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Yeah but those were all very established players over multiple years prior. Edwards was a 3+ year starter in LA and Rapp started at safety on their SB winning team. Daryl Williams was literally an All-Pro tackle with Carolina. Feliciano isn't in that category, he signed a low end starters deal by 2019 standard so not really a flyer. Spain had been a full time starter for the 3 years prior(he just wasn't in demand for character reasons which became evident just months after the Bills re-signed him the following offseason, unfortunately). So Beane has hit on a few of his injury/character flyers. But none of those were in the never-was-prior category. Like a Tyrod or Lorenzo Alexander in 2015, for instance. Finding talent that flourishes where it hadn't/couldn't elsewhere. I don't expect Pro Bowl and NFL DPOY contender type performances like Tyrod and Lorax had but one starter would be a start at least. Forrest only started for a partial season prior so I would put him in that category of found talent in the event that he pans out.

Beane needs to bring in a few(or more) of these change-of-scenery types and hopefully one of them hits and they find a cheap starter or better. Free agency has been by far Beane's biggest weakness and this is one category where he's never really gotten much of anything. If memory serves correct, Ty Johnson is about the only cheap/talented but never-was-at-prior-stops types he has found in pro personnel in his prior 7 offseasons.

Yeah I remember when they wanted a big 1 tech to keep blockers off of their gigantic 6'5# 250# MLB when the league was nearing it's peak as a passing league............then as the league goes back to running the ball more they want two 3T tech types in the middle to allow their 220# MLB to be consumed by blockers and totally negate his elite blitzing ability. This new defense better be damn creative because this counter-intuitive stuff that then subsequently doesn't work is getting a bit old.

Likely just coincidental. I think Pegula has probably learned his lesson wrt dealing with agents. I doubt he had anything to do with that situation. Todd France being cozy with Pegula is how Marcell Dareus got that unprecedented, no-personal-conduct-clause megadeal from Terry. Man, that was a costly lesson for Terry.

Beane badly needs to nail these signings to show he has improved wrt pro personnel decisions. If this class is a bust.........I gotta' say it........it's a fireable offense. And I am far from his biggest critic. I thought he was getting wiser but this class looks like a big investment in a bunch of guys who all need to be better than they were last year to justify. It's hard to get *same* results but paying money that clearly anticipates BETTER production is not a formula for success in FA. He's laid out a lot of money for Palmer, Hoecht, Bosa and Ogunjobi. Probably, collectively, double the aav they were expected to get on the market and that impacts future caps even though some people can't grasp the idea because they are fooled by the "1 year deal" aspect. Cap money spent now is cap money that could have been rolled over and therefore it is less that can be spent later. That's why Beane's horrendous 2018 spending spree limited his flexibility in the early 2020's. It wasn't the covid year cap reduction that people tried to blame. Every team had to deal with that and contract values were depressed commensurately. It was horrendous signings like giving Star Lotuelei a 5 year $50M deal........and eventually paying out over $40M of that for 2 and a half seasons of mediocrity.......when Star was projected to get a 1 year $4M deal after a bad year in Carolina. That 2018 class was over $100M invested in garbage at a time when the cap was just $177M. Beane doesn't have a good track record with these type of deals that look like over-pays. I'm quite surprised he's put his neck out there like this for this group. So they'd better hit.🤞

I take the naive comment back. It's common sense that you lack.😂

@MJS is just very naive. GM's can talk all they want to agents at any time. And no agent is going to reveal that they were discussing some pending UFA's contract or availability whether it's in November or the days just prior to the free agency tampering window. Kim Miale of Roc Nation is Stanley's agent. Either Stanley is trying to sabotage Ravens rivals and going rogue on his agent figuring he doesn't need her anymore or the teams attempted to go around her. Perhaps she and Stanley had a disagreement about him taking so much less to stay with Baltimore. But teams OBVIOUSLY tamper with pending free agents all the time.

There are cap ramifications in subsequent years for all of these 1 year deals. Because unused cap space can be rolled over. If you don't spend it in 2025 you THEN have it to spend in 2026. So these signings DO impact future spending capability. Even if Beane isn't tacking on void years to these deals to fit them under the cap now(which he might be). The talk about there NOT being any impact on future cap situations reminds me of when Beane spent over $100M on trash in UFA in his first offseason. That spree is why the Bills couldn't get thru JA's first contract without being cap stressed.

Yeah he was due $7M this year. His deal with the Bills could be worth closer to $10M if he hits incentives. If that was his market the Steelers could have dealt him for a late pick or a pick swap at least.

This one is perplexing for $8M. That's a REALLY nice contract for a guy who needs to re-hab his image as a player. I was expecting a trade for Dalvin Tomlinson to be their DT move. They need a 1 tech and if he gets released he will probably cost more than his $3M base salary with the Browns. I presume the Browns floated out his release to stir up trade interest.

No Tim Settle was actually really BAD for Houston but they let him just shoot gaps to his hearts content so he made some plays in the backfield. He wants no part of doing the dirty work at DT. Which is too bad because he's built to play with leverage. Jordan Phillips wants nothing to do with defending 2 gaps either but at least he has the excuse of being tall and long legged.

