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Do a little homework bro...Arming Israel to attack Iran and overthrowing the regime there is exactly what Cotton has professed what should be done. How - how - do you link anything I have said with hating Jews? I am non religious and frankly can't understand pretty much anything concerning religion... Again - we would want to invade/overthrow Iran because of a hot air threat - or is there another reason? I criticize the GOP because I used to be consistently Republican - and now I - for the life of me do not understand or agree with much of what they do. I am what you might call a swing voter - you know - someone the GOP needs to win a Presidential election....
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I voted for Gary Johnson. Wait - We are going to "give" them nukes? Pretty sure what is being talked about is them not getting nukes....but carry on... What was "liberal" in my post? This letter is so stupid on so many counts: 1. A treaty is not what is being negotiated - it is an international arrangement signed by 6 countries - so no Mr Cotton - it does not go to the Senate. Congress has a say on the sanctions - but they are but one component - a small one. 2. So what - it is easier and more pragmatic to talk to the Ayatollah? You do realize that Mr Cotton - whelp maybe this is why you like him - simply wants to arm Israel to the hilt and have them attack Iran and or have the US invade/ do whatever to "bring down" the regime in Iron - then what - didn't we do that 60 years ago? Again - I ask - what has Iran done that warrants an invasion - tell me its more than an ex leader's comments about Israel....i know that those words must be actionable - I mean a leader must always say what he is actually going to do right and why would Iran be wary of us....in the words of our Armed Services Committee leader...."bomb bomb bomb, bomb, bomb Iran"... Why did the GOP get so stupid?
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Ahhh, the well thought out, nuanced response from the right. You guys ever give two seconds to why Iran is where they are? Could it be that in the 50's when Iran was one of the most modern open ME countries - we - the exceptional USA overthrew a democratically elected government and installed the Shah - who was our puppet. I can't believe they don't like us....sheesh they want nuclear warheads - why would that be? Could it be we invaded - on BS information - the countries that surround them? Other than the hostages - which were returned unharmed - someone tell me what Iran has done to the US? Yes FU Iran....
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Poll: Fox News most trusted network
TH3 replied to \GoBillsInDallas/'s topic in Politics, Polls, and Pundits
Yes! As many as 1 in 5 think of Fox as reliable! Tallest midget.... -
Global warming err Climate change HOAX
TH3 replied to Very wide right's topic in Politics, Polls, and Pundits
Here what kills me about the "skeptics" - its just that you are so inconsistent and hypocritical: You say GW is a hoax - but then say it is happening - its just not man... You say it is happening - well something is happening - but no one can predict. You say you are conservative - but you seem willing to roll the dice with the next generation because - "we can't predict" - but we know we are changing the climate but since we can't predict what will happen - whelp - hey it might be better - or it might be happening because.... You say weather doesn't equal climate change - but then you repeatedly talk of localized weather like Boston....or throw a snowball in the halls of congress.. You say the scientists are bought off - but then quote your own bought off sources... Just in a long line....tax cuts pay for themselves, we will be seen as liberators, there are WMD's, deficits don't matter, the world is 6000 years old, evolution didn't happen, the president hates the US, cigarettes are not a problem - along with lead in gas, lead in paint, ozone, DDT, gerrymandering, citizens united, same sex marriage, BO was born in Kenya, voter ID, writing letters to Iran, we should have two unfunded wars in the ME, let's shutdown the government, lets defund the DHS, woman don't get pregnant when raped, let's have useless votes to repeal the ACA, lets take the ACA to the SC with no alternative... Why did the GOP get so stupid and hypocritical? -
The sad part is....the GOP /TP are going to have a difficult time putting a candidate and platform together to beat such a flawed candidate like HC
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So - there appears to be absolutely no support for a large military effort in the ME - whether it is the GOP, the DEM or the general public...
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Is there a progress update on the war/$ authorization legislation to fight ISIS that the white house has sent the GOP led congress?
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Pegs obviously gave te boys the keys to his Cassel!
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Ok Can Some of You Finally Admit........
