BADOLBILZ

If Bills talk IN ANY WAY depresses you.........seek counseling........that's a you problem............it's just entertainment.

I'm not bothering to open those links........I watched most of the Rams games in both years and Goff improved significantly as a thrower of the deep ball last year. Clearly he had worked on it. The Falcons recognized the weakness and employed a "Fitz" defense on him and that was the end of the Rams 2017 season. So it was an absolute necessity to improve in that area. He routinely under threw Watkins in 2017.......the tape don't lie. Your work in this thread has just been bad...........like 3 posts of bad stats that even you had to admit were bogus. Using dumb phrases to make it seem like McBeane's choices weren't actually choices. I literally quoted you word for word and you are telling me you have no idea what I am talking about.

1. Rams couldn't reach a deal in part because they didn't have negotiating leverage on Watkins. Watkins also wasn't thrilled about not getting the ball thrown to him. Goff struggled to throw the ball deep. So McVay played the whole season using Watkins to run Richard Sherman and Jalen Ramsey and Patrick Peterson, Josh Norman etc.. out of the play by running Watkins deep and destroying teams with wide open receivers underneath. When the playoffs came the Falcons took away the underneath and intermediate "Goff" routes. The Rams then tried to use Watkins to run routes they hadn't worked all season to beat the tight coverage and it looked like they'd never played together. Lesson learned for McVay.......you gotta' use everyone during the season even if you are going thru in-season defenses like sh*t thru a goose. But all things being equal Watkins was going to want to go somewhere that the QB could throw the ball deep. Mahomes was a perfect match. 2. They were willing to pay more to Cooks than Sammy because he has been great AND healthy. Nice option to have. One of the flaws of the "parity" encouraging system the NFL has is that teams at the back end of round 1 have a real advantage when trading for star players. Pats did it to get Cooks from New Orleans and the Rams did it the next year to get him. 3. So......you really don't understand this saying. You can't make an omelette without egg........so you gotta' break the egg. There is no other option. That's what the saying means. You CAN win in the NFL without tearing a team down. No option.........option. Get it? 4. Building on talent is not necessarily "going down the old regimes path". Are the Rams still on the Jeff Fisher path because they kept so many players? You are literally just reaching for sayings and cliches that make no sense in this context.

I know you guys don't follow the NFL............but when the Rams couldn't reach a deal with Watkins they traded their first round pick for Brandin Cooks to replace him. I get not being CLOSE followers of the NFL but for fuxake the Rams played in the Super Bowl............did you catch that game? And I don't remember anyone predicting the Rams offense was going to fall apart...........Watkins signing with KC and Cooks being traded to LA happened pretty close together.

People in the Carolina organization were the first to point out that the Bills appeared to have been using their draft board. It's not like that wasn't discussed here. You were probably in those threads then too but don't remember because you tend to create a lot of thoughtless takes.

Why would you think Reid wants that? It might make you.....the outraged observer looking for satisfaction.....feel better, but it's quite possible that he doesn't care about the guy's opinion and doesn't want to even give life to the story. Having to accept an apology for that nonsense only lends some kind of credence to it. And ftr jerks linking Reid's failure to win a SB to issues in his personal life happened in Philadelphia too...........it's an OLD storyline.

? Need to make a lot more plays in backfield and for the DT1T and MLB to be much more efficient against the run.

Nah? Talk about moving the goal posts..........that literally is a response to nothing I said.

No turning necessary.............I've maintained all along that I expect them to have a winning season this year. My issues with McBeane are that I haven't liked a lot of their personnel decisions(mostly on the pro side) and their rationale for making them............and in most of those cases I've been proven right...........and I haven't been impressed with the game day work by McDermott. You just perceive everything as critical because all you really care about are the things I have expressed negativity about. Meanwhile I had Tre White as the top CB in the 2017 draft so I loved that player.............big fan of the Allen pick for MANY reasons...........really liked the Edmunds pick and I really like Ed Oliver.

It's more like the understanding that there are no more excuses. You don't often have two years to establish yourself and then an offseason with no free agents and $80M to spend and high draft picks in each round. That alone is a SET UP for a big turnaround. And as @GunnerBill said there are other aspects in their favor..........the schedule........two teams in their division starting over with new HC's.............this season should definitively answer all or nearly all of the McBeane questions.

I think most people thought of Aaron Donald a lot like Tre White............yeah he's probably going to be productive in the NFL but the ceiling is limited by the lack of one trait...........ignoring the fact that other aspects of their game are elite and that those traits will make them standouts. Clearly those of us who thought Donald was easily the top defender in the draft were right and I would still take White over Lattimore though Lattimore has been everything the Saints could possibly have hoped for.

I'm no fan of that outta' bounds take.............but the mother hens here really need something non-Bills related to cackle their outrage about. ?

