IronyAbounds

It wasn't Levy, it was Jim Kelly who went to the pass rather than the run, or so says one of the O lineman from that team, who shall remain nameless.

Great if she's good at the job, and I couldn't care less about her gender, my only concern is that with so many ex-Jets players and coaches, why should Bills' fans expect the Bills to be any better than the Jets the last four years of Rex's reign.

I'd love to be able to spend half the year in Buffalo. Even though I only lived there my first 8-1/2 years I still have relatives living there and feel a strong bond to the city. Anyone remember Jet Doughnuts?

I certainly hope you're right, however, if there is no public money for the stadium, I don't think it gets built, and the NFL will be pressuring the Pegulas to move since The Ralph will be deemed inadequate for the plutocrats who run the league.

Ding Ding Ding Ding, we have a winner here. The team's personnel fit a 4-3 defense to a tee, and could have done the same this year.

The NFL's greed and indifference to fans other than the super rich is just disgusting. Wait and see what happens if Buffalo and the State of New York aren't willing to cough up big bucks for a new stadium. It will be the London Bills, the Mexico City Bills, the Las Vegas Bills or the San Antonio Bills once the onerous prohibitions against moving expire in the current lease.

If this thread constitutes an ugly discussion, I only wonder how to characterize the heated discussions that take place on the web concerning Trump, Obama, Clinton, Cruz etc. I mean, nobody has called Rex a commie Kenyan muslim.

pretty much summarizes my opinion, although I think 4-12 is a tad pessimistic. I think the team is talented enough to get at least 7 wins, although the schedule, to the extent that this year's results are indicative, will be tougher than this year's.

Any time you question any decision about a coaching hire, a play call, a draft pick, etc., you are asserting that you know better regarding that particular hire, play, draft pick than the person(s) whose made the decision. Using your argument, you should never question a draft pick because you do not have all the information needed to make that pick. And yet you have, I have, virtually everyone on this board has questioned those types of decision. You constantly have offered your opinion that the Bills need to get Taylor out of the pocket more. Are you saying in that case you did in fact have all the information needed to make that decision? Frankly, only a lobotomized fan would just nod and agree with everything their team does without question simply because they aren't an NFL executive. It's the nature of being a fan. And I don't think it is necessary to be an NFL Executive to conclude that Rob Ryan likely wouldn't have been hired by another NFL team as "Assistant Head Coach/Defense" unless his brother happened to be the Head Coach, which makes the hire suspect in the extreme.

Have you never questioned a team's draft pick? Or coaching hire? Or a coach's decision? When a team hires the coaches brother after the brother has completely flamed out in all of his latest three or four coaching gigs, I don't think its a stretch to question that decision, and in fact I think it's odd to simply say "well they must know what they are doing since they are in the NFL and all the fans are not" which in essence is what you are saying. I stand by my assertion that Rob's hiring could strain the coaching relationships among the Bills' defensive coaches. I may not be an NFL executive, but I have observed interactions among teams of people for many years. I genuinely hope I'm wrong about this hire and about Rex being a complete blowhard incompetent when it comes to being head coach. I desperately want the Bills to succeed again, sooner rather than later, and I'd love nothing more than to eat a bucket full of fried crow after the Bills are successful under Rex. Just not expecting it to happen.

Two Asshats instead of one. Yeah, that's the ticket. Another point, however, is that whatever his title and whatever his role, Rob's presence will be looming over Thurman and the rest of the defensive coaches and can very easily create a lack of trust between Rex and the other coaches (e.g., the other coaches constantly worrying about Rob encroaching on their responsibilities or talking behind their backs to Rex). This is just another appalling move by Rex, and one that should have been nipped in the bud by the Pegulas. Unfortunately I do think they are over their heads in terms of running a football business.

In no way can a win after a team is eliminated from playoff consideration be considered a great win. A good effort, perhaps, a satisfying win, if you dig being a spoiler, but a great win? Simply not the case.

Just goes to show that the front office remains inept. Rob Ryan's defenses have been terrible as have the teams he has coached for. If this doesn't convince everyone that Rex Ryan is a con artist of the highest order then nothing will.

So an OC with a team that leads the league, or is close to the league lead in 3 and outs is the Coordinator of the Year? Wow.

Hmmmm, listening to the clips from Rex and somehow all I hear is BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH. Yes Rex, we know you want to win for the community. How about extracting your head from your ass and actually do it instead of talking about it. As we learned from all your blather this year, words are cheap you asshat.

That pretty much sums it up for me. I don't want NE to win, other than that I have about as much interest in the NFL playoffs as I do the WNBA playoffs.