She's not from Buffalo.😂 She's from Long Island. Kyle had an agreement to sign with the Bills and she threw a tantrum, bursting into tears at the thought......so he welched.

OJ Simpson asked to be traded to the Rams in 1976 and Ralph finally acquiesced with a trade to the 49ers in 1978 instead. It happens. Nothing new and not that much like the NBA. Still very infrequent in the NFL.

So the 200+ yards in the playoff games at Philly and GB in 2020 don't count as cold weather? And you say his performance declines later in the season(when it gets colder)? I think you are confusing the fact that inclement weather tends to reduce the passing game in general with the idea that DK is notably more affected than most WR in those conditions. As Bills fans we regularly watch the team struggle to pass the ball at home in windy, rainy or cold situations and then go on the road to a warm outdoor environment or in a dome the next week and look like a totally different team. Just saw it in the back to back games versus LA and Detroit this year. Proved a little tougher to thread those needles in the cold of the playoffs, didn't it? Ideally, all skill players prefer to play in domes or warm environments. But that's why you build a winning organization that can draw talent that would otherwise prefer to play in a warmer climate.

Yes you did, and I might not have been one of those protesting but I thought you were wrong.

Sucks to DK's asthma excuse. 😂 He's just saying that to try to funnel himself to the LA Chargers. Where he lives. As I told @LowPositive, if the Chargers don't want to pay a WR $30M then DK will have to pivot. There is nothing to indicate that he plays worse in colder weather.

I looked thru his game logs and have no idea how you came to this conclusion. Very misleading of you, IMO. For asthma sufferers both dry and cold and hot, humid weather climates(like where he's from in MS) are challenging but easily manageable. The bottom line is that DK lives in LA.......like Josh Allen.........and DK would prefer to live in LA. So he's attempted to narrow his list to the Rams or Chargers. And you know he's NOT getting traded to the Rams. If the Chargers don't want him........and Harbaugh really doesn't value WR's traditionally.......then it's back to the drawing board.

I don't feel that way. The Sabres have just been incompetently managed. Not needing something as rare as an elite QB makes it easier. They've had numerous players who have proven capable of leading teams to Stanley Cup championships and it hasn't mattered. Pegula has been a complete disaster as an NHL owner. He was trending that way as an NFL owner until he turned ops over to football people completely.

Because you don't think that the $100M+ Beane has guaranteed in the last week was done without consulting the boss? My points stand.

Yeah, I am naturally skeptical of sports ownership and said owner's not holding up their end of the bargain by putting the best product on the field they can. And no question in my mind that Terry Pegula has yo-yo'd financially with the Sabres.........but he's also intimately involved in personnel decisions there so it's not necessarily even just a reflection of being cheap. He didn't give Kevyn Adams full control when he hired him. The Pegula's turned over Bills ops entirely to McDermott to get him to sign on the dotted line and I haven't seen any instance that indicates that he's ever told McBeane no on something they wanted to do. I've heard numerous times that Pegula regrets giving up "full" control to McBeane but it sure seems he's been true to his word and allowed them to do as they see fit. And in return they got Terry P a franchise QB, they've won consistently, increased the value of his asset many times over etc.. so he is probably able to overcome any "feels" about lacking control by knowing it's worked. I just don't think it's a given that Beane wants to operate like the Eagles do but I get why fans are trying to put the onus on ownership.

When has Terry Pegula shown ANY unwillingness to spend money on the Bills? There is zero evidence that he ever has. I think we should suspend discussing the notion that he has until the first time he does. McBeane were given full control when they took over so the presumption should be that if they do not make certain moves it's their choice not to........not Terry Pegula's.

The scary thing for the Bengals is Burrow actually played last season in it's entirety. He finished 2 others on the sideline. He's almost due for another injury at his historical rate.

Yeah, it's funny, Bill Barnwell has an article on ESPN about how impressive the cast of available receivers are this offseason and it kinda' feels like none of them really fit the Bills EXCEPT Hollywood Brown........if he's healthy. They lack a deep threat and most of the big names on there are like Cooper. Who is, as Barnwell aptly describes, a 50/50 and back shoulder deep target at this stage of their career. Really weird having like a dozen guys who have put up 1,000 yard season and the class feels weak because of the Bills specific need.

Yeah we are in agreement on that. The variance on what was expected of the Vikings versus what they produced is the greatest example because of the 14 wins. But I think you have to give Mahomes and Allen a different benefit of the doubt. They've rarely missed a game in their careers and they "win" 11 or more every year and win their division. Bills probably should have won the division in 2019 if not for Brady(a seemingly inevitable QB like them). Burrow and Lamar? They have both finished multiple seasons on the sidelines and missed the playoffs multiple times.

If they were a top 5 roster talent team but with just a "good" QB like Kirk Cousins of a couple years ago I would feel like they might have a much wider variance in potential W-L. But with Allen being proven for 5 years and trending up as a leader/winner the past year and a half I agree that 12 seems like a starting number of sorts. Things can always change but I wouldn't bet the under at this point.