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So we had agreed that the Bills passing game was not good enough in 2023 and running the ball 9.2 times per game was putting hard miles on Josh Allen........and now we are hoping they get back to "not good enough". And ignoring the fact that the NFL is a matchup league. "Yeah, we don't need Ted Washington in the middle........we can just stop the run with numbers!" That lasted about 2 quarters into game one of the Gregg Williams regime before it became obvious that they had made a serious mistake in judgement going into the season with that "aggregate" mindset in a matchup league. Who in this re-aligned Bills receiving corps is beating a good CB1? I saw someone photoshop Sauce Gardner into that pic of Keon Coleman making the one-handed grab against Syracuse. Yeah, that ain't happening in real life. That means the defense can then double whoever the Bills view as WR1. But they won't need to because the Bills don't have one of those. You aren't beating the defense with numbers........it's still 11 on 11. You gotta' win matchups.

I would hope that Beane would be all over DK Metcalf if he were available in June. But I think they might be bought into a "rebuild" for 2025 mode and cling to all of their draft capital. I remember entering the 2007 offseason there was real hype building with media talking heads and Bills fans about how the Bills were putting together a young team that could soon challenge the Patriots. Fans were really in on Dick Jauron and drinking he and Marv's Kool aid. It was seen as OK that they let Nate Clements leave in UFA without using the franchise tag because they were getting their guys and getting younger. Then the Patriots traded a 4th round pick for Randy Moss........and proceeded to create MASSIVE distance between them and the Bills. They literally scored 8 straight TD's in the game at Buffalo that season as they went f*cking 16-0 with the highest scoring offense in NFL history. Moss tore Jauron's asssup for 3 years until he was rightfully sh!tcanned. The moral of the story is that only a fool would expect that the championship team that you have been chasing will get complacent or be conservative and get themselves caught. No team has won 3 straight Super Bowls. The Chiefs KNOW that it will be harder to get this 3rd one and they may well just go to excess to create separation between them and opponents. The Bills should be in on a difference maker like Metcalf. He's not going to bring a 1st round return............so don't NOT get DK Metcalf just so you can get a shot on next years Cole Bishop.

Yeah, last offseason when people were talking up the acquisitions of Sherfield and Harty like Beane had found a couple gems..........they didn't like it when I pointed out that they hadn't produced for sh!t in their relatively long NFL careers and were unlikely to even produce as much as departing bums Crowder/McKenzie(and indeed, those two stiffs did put up a few more combined receiving yards than Sherf+Sharty). Fans just assumed Sherf/Sharty would be better with the Bills. Truer to form.......they were not. There is a little of that going on here again. Curtis Samuel has the most yards receiving in one NFL season of any receiver on the roster with 851 four seasons ago in 2020. If that remains the case it's the first time since 1987 that they will have taken a receiving corps into a season without at least one receiver who had produced at least one 900 yard season in their career. Prior to that 1987 season you gotta' go back at least into the 1970's or 1960's. I mean this is a REALLY unproven WR corps. It is a big ask to basically expect everybody to play better than the year before......and in the process have the best year of their career to date.

Yeah doesn't sound good. Maybe the potential sale of 25% has something to do with liquidating part of that asset to distribute to soon to be disenfranchised heirs.

Agree, last season was an unnecessarily joyless slog. Chuck Pagano made some dead-fxcking-on-hilarious comment about McDermott's ####### being so tight on the sideline that all he needed was a needle and a chain and he could tow a rail car. It should always be fun having prime Josh Allen. But, two of the past 3 years they've found a way to fXck it up and the other year the Damar tragedy and Josh's untimely Britt drama threw a wet blanket on that one. If you aren't going to win a Super Bowl at least give us a team/season fitting of Allen's talent. If you are going to be the Chargers be the Air Coryell Chargers not Marty and Norv's Chargers.

You do know that Stephen Ross' "corner office" is a yacht, right? Terry Pegula rarely attends a Sabres game because he's in his "corner office", much closer to the equator, as well.

Zay Jones is a meager career 10 yards per reception possession receiver who lead NFL WR in drop % rate(10.7%) in 2022 and has a career 57% catch rate. That's the kind of catch rate you expect from someone with about 50% more yards per reception. Drop-zone Jones is the very definition of "Juiceless and Useless".

Sometimes star players just decide they need to work with other coaches and players because what they've been doing just isn't working. Doesn't have to be hate. None of your 4 "points" are in any way necessary for this to be plausible. QB/front office conflict didn't stop Brady from winning his last couple SB's in NE. Nor did it keep Rodgers from winning back-to-back MVP's. All that needs to happen is Allen just feeling like he needs change. What's implausible is thinking that an elite QB will just be cool with the other side of the ball imploding every year in the playoffs.........when that side of the ball is the HC's specialty. Started with blowing a 16 point lead in Houston in 2019. Then a blowout in KC in 2020. 13 seconds. Bengals just dominating the Bills defense at home in 2022 and same with Chiefs in 2023. McDermott's side of the ball has consistently let Allen's side down in the playoffs. Doesn't have to hate him to think he needs a change.

