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Makes some sense. Use a college guy to coach what will be a line of guys just out of or within a year or two of college.

Wow, you used such big letters and even little banging head icons! Such angst. "Why can't they all just see clearly...like i do" he seems to say..... Pal, Vick is trash. A dog torturing, eletrocuting, brutal and evil guy. He paid his debt...blah blah. You can be an apologist for this trash all you want. It doesn't change what he is. We don't need him or want him. There, small font and no cartoons.

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Yeah, Milloy was decent. So was Bledsoe. But not as good as what the Pats replaced them with. Using your logic, we'll always be less then the Pats. I'm just saying let's build without the Pats strategic cuts. They'll likely have little milage left and cost us too much when we should be building with young legs.

pft is reporting both joey porter and adulius thomas are going to be cut soon. i think both would bring the attitude we are looking for the defense to have.. If the Pats are cutting Thomas, it's because he's past his prime. Haven't we learned that yet with Milloy and Bledsoe? Let's build with the draft.

The guy is a horrible football player. What has he done that merits the ballwashing? Why do people think it's not important for a QB to be able to throw the ball? +1

Tebow is a project....round 3 the earliest. Vick? Not particularly effective in his career, an inaccurate passer and he electrocuted and tortured dogs. That's a complete package for you. Hey Russ, stay the Hell away from football stuff and let Nix and the Whaley make player decisions.

Age old dilemma. It's about the players. If the Tampa 2 in Buffalo were being played like Tampa did in 2005, we'd all be happy and not saying the defense was too small. That's because the Bucs in 05 could run, had great speed, were great tacklers and had linbackers that could cover a lot of ground. Without speed, great tackling, a fast middle linebacker you get ....us. A defense that is just small and gets injured way too much. The typical 46 defense get's carved up by a good westcoast offense. Too slow for quick passes. If we switch to a 3-4, it will be years to get the right personnel in here. This board hated the "read and react" 3-4 as it was a "bend don't break" effort. (Looks good to me right now. ) At the end of the day, an attacking 3-4 is my favorite. It could suck with bad personnel, but it's fun football to watch. I wonder if this board would give the team the few years it will need to build that kind of defense.

1) Vick is not that effective to begin with and is a questionable passer at best. 2) He murdered, electocuted and tortured dogs. That's the leader you want? Move on and get a qb we don't have to apologize for.

Boo Frickety Hoo....don't know what is worse - your little negative tantrum post or the stupid smiley faces you stick in everywhere. Say what you gotta say, stupid as it may be and lay off the cartoons man.

LB or DL should be first round pick. QB"s look unremarkable and outside of Okung, why blow a #1 pick on a second round talent.

There isn't a qb worth picking in the first round. Get a LB, DL or OL...best available.

Stupid Thread

I stood next to him at a sports dinner in Rochester. He's small for a DE. Small frame, narrow hips and looks more like a linebacker. Schobel just seems thicker in size. I just can't see this guy pushing a OL around.