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Fair assessment. Hate seeing guys end with an injury but it seems the right time

Its a meh move. Was fine beforehand and not going to freak after the fact. I tend not to deal him for a day 3 pick 9 years down the line, but if he wasn’t in the plans, he wasn’t in the plans.

Im not arguing taylor is great. I’m saying he does some stuff well, and peterman hitting on some of TTs weaknesses makes many fans overvalue his accomplishments. If Taylor was a great rhythm passer with poor arm we’d be less excited about peterman and overvalue a guy like cardale for his rocket. It’s just the basic knee jerk

Never like empty backfield shotgun from the 1

Different qb. better far from clear. Good at some of tyrods weaknesses, yes.

Ah, yea. It’s blurred together some and not a stat I exactly track. in today’s nfl it’s a rarity and happening to us a lot.

3 points again... that’s today, Carolina, and the jets entering the 4th?

Im pretty sure he was going for HOV.

He gets paid a lot more than you or I to get that right. Against brady in a tight game getting close to the end zone maybe don’t let them get to the line and quick snap you on 4th and inches OR if they got a bad spot. Either way they were beating us in situational awareness. That we didn’t even know the down and distance only makes it worse.

Cant criticize him at all, eh?

Aw shucks. If only we could make decisions quickly too. Damn them moving faster then us... must be cheating.

He shouldve done something about it

No challenge is a major mistake. And here we go into the 4th with 3 points for the 3rd time this year?

Not unfair- I’m not an expert on mayfield but things like hard working and pudgy are hard to reconcile for me. With Wilson it was clear he checked every box but had height questions. With mayfield there are a ton of question marks across the board.

The one perk is if they take one without trade is, much like EJ, the trade back (in this case last year) for qb plus pick instead of trading up makes it a softer blow if the risky qb flops. pair that guy with a vet (even TT) and you can still add a lot of outside talent. It’s not the worst but not the dream come true of getting a TOP prospect

At this point I believe Shaq is the only Whaley first rounder left (wood was nix?) and none of his second rounders are left (cordy likewise nix) right?

Then fast snap the ball and run the original call

Mostly lame, but whatever. They are having fun and it’s a game. Go be lame and have some fun.

I take Julio over him. I’d venture we all do. I think most made that comp point on their first couple years as a rebuttal to him being called a bum, and a #3 that hadn’t accomplished anything. Even you said top half of the #1 receiver rankings. If we are debating whether he’s 5-10 or 10-15 I think that you get a different caliber of argument than is he a high end starter or is he a rotational bench player

Yea. Easily a huge catch with anything near him. It’s hard to catch on my phone but looks like if he simply carries his stride the ball would’ve landed, what, about 7 yards behind him? To adjust that far- from a full sprint to near dead stop in the couple of strides it took is not near as easy as some want to believe. There was no way he had an ounce of consideration for a back shoulder throw there, and that was behind even for that to be a comp point for detractors

https://mobile.twitter.com/Saints/status/934936189345218561/video/1 theres the play for reference. I think thats a tougher catch than it appears on the surface. Far tougher than the OP pretends. I think you drop any wr into that and the catch rate is very low.

And two interference calls And I’d add takes hits and gets contested balls

Theres a difference between a catastrophic defect that can cause consequence to the consumer, and simply moving on with acceptable margins of error. No company is acknowledging every single mistake. In fact most avoid acknowledging as many as they can and then remedy as much of the remaining as quietly as possible.... leaving us to just hear about a small slice of them.

Thats likewise an nfl stance. They worry that allowing and/or encouraging a true feedback loop would just let the perception of problems grow. If they shut it down then outside the most egregious most fans only ever see so many and remember only a few outside of those against their teams. you start putting out press releases and punishments publicly and fans have red meat.

Id imagine that if a guy gets wildly out of line he’s not getting playoffs, and eventually working his way out of the league. Again, 100% accuracy isn’t going to happen. So, is it a bad call? Yes. Was it egregious given his angle? I honestly didn’t catch his view. I find that often goes a long way in explaining our perception differing from the actual call. And I have no idea his history. What do you think is reasonable punishment for today’s and why?