BADOLBILZ

Some came around.........and others who vehemently denied the need, like eball and Logic, just totally left or avoid the subject altogether now. We really didn't start hearing the pundits saying the Bills weapons weren't very good until midseason this year.

Tortoise with a HR and 2B in first two at bats. Link to the daily live box score for the team and it's affiliates below and at top of OP' https://www.mlb.com/prospects/stats/affiliates?teamId=147

Yep. There are a lot of people on this board who think Creed Humphrey was a brilliant pick...........I actually think it was sort of an admission by the Chiefs that they didn't think there were many second round values so they took a sure thing at a position they don't really value. The center position has never been easier to play with all these wide set defensive fronts and teams being terrified to blitz. 350# NT's are barely a thing anymore and Humphrey could play with one thumb up hisass on most passing downs and not even have the opportunity to miss a block. I can't see them paying him the All Pro rate to block occasionally on passing downs. But someone will. And the Chiefs will probably plug in a 5th rounder or something and it won't look like a problem unless the LT and G's aren't good.

I agree that they certainly won't take a second or third round center with 2 years left on his deal.......but do you think they are going to pay Humphrey the $20M going rate after the 2024 season?

Yeah I've used the Erik Pears example.........similar 6'8" or so frame.........not very good but a durable player at RT.......but Bills had some other young players(I think Seantrel, Kujo and Hairston) that they wanted to try at RT........so they moved him inside and he was brutal. I think the expectations people have for RT's are very odd. There are only a handful of very good ones. Unless they are basically a LT playing out of position like Lane Johnson they usually don't get extended. Teams with bad RT's can still have good OL's. So why do some people think that it makes sense to use a first round pick on one?

I think center is the least of the worries with Bates in place to succeed Morse when the time comes.........but RT is probably the second least. I figured they would only get about 7 years out of Dawkins at LT because he is such a sloppy bodied player........and they will be lucky to get that one more season out of him. The guard spots are more important than RT and both are in flux..........hopefully they sign a good guard, get a new LT prospect in round 1 and Dawkins can be moved inside and Brown does what all the free agent RT's on the market did(evolve from terrible to solid).

The Bills got the best of him.........the next team can have the rest of him. I don't think the Dolphins are in on that for big money though.........they are up against the cap too. Poyer may not have his choice of destinations if he wants to get paid.

Sounds good in theory but in reality 1st round guards, centers and right tackles aren't good investments in round 1 either. LT's.......yes those are........and they are at the stage with Dion Dawkins where they need to get one in as soon as possible. They need better guard play.........and guards are probably the best value in UFA in most years. Unfortunately Beane has been terrible in free agency in general.

Yeah as I said.......it wasn't even close to a thorough analysis by the OP. What's simple and true is that they have drafted 5 defenders in round 1 and just 1 offensive player. Those are the personnel chips that are most likely to supply you with foundational, 7-10 year players that are cost controlled for half of their career at big dollar positions. (and Diggs, as a hedge, is probably going to give the Bills 4-5 years of elite play at high dollars while Jefferson will likely give Minnesota that 7-10)

Gabe Davis makes contested catches often.

Gleyber Tortoise.......traveling with the rooks and scrubeenies. Replay of game will be on MLB network Saturday night 8pm

The draft value of a 1st round pick is much, much higher than any subsequent rounds. It's value essentially trumps the value of the rest of your picks. So your argument is like saying the Bills emphasize offense as much as defense contractually because they have the same amount of players under contract on both sides of the ball on opening day. It's the value of the investment. And no........Stefon Diggs does not count as a first round pick.........he cost a first round pick+.......but he also cost about $15M aav so he was essentially a hedged bet between a draft pick and free agency. It's like saying Rob Johnson or Drew Bledsoe were first round picks of the Bills...........an argument oft-used by Bills fans who didn't think the Bills should expend first round picks on QB prospects. And I mean your work isn't even close to accurate.........the Bills traded picks to move up for Josh Allen that you didn't account for..........they traded the Sammy Watkins pick in round 2 to move up for Tremaine Edmunds.........they traded their own #3 for Kelvin Benjamin...........it's not a very thorough analysis.

30 years ago when RB's went in round 1 and 240# pass rushing OLB's went in rounds 2-5............Von Miller would have been a RB in college. It's almost inexplicable how Henry ended up at RB........he was big and athletic enough that he was the type who might have been a #1 overall draft pick as a DE...........but instead ended up going round 2 as a RB and TN got one last great season out of him before he got his "big for a RB" deal. He's still super productive as a high volume carry guy.......just not so much on a per carry basis anymore.......but if he were a pass rusher he might still have a new $100M contract in him at this age rather than being seen as nearing the end.

Yeah the issue the Bills have with short term deals for good veteran players is that they can't do much to mitigate the first year cost without leaving them with dead money in the near future. With Edmunds.........they can give him a long term deal and re-structure it over and over again as long as he is playable. The dead money might be as far away as 2028 or 2030. If Edmunds was 29 and looking at $15M aav he'd not be an option for the Bills, IMO.