Most draftniks had Watson rated ahead of Mahomes. He was also an option and there were mocks that had him in the top 10. Some of us here preferred Mahomes higher ceiling as a passer.........others(like Gunner) preferred Watson overall game..........but both were almost universally considered first rounders and there is no such thing as a QB drafted in round 1 who isn't viewed as a prospective franchise QB. And for the team that gets that franchise QB no player at any other position is worth more...........Both Bosa's aren't worth ANY young franchise QB.............that's why teams trade up to take QB's. And also......ya' know.......the Bills had Tyrod Taylor at quarterback........and we know how much you liked Tyrod but even you have to admit there was room for improvement.

I don't know about "disaster"...........but a -105 point differential typically indicates that you performed more at the level of a 4-5 win team. It wasn't a pretty season.........Josh Allen turning into an unexpected 100 yard rushing force probably skewed the team success but nobody thinks THAT is sustainable or should even be tried again. They probably entered the offseason at a lower point than their 6 wins might indicate.......but it's the NFL.........no reason a 4-6 win team can't turn into an 11-12 win team with a young QB improving and an offseason where they basically lose nobody, sign 18 free agents and draft near the top of each round............they were in a great position to make a big turnaround......we'll see how it goes.

It's good no doubt.......but do you think the Bills were the second best defense in the NFL last year? AHEAD of Baltimore? That Baltimore defense was suffocating. The Bills defense was very good with a long field to defend and not very good in the red zone. To me that indicates a defense that can't get into the backfield when it needs to...........a red flag for a defense that DVOA and yardage say was #2 overall.

People hate change. In their day you played baseball for 2 months then you took two months off and then played football for 2 months etc.. What that yielded was a whole lotta' talented athletes falling thru the cracks. The difference now is that some are lost to burnout from over exposure..........but the net trade-off is worth it.........I am involved in youth sports and the kids are better players and nicer kids than ever. The bad stories about parents aren't anything new.

So you are specifically asking "what if"...........but at the same time you're not? Because you are leaving the "what ifs" to those "others"? You are all sortsa' confused. This message board is specifically for broad discussion like this.........I mean for 4 months the majority of the football offseason revolves around "what if" this player is drafted here or signs there.........and people find it entertaining.

He was absolutely brutal against New England in week 16, IMO. He knocked down a pass to start the game as I recall.......a splashy play which he made a number of during the season...........but then he and Star proceeded to be utterly trampled by the Pats. If you want to find out what you are doing wrong..........play the Patriots........they will find it and show the rest of the league. I am still not sold that he's the second coming of Brian Urlacher because most of the guys who reach that level are really instinctive and good right away and Edmunds was not............but if he ends up outside or as an edge player I still think he could be tremendous there.

Here's A LOT better piece of advice.......and one YOU should definitely heed Ole' Yeller'.....if you don't want to look ignorant like you(especially recently)in this thread then don't create hot takes about subjects that you are unfamiliar with and aren't willing to do any research on. The primary reason my success rate on takes is so high is because I don't have a take on every subject...........these are things Gunner does.........and that is inevitably going to hurt your batting average because no matter how much you put into it.......it is still an inexact science to say the least.

Your viability as some worthy of discussion takes a hit every time you act like your complete lack of knowledge on a subject is irrelevant when you are called on it. Like I said........more thought and research or stay on the porch, ol' yeller'.

So he just got out of the way for the 6 games Brock Osweiler started? Including the win over New England in Denver that gave them the tie-breaker advantage for homefield? Even Manning didn't just play Manning's Indy offense that year............it was a big part of the storyline of that team........winning the opener with Manning playing a WCO then him running his old offense in the 4th quarter the next week to upset KC at Arrowhead............ Dunce-worthy takes from K-9...........nothing new. You are such a poser of NFL knowledge on this board...............have some respect for "the process" of discussion on this board..........less posting and more thought and fact checking would be a start.

I like Beasley but I will be very surprised if he turns into an Edelman type producer as most expect. CB has been around a long time(he's 30) and his numbers don't match name he's built in Dallas or the contract the Bills gave him. Edelman has basically been a 70 yard per game guy in the slot for the last 5 seasons.........Beasley has had ONE season in his career where he's exceeded his 672 yards and 42 ypg of last season. And I think he is more sore at the Cowboys for not paying him than anything right now. He'll get past that........hopefully sooner than later. Since he's fighting with Cowboys fans on twitter hopefully that means he won't be kissing the turf on Thanksgiving and promptly laying an eggy performance the way McCoy did in Philly in 2015.

Gotta' love the experts in here that only have a vague recollection of the SB champion from a few years ago and also don't know how to use a search engine. @K-9 thought Manning was still great that year. How can you be so sure what QB is good enough to win a SB if you don't even follow the league closely enough to remember a few years ago? That's inexcusably ignorant at this depth of discussion.

Dave...........all you EVER talk about is DVOA.......it is a nice stat that puts you in the ball park I believe.........but it's actually not universally accepted as the singular defining stat that you try to make it out to be. Point differential is also a really good stat traditionally..............and that's because scoring is also a very telling stat........particularly on game day. I like my offense to score points and my defense to prevent them.

Fair enough. Peyton Manning got it done twice.........I don't recall him being a favorite of yours.?