starrymessenger

If he falls to the Patriots he will buck the trend (and we will ive to regret it). I would not be too sure about Holmgren's intentions either. Its that time of year you know. As for the risks to a franchise, don't you think the Rams are taking on a @#$%load of risk if they do as expected and draft Bradford? Can they (or Detroit last year, or any team for that matter) afford to drop $80MM on a dud QB? You do it in spite of the risks because you need a franchise QB to win in this league. You might say trying to compete in this league is risky - but what choice do you have? You have none. If the tackles are gone and Clausen is there odds are they will take him because he is your best and most probable opportunity to draft a franchise QB.

I suggest you not try too hard. You may give yourself a headache or become disoriented perhaps. But let me see if I can help you. There are two reasons why you should stop trying to figure it out. Firstly, if I truly know for a fact that JC is 17 years old in that picture there is no way for you to know why or how I know that. Secondly, I may not know for a fact that he is 17 years old in that picture, which by the way happens to be the case. This is yet another reason why you will never figure out how I know he is 17 years old in the picture. I visit a lot of message boards and by now I must have seen this picture, and associated negative commentary, 100 times. I have by the way seen the reference to his age in the pic as 17 more than once. Not that the precise number 17 means much to me, but it does seem about right and more importantly illustrates that Clausen and his buddies were just young kids horsing around when the picture was taken. So what is the relevance you say? Well the pic seems to have been relevant to the many who have circulated it with ridicule and serious pejorative comment. Maybe your point is that I should not assert a fact based on hearsay, in which case I would say you are a hard task master, professor. Now if you still don't get it there is nothing more I can do for you. Adios.

Yeah except a smaller one. Where do you think the guy on the left has been sticking his nose. And is that a bullseye on the back of his bathing suit?

Buddy won't be doing that is my guess. Doesn't look the type.

I don't care if hes the friggin Marquis de Sade as long as he can play, which I think he can. Seriously, he was 17 years old when this pic was taken. Like all of the character related red flags, there is nothing there. That guy to the left really is disgusting though.

Who was it that drafted him (or Heyward-Bey ahead of Michael Crabtree)? Oh yes. Well at least it wasn't us.

John you are right about Clausen. The problem is that they are going to draft Tebow instead just to prove that they are dummer than Jacksonville and so that Chan can run his pistol pete offense. God help us.

Wish I knew what those questions are. If all we are talking about are the personality issues, personally I would discount them because none of the claims have been positively substantiated (the clearest indication that they are not true). In terms of his physical skills, what is lacking?

No one has any idea? Disagree. It is clearly not a pure crapshoot. It is a science and due diligence exercise. Brady, Rommo and Warner are clear exceptions. Not to say that picking a college QB is without risk, as we all know it is risky. But someone was always right. There were plenty of pundits who favoured Manning over Leaf.

Agree about the need for scepticism at this time. But do you agree that teams still find ways to telegraph misinformation. If so, seems strange if anyone with a brain in his head is only going to act on the basis of what they actually do rather than what they say or imply. I mean why bother.

My feelings exactly, which is one reason I want Clausen and not Tebow.

Certainly those are the vibes currently, possibly emanating from OBD. Not very helpful, but either it is true or it is orchestrated.

Have no problem introducing a little "imagination" into the standard pro offence. Finns and Sparano too used the wildcat to advantage. Problem is NFL defences adjust to it and, frankly, the crux of it is that I don't think Tim Tebow is a good candidate to execute a diversified pro offence even within a "system". In other words, as Trestman himself has said, right now at the NFL level TT is system constrained. To me that clearly rules him out as a first round pick.

Marshawn and Tim Tebow. Hmmmm...a clash of cultural opposites if ever there was one. Don't get me wrong. I have a lot of time for Tebow, who is one of the greatest college players of all time, has off the charts intangibles and is just a first rate quality individual. Don't like him at #9 and don't necessarily like him at the QB position. If as a QB his "system" options are limited (and even Trestman, who is in his camp, has said so) it will only be a matter of time (not long) before NFL defenses figure out how to shut him, and the Bills offence, down. I know that not everyone agrees, but I am with those who see Claussen as a bona fide franchise QB, and that obviously influences my opinion of what we should do if he is there at #9.

And that is exactly why Tim Tebow has gone from a third round pick at best three weeks ago to a potential first round pick in the view of many qualified commentators. The expectations re Chan's offence is what is driving this, together with the need to sell tickets in Jacksonville. If Claussen and Tebow are both there at #9, picking Tebow would not be taking the best player available (even at the position) and would be a monumental error IMO. Worst case: we draft Tebow to suit Chan and Claussen falls to .....The New England Patriots. We would be kicking ourselves for another 10-12 years.

That is precisely my fear (though it must be a smokescreen - they can't be that stupid, can they?).

He he, love it.

Three weeks ago commentators were saying Tebow was a third rounder as a QB at best. Now all of a sudden the idea of Tebow going in the first round has gained a lot of momentum. Why? Because Marc Trestman said that in a specifically tailored offence Tebow could be a successful NFL QB? Do Chan and Buddy realize that there is more to football than the SEC? Is Chan getting ready to inflict a college style offence on us?

Thats the point. He has always shown significant year over year improvement. Not a one year wonder, as Buddy would say. He will continue to improve at the next level IMO. He has attitude and an outstanding skillset. He has had the benefit of outstanding grooming (former Patriot Charlie Weiss) in a pro-style offence. He may be better than Bradford, or may have more success in any event if he falls to the NEW ENGLAND PATRIOTS (in which case I guarantee that we will all be kicking ourselves for another ten or twelve years). The word (Nevergiveup) is that the Bills don't like him at #9. There is some plausibility to this because Chan favours a mobile QB who can be a threat to run if he needs to. This is not Claussen (more like Campbell, an SEC product). My only hope is that this is a smokescreen and that behind closed doors Nix and Gailey are geting ready to pounce if he is there at #9. M worst case scenario: We draft Tebow at 9 (another SEC player) and the Pats draft Claussen.

They will not take a QB because they need OTs (Okung).

So was the Trojan Horse. Just sayin.

...and if the Redskins pass on Claussen...

The iconic standing buffalo is one of the coolest logos in all of sport. Can't imagine why it was ever shelved.

Like it or not, if the Redskins pass on him, he will very likely be a Bill.

Just my opinion but I see him going no later than the third. He will be everything the Bills always hoped Roscoe could be.