It's not me predicting a "probable" scenario. The context of this thread is what would make McDermott and/or Beane NOT locks to stay. The answer is Allen deciding he needs a situation change. Capiche? But I literally gave you an example, in Matt Stafford. A beloved player who was totally invested in Detroit but finally decided he needed to go elsewhere to get a ring(s). I am not an anti-McDermott person. But Allen has been blocked from the SB 4 times and counting by Mahomes and Burrow.........who both have offensive minded HC's. Allen is a CA native and has chosen to make LA his home. When asked why he lives there.......he says why wouldn't anyone want to live in LA? He loves it and his GF lives there to boot. Kyle Shanahan and Sean McVay are arguably the 2 brightest offensive minds in the NFL and also happen to coach in CA and they have reached 4 of the last 6 SB's. They've just been out-QB'd in the SB. And they don't have long term commitments at the QB position. There are less elite QB's to compete against in the NFC. More home time, more earning opportunities in LA. And again, a chance to play Mahomes in a Super Bowl with an elite HC instead of in a divisional round with a defensive HC whose defense has TOTALLY fallen apart in all 3 meetings with Mahomes.

As for what I envision..........I envision Allen(and his agent, family etc..) having to be dissuaded from seeking greener pastures if they don't get past Mahomes and to a SB this year or the next at the latest. If he decides he wants to go to a place with an offensive minded HC who actually gets to Super Bowls INSTEAD of staying with McDermott and getting speedboat out of the playoffs every year, Pegula will have to oblige. Just like Detroit had to with Stafford. But you can be sure that the Bills organization will try to give Allen the same situation in Buffalo first. They'd be dumb not to. Elite QB's are a lot harder to find than solid HC's.

They aren't close. It's a professional relationship. Two very different types of people. Now Daboll and Josh Allen? They were close. It's not a matter of Allen having to go behind anyone's back. If he refuses to sign an extension next offseason, Pegula will have to do what he has to do to keep Josh Allen on board.

I don't disagree. I've wanted them to become more multiple on defense for years. Adapt to opponents like the Patriots did for years. Or even like Spags and the Chiefs. It's been maddening watching them in the same defense for 7 seasons and despite all of that continuity........when they get to the playoffs they are just fish in a barrel for the likes of Burrow and Mahomes. Other teams actually do get stops against those QB's in the playoffs. I just think this one move is an outlier.

I can't say I'd be happy with that kind of result. I'd at best be indifferent. I was hoping they'd pick Austin Booker with that selection they traded to the Bears........and that's who the Bears took. I liked what I saw of Solomon........I even thought he might have a clearer path to success in the NFL. As an OLB edge rusher. But he's just not a fit for the Bills defense so he was basically off-the-board for me there. Hopefully they find a way to make it work. Didn't work with Moats. On D he did next to nothing well with the Bills. We were collectively glad to see him go after the 2013 season. He played WAY better in Pittsburgh, in a scheme that fit his skills.

You really think Josh Allen views McDermott like his dad?

Even that's an issue. It's not like Josh is the type to throw his HC under the bus. I think we attribute things to Josh Allen that we want him to be..........but should probably know better than to presume. We've already had to back off the idea that he was going to work tirelessly like Tom Brady to be the best..........or that he wouldn't let his personal life affect his play on the field in a playoff game etc..

Their employment with the Bills is totally Josh Allen's call at this point.

Ty Johnson is just a guy. He had 132 yards last year, just 4.4 ypc and got injured. It's not like he "broke out"......it was his lowest production season as a pro. The perception of him by Bills fans is that he's a lot better than he is. Dude's been kicking around doing very little for quite a while.

Yeah, what I was saying is Ansah went from raw has could be and only being a defensive player for one season(he was just a special teams guy prior) to being really good right away in the NFL. Boehringer is the opposite.......he is one of the 5 highest RAS score receivers to enter the draft since 1987 and never translated. I do think that it's just A LOT easier to come out of nowhere like Ansah or Jordan Mailata if you are a lineman. Skill position guys typically now are getting a decade plus of year round skill honing prior to entering the league and there is a lot of competition. Big guys who are athletic are always really hard to find so these foreign giants have a greater opportunity to succeed, IMO.

Ziggy Ansah didn't dominate in college. He really only played defense his final year at BYU, when he had a modest 4.5 sacks. He had 8 as an NFL rookie. Mohritz Boehringer was a story of a crazy size/speed talent who didn't make it. 9.98 RAS. https://www.mockdraftable.com/player/moritz-boehringer

Collins is not even a lock to not retire before the season.

Beane's game with fans is to set expectations low under the guise of "shooting straight with them". Then if they exceed the expectations he graciously accepts the accolades. This situation is no different. Game's over next year........when it becomes imperative to convince Allen to sign a new contract extension.

It's ultimately Josh Allen's decision. LA and SF beckon.

It's the inconvenient truth.