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1. What did the GOP say they were going to do? -Or more importantly why do people believe candidates who say things that are never going happen because they are completely impossible - and these voters become alienated and disillusioned when they don't happen and then double down and back even more radical candidates with even more preposterous claims about what they are going to do.... 2. You seem smart: I think you need to check the weight of variables....the examples you give - while they may exist - have essentially no real bearing on the economy - or for that matter - peoples lives...Federal Spending is pretty much at the same levels it has been for decades - Federal Revenue is at historical lows - so that tax burden placed on people - is also LOW....The primary things affecting the general populace are the rising cost of healthcare and the lack of growth of middle class wages.... Be nice to see adjustments to rectify those variables...

Well. The title of the thread mentions that GW is a hoax....just trying to understand what we are arguing about....Iguess its the hoax that wealth is being redistributed by Hillsry...You might want to look up some stats...wealth has been tremendously redistributed in the last 30 years of trickle down economics....all the wealth that has been created has distributed its way to the few..but the posters here think its the dems that are pinching their wallet and future...

So its not a hoax?

Yes - Peaked in 2000 - Clintonanomics....right....or maybe the peak of the baby boomers..... Now pretty much historical norm.....

People with money creates demand.... Right now in the industrialized nations we have a lot of rich people with money who have bought all they can and a huge middle class who have not seen their pay go up in 30 years - and as well - globally - half the population of the earth with less wealth that - what - the top 80 people.....pretty sure if that wealth was more evenly distributed the worlds economy would take off....

Because 1 person laughing at this circle jerk is too much

Actually he has created a great model for low income housing in Burlington VT The White House needs pragmatism, "something Sanders lacks" Huh? I would say he is the one guy with actual pragmatism - once you put away your one liners. Single payer HC is the future for so many reasons - like - good for business, risk pooling, elimination of insurance model to health model...I just hope it happens in my lifetime. Free College? - Go to other counties - they have it...graduating kids with mortgages is not very pragmatic to growing your economy... But meanwhile we get: - Build a wall - Deport 12 million - Stop the gay marriage - Flat tax

So you want to pay more tax?

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What exactly are you angry about - I just don't get it - please be specific how your life has changed and what policy effected that change? Has your HC changed significantly since the ACA? Have the gays ruined your marriage? Someone take your guns? Isis threatening the stability of the republic? Immigrants threatening your ability to get off your a$$ and get rich? Someone say Happy Holidays? Has the rampant growth of unions threatened your job? Have the lowest federal tax rates in modern times (save for Bush years) ruined your bank account? Sick of clean air and water? Sick of cheap fuel? Sick of clean food? Sick of cars that get good gas mileage and performance?

"Only 2 percent of respondents said they were "very satisfied," while 26 percent are "somewhat satisfied." Wonder who those 2 percent are.....

Flat tax - comical. I am guessing most everyone here on this board would pay more in taxes and the very wealthy would pay less....of course you would have more skin in the game...so there is that. The rich and corporations have so much skin in the in fact - that they pretty much write all the legislation that goes through our state and federal governments. A flat tax that would be revenue neutral - or seemingly balance the budget - would crush the economy. Flat taxes simply don't work - wonder why rich republicans always come up with that idea....

What would you give the GOP Congress?

Umm the student loan debt is secured by you D00D...it is facilitated by banks but is "secured" by the good ole US of A... since it can't be eliminated by bankruptcy...its going to get repaid...

I voted for gary johnson. I did not vote for BO in 2012 because I thought the ACA was a giveaway to the insurance and pharm industry and while it fixed sometings, did nothing to control costs. I also thought that BO was like clinton - overwhelmed in his first term. i think he has done some positive things in the last 3 years and the American economy has shown that given stability, it will flourish. I did not vote for Mitt because I thought he sold out to the far right. Shame...because he is a true fixer and we could have used his skill set. Yes my throwaway is that the GOP has got nothing to offer...which is an actual and debateable point....held by more than me....whereas the throwaway for most here is....Obama sucks...Back to my question before you post more BO sucks links.... If the Gop were in charge what would be different/better/ and why......or do you guys have......nothing?

What is your point? i did not vote for him in 2012...so I dont have a Pro Obama agenda...but personally my family's economic situation is the best its ever been...he has kept us out of the mess in the ME...The US economy is doing the best in the world....our health care costs still suck...but that will take a bipartison effort which the GOP is not interested in.. I personally get a kick out of the GOP senator quotes...they want BO to work with them.... if the GOP were in charge what would be better right now and how?

Not really....he actually doesn't say much

Most people want loopholes closed and most people think GW is a problem

The Hammonds Are Not Interested In Violence. Ammon Bundy, son of Nevada rancher Cliven Bundy, who was involved in a similar dispute with the BLM in 2014, headed up to Oregon with armed citizens to take over an empty facility at the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge. They left a peaceful protest in order to do so The media have chosen to focus on the Bundy move because it’s more spectacular in terms of the headlines. But the Hammonds’ story is a pure example of what an insanely powerful, unelected bureaucracy can achieve when it goes unchecked. And there’s no question that as the government expands, conflagrations like the Hammonds/Bundys will become more and more common. http://www.dailywire.com/news/2303/here-are-five-reasons-you-should-side-hammond-ben-shapiro Or not so much http://theconcourse.deadspin.com/those-jamokes-in-oregon-arent-terrorists-theyre-jamoke-1750918911

And the right's - come on - you seem pretty smart

Nature's narrative continues...2015 warmest in industrial age...the thing about the truth....its always true

Number of time a "conservative" went there......? Number of times "conservatives" use the extremely high rate of gun violence in Chicago as some sort of pro second amendment crutch........

You win the leap of the day!

Way to be stand up and responsible...apparently the libertarian philosophy is "not my problem bro..." you are truly a credit to your country and a solid example of the TP...