I'd take it. I think regardless of who the Bills replace Edmunds with they are going to have to make some changes structurally. My opinion of their scheme is that they try to encourage the opponent to run outside. They do that with tighter splits on the DL than I'd like to see. That mutes the pass rush, IMO. I'd like to see them get wider up front and funnel the run to the middle.........which just hasn't been an option with Edmunds because he's not very instinctive and clever run schemers can turn him into a tumbleweed downfield if OL can get their hands on him. Wagner isn't going to discourage the passes over the middle.........but he's more likely to get his hands on one when they do.........and he is a lot more instinctive around the LOS.

Maybe the last couple years. But for most of his career the Packers did what we are now critical of McBeane for...........they used their #1 pick every year on defensive players. The Packers really wasted his prime. By the time they slow built their offense up to snuff and he won those last two MVP's he wasn't the force of nature that he had been in his prime. The reality is that he got old and he has not looked like himself at the end of seasons for many years now. They slow played themselves into a great regular season team by prioritizing defense and slowly developing players around Rodgers on offense. But it was too late. I'd hope the Bills would learn from this. You have to let the draft come to you.........but you also have to find a way to be great around your great QB. If the draft isn't going to yield you studs on offense.......find another way. Trade for them. Sign them in UFA. The Packers did neither. He had a crazy good season for the Rams. The season was over and he was still playing like a man possessed. At some point he has to hit a wall but someone is going to get a helluva leader next season.

I doubt it. Fangraphs has the Yankees as the best team in baseball because they calculate simply by adding up individual talent/depth..........but the issue yet again is that their lineup is SO imbalanced with right handed batters that there becomes a reverse synergy when opponents can just line up their right handed pitching and those guys can just tunnel those sliders etc.. It makes it so easy for the opposing pitchers to get in a groove. The Yankees are talking about moving Judge to LF so Stanton can play RF..........but to what end? So they get Donaldson DH at bats? 😂 Ideally they need the switch hitting Oswaldo Cabrera to step up and play out of his head and earn a starting spot in LF so they AT LEAST have two batters who can swing from the left side against RHP. Should be a big year for left handed bats with the shift being banned.........and the Astros have Alvarez, Tucker and Brantley..........3 tremendous ones........they should run away with the AL.

I think Yolo had said something about it in a prior season.

Got Risner to Bills for 3/$37M more than the predicted same length deals for higher rated guards..........this guy has Beane's spending pattern figured out.

Moulds could drop passes with the best of them in his day.

I think the right tackle people are going to be disappointed. Spencer Brown is on a similar trajectory to players like Mike McGlinchey, Andre Wylie and Kaleb McGary........he's more likely to be extended after next season than not be the starter at this point, IMO. I'm with you on the guards though. Most good OL are built around 3 good blockers.......the LT and the 2 guards. The quality of blocking at RT and C can vary. Most important single player addition is getting a WR1B or very good WR2 type, though. And a "big strong running back" is just a standard, league minimum type addition..........so more of a choice just to do it rather than who.

I have no idea if this dude will be able to field a position(he plays 3B/1B).........but man he hits baseballs hard and far.......struck out only in the low 20% and hit for average too in AA. I think he found some of that David Ortiz juice a couple seasons ago and ever since then he has looked like the next Nelson Cruz. He will either become a good major league hitter or end up in Japan or Korea or something. Should be fun to watch in spring training. hit a long HR in game today:

I agree.........the Chiefs highly value talent at the WR position and yes it shows when they take swings at the Josh Gordon's and John Ross's. But they sorta' set the tone for teams investing massively in receiving targets when they shocked many by paying Sammy Watkins $16M aav to presumably be WR1 all the way back in 2018 when they already had two 1,000+ yard receivers in Hill/Kelce in their primes in their WR corps. I wouldn't be surprised in the least to see the Chiefs go WR in round 1. They probably learned a lesson passing on Tee Higgins in favor of a perceived "needier" position at RB. If teams can't stop you from passing the ball........they can't stop you at all. So it's easy to justify keeping the cupboard full at WR, IMO. If somehow healthy "Slant Mike" would give them a potentially elite slot WR option. I've mentioned it before but I seem to remember him having a Bills connection somehow.........like he grew up a Bills fan or something.

Definitely a very strange choice to train with. Moulds was never much of a technician and he put on too much muscle and lost a lot of speed and quickness soon after his incredible 1998 season. And it's a very different game today than in Moulds prime. The stud RB type talents of Moulds day now play in the secondary in the NFL........so there is just a lot more talent at CB(no Chris Watson's to kick around) so it's really apples and oranges in coverage to compare era's. You gotta' be able to get open in todays NFL. That certainly wasn't Moulds thing.

Better yet, release Hines.........and ultimately employ Diggs in the slot. Flip the script from patching a hole to making the position the strength of your passing game. The last two SB winners put their best receiving talent in the slot..........that isn't a long trend but it makes a lot of sense........there are more free releases inside and a quick option for your QB who is also elite is great for keeping that QB on schedule, efficient and healthy.