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Oh man that would have been sweet. Why can't free agency start a week later every year so the roster bonuses can kick in(or out) on the 17th?

Yeah surprised me as well. I thought Morse would be cut and then Bates would be traded at the end of TC. But the plan now, according to Shil Capaccio is for McGovern to start at C and Edwards be LG1. As I've mentioned before, I really want them to get some players out of this deep draft class at OL. This opens up some roster space.

Eh.........Beane should save the dialogue and just punch himself in the nuts for that one. That fail is all on him for signing a guy with sub 200 yards receiving per year who was also coming off missing most of the prior year to injury to that kind of money in the first place. Just a total dumb@ss signing by Beane. He did much better with McGovern and the later signings.

Oh McDermott got fired? I missed that. Congrats on being right.

Everything is a negotiation.........I expect Beane was working on his agent for a pay cut.

Beane obliterated the all time record for dead cap created in the 2018 offseason. I think it was about twice that figure and that was, of course, when the cap was much smaller. Now Denver has like $70M plus dead cap just for cutting Russ. It's all relative. I used to laugh when Beane would wax about how the previous regime had put them in cap hell when they were $32M under the cap heading into free agency in 2017 with almost nothing committed into 2019. Gotta' respect the audacity it took to say sh!t like that when it could so easily be refuted. He just knew the average fan would buy it unconditionally because they wanted a regime change. BB has been faking it til' he makes it.........I think he's smart he was just really raw as a personnel man...........and I am hoping THIS is the offseason where he really kills it with great decisions. Off to a good start not being a slave to sentimentality. These moves had to be made, IMO.

Nah. Axe Wednesday.

They have plenty of "levers to pull" to get plenty of cap space. This cut was just a football move that was hastened by a money deadline, IMO. The other moves were more money moves hastened by a money deadline. It is highly unlikely for Tre to return to form.

Axe Wednesday!

Like I said the Cowboys had no pass rush in 1991. Without a pass rush you aren't winning a SB in any era. Haley was the catalyst. So all that rosterbating in the back 7 you are doing is irrelevant without changing that aspect. Haley joined largely the same group of pass rushers and they basically doubled their team sack production. End of story. Did other acquisitions contribute? Sure but you could say that about other acquisitions in Tampa when Brady arrived or the Rams when Stafford arrived. It's not a state secret how huge the acquisition of Haley was you just didn't understand it in the moment. Some of us did.

Yeah I thought that was already established........before you went on to downplay the acquisition so I'm just pointing out how wrong you are about that. The Cowboys didn't have a pass rush. It was anemic, bottom of the league level in 1991. That's why they were an easy out for Detroit in the playoffs the year prior. Maybe you didn't live it or were a child and didn't understand.......but that trade changed everything for them.

Dallas didn't have Haley. A great edge rusher AND SB rings. He made as big of a difference as any single acquisition for an eventual that-season SB winner until Tom Brady to Tampa and Stafford to LAR. It's easier NOW than ever for a single great player to swing the pendulum because the disparity between rosters has never been smaller. Chris Jones could be that guy this year.

Yeah, this is the point of trading Bates. The cap room gained next season is just as valuable as it is now. Getting under the cap before UFA isn't really going to be a challenge. Bates is excellent depth but as they get deeper into cap debt they need to sacrifice experienced depth for youth. Anderson and Van Demark represent the youth replacing Bates versatility as the C/swing tackle. I think that's a better situation than relying on Eli Ankou as the depth at DT1T, for instance.

The biggest factor in his trade value is that this is the best OL draft in decades. If it were a bad draft, given the state of current OL play in the NFL then perhaps he does warrant better value than Brown(who was arriving with big contract demands, limited work at LT in a heavy run offense and wasn't/isn't as good of a pass blocker, the more important skill). But this season there are going to be guys late in round 1 who teams think will be as good or better than Dawkins in pretty short order.......and they can be had cheap and potentially for a long time. Not a sellers market for OL.

Entertainment is a purpose. I apologize if this suddenly makes you aware of how pointless your following of a pro sports team is in the grand scheme of things but the NFL is only truly purposeful (by your definition) to those who are profiting from it professionally.

I anticipated this but didn't expect it could happen until late in TC. Thought Mitch Morse would get released and that Anderson and Bates could fight it out for the center job and if Anderson won then Bates would be dealt. Guessing this signals that Morse is in still. I also want to come out of this draft with 3 OL if possible and need roster spots to do that. Lot's of good OL to be had and a good opportunity to re-set the pay scale at OL for the Bills over next couple seasons.

Yeah regarding offensive line in this draft.........needs change FAST. I often cite that 2014 draft where the Bills passed on Aaron Donald. I couldn't find a soul on TSW interested in Donald because the Bills had a DL of Mario/Dareus/KW/Hughes so it wasn't an immediate need. The "Cold Front" turned out to be a brief bluster and in the 2016 draft the DL was the #1 need of the team.

I like it. Hopefully the Hunt family is adopting "cash to the cap" now that they have some fresh Lombardi's in the case.

I think he had to be medically cleared to be released without an injury settlement so I suspect #1 is probably not the case. But the reality is that he probably wasn't going to be nearly the same player in 2024 that he was prior to the ACL tear. I know many of us feared that Beane would do the wrong and "sentimental" thing with Hines........like he did when he allowed guys who screwed him with poor effort like Vernon Butler and Star Lotulelei to hang around with pay cuts..........but this really was an easy "no brainer" level decision to cut an injured RB.

Yeah people see a player like Shakir or Bernard emerge who had underwhelmed prior and just assume those players are studs now. Fans need to learn from the past. Lot's of players have one successful season or a brief run where they look tremendous...........and then fall off dramatically for various reasons. Shakir showed a lot of promise but competition and depth at slot can only help........and this is a good draft to find some. Same goes for a guy like Torrence for me. I am sure a lot of people assume it's just up and up for him now but they assumed the same with Spencer Brown and then were trying to run him out of town when he took a step back in year 2. Maybe the best OL draft of the 2000's........so it would be foolish to not select any just because you think you are set because Torrence had a decent rookie season.

Such an unnecessary "L" to take for @BillsFanForever19.

Agree that if it were just a broken leg he'd be cleared by now.

Better on offense Worse on defense Might be able to add some defensive pieces this spring/summer cheap

Hmmph..........I thought Beane just said the other day that Matt Milano probably won't be ready until TC and maybe not even at the beginning of camp? So to the OP...........no because: 1) You can't trade an injured player or/and 2) He doesn't have the trade value of an early round pick because of the injury, salary(9.2M base salary) age(30 in July) and positional value(LB's don't tend to get drafted early because the position is devalued) .

Yeah I'm not really inclined to trade up for anyone either. The Bills need to begin a youth movement. Ideally they get 3 WR and 3 OL from this draft. Because that's the strength of this draft and that's how you should draft. And hopefully they can also address the DL along the way and find a couple values at other positions. Using draft capital to move up compromises that strategy. The idea that they can't roster 10 draft picks any longer is over now that the cap limitations have set in. And using next years picks is not what I want to see either.