TH3 replied to Chef Jim's topic in Politics, Polls, and Pundits
No kidding....we should look to defund the DHS.... -
Bills to trade Kiko Alonso for LeSean McCoy
TH3 replied to CNY315's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
As someone who has had 2 ACL reconstructs... They are never the same -
The Dysfunctional GOP Congress
TH3 replied to Trump_is_Mentally_fit's topic in Politics, Polls, and Pundits
I am not whining about the GOP holding up bills - where did I say that? BTW I try not to read links from blatantly slated sites - from either side - I tend to see them as a waste of time as they are totally predictable. Ok - where are the GOP initiatives to reduce the size of government - REAL initiatives - not empty statements. Reducing the cost of government will require reduction in 3 things: SS, Defense and Health Care - I have not seen the GOP enact genuine efforts to reduce any of these three - which would lead to balancing the budget - how to you level reducing the cost of government and having a strong defense - and as well more involvement in the ME? AFA Obama getting things done. From day one the GOP said it would do its level best to make sure he failed. You talk of "via cooperation, compromise and positive rhetoric" but the GOP/TP fails to meet any of these elements you set for behavior. I spoke with a friend concerning the Clinton years. Those years were productive because newt was willing to work with Clinton and visa versa. There is no way no how that the GOP/TP House will compromise with BO on anything - they won't even open a dialogue with him - that is their stated tact. Newt come into office and swept the election because he had a stated goal to get legislation passed - which he mapped out prior to the election - remember the "100 days" pact? This GOP congress swept into majority on gerrymandered districts and the stated belief of a hate for BO - THAT'S the difference between the 1990's GOP and today's. Why are you so worried about who I voted for? Standard litmus test? Someone who doesn't share the same vitriol for BO gotta be a liberal lefty correct? -
The Dysfunctional GOP Congress
TH3 replied to Trump_is_Mentally_fit's topic in Politics, Polls, and Pundits
I am blaming and whining .... Huh? I am looking for some substance in the GOP or TP.....I thought you could provide some direction....seriously. What is their vision for the country and how do they want to get there.....tell me there is more than holding up funding bills.....somewhere... -
The Dysfunctional GOP Congress
TH3 replied to Trump_is_Mentally_fit's topic in Politics, Polls, and Pundits
Help me here LA http://www.teaparty-platform.com/ Where in this platform does it say anything about playing political games with funding DHS and shutting down the government? Where are the proposals, the bills, the debate? Why are they not acting on any of this noble platform? -
The Dysfunctional GOP Congress
TH3 replied to Trump_is_Mentally_fit's topic in Politics, Polls, and Pundits
Posting links from ones favorite far right far left webnews sites is so fruitfull and enlightening! My question is: what are the current GOP visions for immigration reform, tax reform, education reform etc...Do they have them...where are they? do theyhave a plan to compose them, develop legislation, put it before the public...you know lead....lead like you know what want to do and you are going there..... Or are they just full of political games...are they any adults over there? Spare me the finger pointing at the Dems....if you are a GOP TP...where Is your platform? Ipad -
Federal Gov Threatens Mayor for Enacting Laws Voted in
TH3 replied to Dorkington's topic in Politics, Polls, and Pundits
The Feds saw what AZ was doing as uncontitional.and the courts agreed. The Feds are not the plaintiff in same sex marriage cases. -
Wouldn't a real party like the GOP have a viable alternate plan developed, put in the spotlight of the public to generate support, put it on the floor for debate, vote on it and send it to the Whitehouse? Why doesn't he call? The GOP has NO designs to do anything about immigration - in fact the GOP has no designs to do anything that involves collaboration with BO - after all he is "not their President"....remember? Still waiting for Congress to act on POTUS request for approval and financing to fight ISIS...it is a threat to the Republic and world stability....!
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Let's See How Many Liberals Can Dispute Any Of This.
TH3 replied to 3rdnlng's topic in Politics, Polls, and Pundits
The problem with this email is that it is completely representative of the TP/Con/RWGOP. It is full of idealistic talk, based on fear and mostly not true. 1. I don't think you know what liberal means. The US is the most liberal country in the world. We have the most liberal policies on guns, religious association, press, free speech...as a previous poster said - get it right - you mean leftist. 2. Illegal immigrants do not get social services SS, welfare, food stamps - per welfare reform in the 1990's you have to have proof of citizenship to get those - but hey your email says its true. But when they work and live they pay ALL ranges of taxes - so show us where you get they are a net negative. 3. Who - in this country- en mass - is pointing to the economic policies of other countries? I DO point to the health care systems...we get our ARSE kicked in health care - we pay twice as much and we burden our employers with provision. By having our employer provide health care we increase the cost of all exports and provide imports with a huge price advantage since they do not have HC built into their costs. 4. What is with the gun community? I get part of gun ownership is being against the government - but gun ownership rights have hardly been threatened - but apparently its more fun to think they are. 5, Your email rails on elected officials - but now they are for the most part GOP - so again - your email is wrong. 6. What leftists (you are now getting something right) are saying the poor are getting poorer? This is called hearsay and you know where that goes in court... So your email has pretty much be dismantled - full of fear and divisiveness - you asked to have the email critiqued. I am sure you will think I am some leftist mouth breathing liberal....I am not - I am for the truth.... -
Let's See How Many Liberals Can Dispute Any Of This.
