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I've waited before wading in these waters and will probably regret it.... There are many racist people in America and among Bills fans. I am glad so many here aren't racist but let's not pretend just because it isn't your reasoning doesn't mean it isn't anyone's reasoning. I agree with McFly that many people are so burnt out from losing that any QB would take the wrath. However the vitriol extended to TT is a bit over the top imo. I won't say it is because of his race but I have several times thought to myself that TT doesn't look like what many people want their qb to look like and that is their problem with him. Many people think only a traditional pocket passer can win in the league. TT relies on athleticism to supplement his passing skills which are lacking. If he didn't have those athletic skills he wouldn't be in the league. However he does possess those skills and he is in the league and is a middle of the road starter. He isn't a back up rb, he isn't a backup qb at best, he isn't the worst starter in the league. These comments often make me wonder about people's motivation but I don't concern myself with that. I can see how Tyrod perceives it to be because he is black. I can also see him feeling extra pressure as well. With the limited amount of black qbs maybe he feels extra pressure to be a role model to young qbs. We aren't far removed from Rush Limbaugh's comments about Donovan McNabb. It was just last year that Kaepernick singled out Buffalo as the worst place he visited last year with his treatment. In a thread today someone labeled Teddy Bridgewater as mobile. He attributed it to a madden rating NoSaint routinely brings up the Rockets GM and his insistence of comparing players across race. That is a GM for a professional league perhaps he has his pulse on pro sports more than message board jockeys? I'm glad none of you are racist nor know of anyone who is racist but that isn't america today. People still are judged by the color of their skin. It is getting better but we still have a long way to go. Lastly, I worked at a psych hosptial for children through my 20s and had a situation arise that has stuck with me to this day. A doctor was explaining to a mother all of the things she was doing wrong raising her child in the ghetto. She stopped him and not so politely explained to him that he had no idea what it was like to be her, live in her situation, be raised in her situation, or have to deal with what she has to deal with on a day to day basis. It isn't always as easy as "pulling yourself up by your boot straps" or to change from the only life you have known. So for everyone shouting down TT and stating why he is wrong and that you now hold a lower opinion of him, perhaps just perhaps, you have no idea what it is like to be him or what he is dealing with. Think about the nonsense you see publicly posted on twitter then imagine what is sent to him directly and privately. Just because you don't see it or agree with him doesn't make him wrong.

most over rated qb in the league imo. That td just cost me my fantasy matchup dammit!

anomaly. look at his career. hell look at just the 4 years since he went to kc.

wow I'm convinced

Alex Smith = Tyrod Taylor Can play great, can play terrible, athletic, mobile, needs talent around him, can win with him. I still stand firm on this player comp as the best in the league for TT

you were done in his what 8th start? what chance are you going to give a rookie qb?

Anyone else wondering if Thompson might be involved in the big NCAA scandal and that prompted his leaving school? Hammer any inside info?

Ashamed to admit to never having a Beef on Weck IN Buffalo but I have had many. Beef and Barrel in Olean has my favorite. Might be that they cut it right in front of you but I have never had a bad one there.

If you are looking for Pizza shop sauce many use Don Peppino's straight out of the can. They may add some basil/oregano/parm cheese but Don Peppino's is the base. It is fantastic and one of my favorites. Costco carries a giant can of it and I also found it at Sam's Club. $3.76 for 104 oz. Give this sauce a shot and you won't have to worry about your own recipe. Cuba cheese shop has fantastic soy cheeses. Or at least that is what my wife tells me. I realize Cuba probably isn't local to many but they do ship. We wasted a lot of money on some really terrible cheese substitutes and this is one that she says is the closest.

Seeing this with Wentz as well. They went out and surrounded their young guys with some talent.

Completion % (13th), YPA (9th), TD % (14th), INT % (1st), QB rating (8th), QBR (9th). Pretty much every efficiency stat he is in the top 15 it is the volume stats he struggles on. When adjusted for his attempts his numbers look very good. Agree with Hokie too, as we play a couple of softer defenses the volume stats will look much better as well. Small sample size. I messed around with this a bit and am interested to see where it all ends up. Good work Hokie

Humber won't be out as long as Matthews probably since his hand is less important for his position. I think both are slated around a month tho and IR is 8 weeks. too long imo

Anderson going to ir is one move maybe Khari Lee is the other cut?

I agree. I think after that game he was told he might not make the roster and retired instead of being cut/quit.

I pretty firmly believe he ruined his reputation at the end of his Bills stint. Then he signed a big money contract with NO and under performed. He's likely viewed very poorly in the NFL community. He won't play if he doesn't want to and didn't play well the last time he laced em up. Not a good recipe to stay in the league where teams are always looking to get younger and cheaper.

for some background... I'm pro legalization and work in hr. The NFL doesn't have to allow marijuana use. They get to determine if they want to make concessions on it but can hold employees (players) to the federal standard. I just went through a webinar about marijuana and the workforce. I thought going I that people with prescriptions would be protected by the ada but unfortunately it isn't so.