People seem to be in agreement that Mario's saved cap money, and that of a few other of the Bills' B list players (excluding EJ since cutting him saves $0) will be used to resign Glenn and Incognito and pick up a few B list players from other teams. What baffles me is that people think that tinkering with this roster with a few B list players is suddenly going to transform this team into a playoff team. Perhaps on a planet where Rex Ryan is suddenly transformed from a blowhard buffoon into a competent head coach, but not on Planet Earth. The Bills are going to need more than just a few B list replacements for their B list cuts to make the playoffs. Perhaps the money spent on McCoy wouldn't accomplish that, but it would help a little. If Dareus doesn't revert to prime form next year the big hurt will be the cap hit he causes. Frankly, as long as the Bills are stuck with Ryan, it's just shuffling the deck chairs on the Titanic.

Odd that the 2 seeds both seem to have the easiest road to the Super Bowl. Also odd that Minnesota screwed itself by winning. It's a pisser that the team with the best chance of knocking off New England (Pittsburgh) is on the other side of the bracket, but in reality, given the injuries to NE and most of the other teams' QBs, the AFC really looks extremely average this year. In any event, until the Bills are involved in the playoffs, I could not care less. Just going to have to double up on the good luck charms for next year I guess. Surely the drought can't last 17 years can it? Sigh.

My thoughts exactly, although you're a bit easy on the Asshat head coach.

For the most part, the people who buy sports franchise are just insanely rich people who have the money it takes to buy the team, but they almost always earned their money in other types of businesses. A sports franchise is not just another business and success in one area of business does not necessarily translate into success in the sports business. Also, given the NFL's socialist system, even crappy teams like the Bills make money, so while the team may be unsuccessful on the field they are likely still making money or appreciating in value, or both. Sports franchises are mostly toys for their ultra rich owners. The best sports franchise owners are the ones who buy the team, hire good personnel to run it and just sit back and watch the money roll in. If the Pegulas depended the opinions of Brandon and/or Whaley to hire Rex, then the stupid hiring is not their fault, although they should look at is as an indication of the quality of management that Brandon and/or Whaley bring to the table. I can understand the Pegulas getting conned by Ryan, but it is unforgiveable if Brandon did.

Thus sayeth the Ravens and the Rams, two teams with a combined record of 12-18. Perhaps the Rams should petition the NFL to take the Seahawks place in the playoffs. Sometimes teams just matchup against another team and can beat them. Head to head record only counts in tie-breakers. Any sensible person would judge the Jets as a better team than the Bills this year no matter what happens Sunday.

Hence the origins of this thread. Only in the Homer Universe would you find people who think that Rex is anything other than a lousy head coach, or that Rex's departure from the Jets wasn't beneficial to the Jets, or that the 10-5 Jets are somehow equal to or worse than the 7-8 Buffalo Bills, or that the two games against different opponents make all the difference between the two teams' years. In these people's minds Rex is an upper level head coach and the Bills are a playoff team that only missed the playoffs because of their schedule and injuries. Never mind that the Bills could only muster a 4-4 record against the two worst divisions in football (with losses to Jacksonville on a neutral field and an Eagles team in disarray), or that they pissed away the KC game, had to struggle to beat a horrendous Titans team, lead the league in penalties, have seen their defense go from elite to porous, lead the league in 3 and outs, and only beat the Jets the first time by 5 points despite winning the turnover battle 4-0.

So the Ravens are better than the Steelers? The Rams better than the Seahawks? Injuries no doubt hampered the Bills, but post-bye up until the Dallas game the teams was, relatively speaking, healthy given the natural attrition attendant to the NFL. Prior to the Dallas game, the Bills were 3-4 post-bye. Hard to pin it all on injuries. As for Rex, two things: 1. The thought that Rex "REALLY wanted to be part of this team and community" is just nonsense. That was all Rex's con job on the Pegulas and the Bills' fans. Fraud in the inducement. What he REALLY wanted a was a job since he had be unceremoniously been fired by the team that is on the cusp of a playoff bid this year. 2. The thought that Rex as a first year coach needed to have a year to get his system in place is also nonsense. He had the personnel to run a quality defense using the scheme that was already in place. Rex said, again as part of his con job, that he wouldn't impose his system on the personnel if it wasn't the right thing to do. Yet he did from the get go and ruined the defense. He flat out lied. He is just a blowhard jerk who talks a good game but is incompetent as a head coach.

It is the motivating factor for the Bills, which is exactly why it is so pathetic. 16 years without the playoffs, but we get to play spoiler and beat Rex's old team (which has improved this year without Rex while the Bills have regressed with him) - Yippeeee!!!!!!!!!!