TH3 replied to 3rdnlng's topic in Politics, Polls, and Pundits
I will give it a shot: 1. The US has some of the most LIBERAL gun ownership laws in the world. I see you are enjoying this aspect of our liberal country. 2. What is your definition of subsidized? I would say that 100 percent of the US enjoys some level of subsidy. Much of the 47 percent is SS which people have paid into - as well as Medicare and Medicaid. As well much of the 47 is EITC which is a conservative favorite. 3. Where are all the people saying they are victims? Pointing to other countries? It appears to me that the most vociferous complainers are actually tea party/conservatives - you guys howl all the time - in fact this list is one long complaint. 4. Pretty sure the poor are not getting poorer - in fact they aren't. 5. We could learn some things from other countries - we hardly lead the league in every category - in fact we lead in very few - except incarceration... 6. I think the gun owners/Islam aspect is actually pretty good. We all seem frustrated by the lack of backlash by the Muslim community to the atrocities of a few - I think many non gun owners look the same way at the NRA...when the horrible gun incidents happen - the NRA seems to offer no relevant help to stopping them in the future (that makes any sort of sense that is). 7. Illegal immigrants do not get benefits (SS, Food Stamps, Welfare) - children do though. They do pay all levels of taxes though. AFA cutting benefits to Vets...your GOP congress blocks most pushes for increased benefits to our Vets. 8. The congress is GOP, most governors offices and state houses are GOP - so not sure what elected officials you speak of. Seems like you didn't get much.... 2008 called and wants its viral email back! -
Maybe our difference is this: why bother looking for BO to lead. He has not yet. I look for the GOP for vision and they have come up small for years now. Immigration - no plan. Tax reform - nothing. Foreign policy - too scared. The GOP has congress in control and what have they done other than vote to overturn the ACA, and complain about BO. Talk about leading....the big problem I see is this lack of direction could very well mean 8 years of Hillary.
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I still have no idea what "progressive" means. You seem obsessed with Obama - so much so you seem unable to unable to form your own proposal - pretty much like congress. POTUS is supposed to protect the US - our homeland has not been attacked or threatened in his presidency. No one is for the murders of anyone - people are murdered all day every day - the question is - where do you draw the line? So 20-50-100 people have been horrifically murdered - These murders are not a threat to the US - so do we put in harms way tens of thousands of our young men, hundreds of billions of dollars and the aftereffects of debt and the burden these soldiers come home with - as well as the casualties that we will incur that probably outnumber these murders? BTW - Didn't vote for BO, don't think he is a very good president, he ran on platform on getting out of the ME, got elected, and pulled out - which is what the clear majority of the US wanted. I just wonder where the GOP is on any of this....They are hiding under a rock because there is no good answer. All the GOP candidates refuse to address this subject. I can predict that the GOP will not even bring to the floor the ISIS authorization bill.
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You are mighty quick to label me - what have I said that identifies me as a "progressive" - I don't know what that even means. You "conservatives" on this board seem mighty quick to liberally use our military and mold the rest the world into our vision of conduct - but on the other hand you seethe when this happens in our own borders....so which is it? Has anyone on this board served in the military over there? I would consider actions in the ME if I saw them as having a chance to succeed. I don't. I have been to the ME a handful of times on business and the hatred these people have for each other is palpable - bear in mind that is a purely anecdotal observation. Parts of various religious sects and countries literally want to just kill each other. It appears that the only way to run a country like Iran is the manner in SH did - with an iron fist. We speak of the thousands that died under his rule - but what has happened in his void. The only way to avoid the horror of what is happening there is a generational military presence - the countries and people there are not motivated to work together to stop ISIS. This military presence would cost trillions - who is going to have the temerity to propose such and action AND ask the taxpayers to pay for it. Again - this would be a go alone event - the world has not shown motivation to assemble such an effort let alone the countries in the ME. Someone asked me: - The US is energy positive at $100 per barrel - US corporate values and assets are now more than our entire economy - that has never happened - ISIS massing at our border? Pretty sure they are not. Are they planning something like 9-11 - probably - them and Al Qaida too - I am also quite positive that the DHS. CIA, FBI, and our military have mobilized to monitor, seek, look for, investigate etc. planning for such and destroy these efforts in an ongoing manner - that is the threat ISIS poses - and from what I see - we have been successful at defending ourselves. You guys seem disappointed by the current state of affairs. BO has sent congress an authorization bill for further military action in the ME and as it pertains to ISIS. Has congress done anything with it? Have the compassionate conservatives reviewed this and either added to it or clarified what they would do, write a bill, and pass it? Nope - because they are all paper tigers - full of blow - but simply to small to actually do something.