Remember Carson Wentz's first 4 games just last year too. Watson looks good so far but still a long way to go. Didn't Fitz go for 300+ and a couple tds in his first start too?

it seemed that way on tv. a few of the reviews I thought were going against the Bills because of the crowd roar. only 1 time did it get noticeably loud on tv for the falcons. it happened several times for the Bills.

that win doesn't happen without white at cb.

So you don't watch Alex Smith play? I have said time and again Smith to me is the best player comp in the league to TT. The Chiefs are highly successful and have been over the last several years. The difference between the Bills and Chiefs has been talent on both sides of the ball and coaching not qb play. Seriously look up the stats. It may have to do with transplants thread. Instead of saying something nice they just aren't saying anything at all I agree if the teams need a qb but that is a big if. The season has to shake out but teams with a chance at a top 2 pick include Chargers (unless they want move on from Rivers), Bengals (same with Dalton), Colts (Luck), Texans (Watson), Giants (Eli), Niners (possible Cousins destination), Seahawks (wilson), Bears (Trubisky), Bucaneers (Jameis), and Saints (Brees). Obviously it is only week 3 and many of these teams may right the ship but the draft is a long way away. There may be a team or several teams that look to deal bc they don't need a qb much like the titans 2 years ago. I think Peterman, TT, and the draft pick should all get the chance to win the job and best man wins. I don't want anyone handed it. Not Tyrod because he is the incumbent, not the draftee because he was a high pick, and well peterman will only get it IF he really outshines the other guys. Okay I disagree with a lot of your posts but this was hilarious! I too ran this last year or the year before. It turns out having a lot of 300+ yards passing usually meant you had a poor defense and/or were trailing in a lot of games and forced to pass. Having a lot of 100+ yard rushing games meant you had a good defense and/or led in a lot of the games and therefore sat on the ball. Wins were much more correlated to runs but the causation wasn't running = wins it was wins = running. Much the same passing didn't = losses but losses meant passing at least imo from the numbers I ran and looking at the context of those numbers.

To your bolded I agree 100% I didn't care for Orton because he meant nothing to the team and watching him slide short on that one play was exactly the reason why. He did nothing for the long term question for the Bills. I guess I feel like people who want Peterman do now. We could have gotten the answer on EJ in 2014 good, bad, or otherwise. Instead we got our own version of smokin jay.

I was an ej guy and still think he got a raw deal here. It was definitely time to move on but I thought the rug was pulled out from under him first by injury and then by Marrone. He wasn't given a fair shot to develop the only way I think a qb can, by playing games. Now the jets game last year reinforced to me that he most likely would never get it but again the Bills are very much to blame for his poor development imo. Tyrod is much better than EJ and I think he showed it in camp and proved it all throughout the last 2 years. He was luckily developed by Jim Harbaugh and the Ravens before going on the field for the Bills and getting his on the job training.

Yeah I did send you one. For me Flacco's success was so long ago it doesn't count anymore. Cam (imo) is washed up. Physically he isn't right and he doesn't strike me as a mentally strong guy. Add in the wear and tear of his style and his limited passing skillset and I wouldn't take him over TT either. That is before factoring in contracts which slant it even further towards TT. Fans clamored for improvement and I think we are seeing it with TT. They asked for throws over the middle, quick releases, winning games without the running game being effective, and to be consistent. He is doing all of those things THIS YEAR. He did have a stinker in Carolina, so did the whole offense. I have stated this point over and over. When we draft a guy next year and if he came in and put up 51 tds to 15 ints over his first 32 games we would be pumped and think we have the answer. People don't feel that way with Tyrod. I think they lean to hard on it being his 7th year in the league instead of looking at it as his 3rd year starting. He is still fairly young for a qb and progressing. He hasn't been figured out as some want to say. I'm still on the qb in the draft train because I want him to be pushed and the Bills to play the best guy not someone because they are the only guy. If they draft a guy and immediately name him starter without making him earn it first I will disagree with the move. Whomever is the starter next year and beyond will be the winner of the competition much like Tyrod was 2 years ago.

Using my computer.... Tyrod is 17-15 as a starter. Please don't be asinine enough to attribute 17 years of suck to a guy who is on his 3rd year with the team...

What does Flacco bring to the table other than past success from 5 years ago, no team success since, major injury, a much better coaching and organization situation without results, and he is a tall white guy? I wish we could bet on that. How about that Cam bet? 2 tds, 4 ints, 188.67 passing yards per game aren't pro bowl numbers. The NFL is a what have you done for me lately league and Flacco hasn't done anything in a long time to be considered a good qb. Russel Wilson is another guy who was successful with a great team around him. Once they got paid there wasn't the money to keep the great team around them and they are both struggling to carry the load by themselves. BTW great QBs should take the Tyrod deal. It allows a better team to be placed around them. I am a firm believer of Brady's success partly coming from his willingness to take less than market level deals. He has the 19th highest contract in the league Tyrod the 21st. As opposed to Flacco who is the highest paid qb. In fact of the top 10 qb contracts only Kirk Cousins (8-7-1), Matt Ryan (11-5), Aaron Rodgers (10-6), and Ryan Tannehil (9-7), and Andrew Luck (8-8) had winning records last year. These crazy contracts are crippling teams. I've provided stats to back up my point. Flacco is BAD and people would be screaming if they only watched him...