not the MLB, you can't pay everyone, even when the cap isn't mismanaged. Again I'll emphasize that it seemed like 90% of this board would have flipped out had we resigned Gilmore and Woods and now that same 90% is complaining because we didn't.

This has to be the opinion that confuses me the most (Not calling you out specifically), because so many people complained about what a bum and liability Gilmore was, then said Whaley better not over pay Gilmore, now everyone acts as if we handed him to the Patriots and set the team back 10 years. Confusing. The exact same thing is being said about Zay replacing Woods, and again, 99% of this board would have thrown a fit had we signed Woods to a new deal. I'm fairly confident we could win back-to-back super bowls and people would complain on this board.

Because an unproven draft pick, 17 spots higher than where we'll pick now would have, what...taken us from a 7-9 team to 14-2 or something?