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Stephon Gilmore "DPOY" Stephon Gilmore "Devante Parker Owns You" Stolen not my own but i got a good laugh.

I disagree. Patriots are employing the same exact strategy this year and did at the end of last year. Until Wilson came into his own, the Seahawks won a superbowl playing that way. Broncos won one with a limp armed Manning. Even the Steelers with baby big ben employed the same strategy. It can be a super bowl winning strategy as history has shown repeatedly. So you have total offensive rankings but that isn't what this is about. You have been railing about passing. Do you want to go back through and look at passing offense ranks? Nah probably not but I will for you: 09 2v4 10 5v14 11 2v5 12 15v23 (!!!!!) 13 1v26 14 9v27 15 14v24 16 3v4 17 2v13 18 5v8 So lets see out of the last 20 super bowl participants; 7 haven't been in the top 10 and 4 were in the bottom 10 of the league. If you want to use stats at least stay true to your argument and post the correct stats.

The bolded is one of the first things they teach you NOT to do. However I won't disagree especially with the speed of the NFL that is what happens. The facemask on Edmunds is a perfect example of this. The ref saw the lunge and reaction and figured there must have been a facemask. Refs should only be calling things they specifically see but I get, again because of the speed, why they don't. Doesn't make it any less infuriating when it happens though.

Thank you! The process will grow stale real quick if they don't reward the guys that earn it. Shaq and Jordan are on that list. Yannick Ngakoue has exactly 1.5 more sacks than Shaq this year (8 to 6.5) while playing 695 snaps to Shaq's 464 snaps. That means that on average Yannick gets a sack every 87 snaps and Shaq gets one every 71 snaps. We have a guy on our team that has bought in, produced, and will be cheaper while being a known commodity. No reason to spend more money on Ngakoue for less production.

Every de gets those. Strahan set the record on favre diving. Shaq has the production of guys who are thought of much higher and have signed some big money deals. Calais campbell signed for 4/60. Frank clark was traded for a 1st and more and got 5/105. Shaq matches their production this season playing less snaps.

Bills will be active again in FA this year. Comp picks are still a year away imo. Yeah the Bills should add a stud pass rusher like a Frank Clark or a Dee Ford. Maybe a Carlos Dunlap or Calais Campbell. Oh wait they have equal to or as many sacks as Shaq. I have been preaching this!!! Why make holes when they have so much money. Time to stack talent not just replace talent. As for you worried about them getting paid and taking it easy, you haven't been paying attention. That is not the type of players the Bills have on the team. They have guys that go to work, embrace the team idea, and work not only for themselves but each other. If they were money focused players they would have already been jettisoned. Lawson and Phillips have not only been productive but they have brought an attitude to this defense. These dudes are playing with fire and intensity and producing. You don't let that go. I loved the Shaq pick and now he is ballin. Jordan is on the sidelines pumping the crowd up going crazy. How can you not want these guys to stay Buffalo Bills. My name is section122 and I would like your vote for Jordan Phillips fan club president.

I love it. I originally wanted to springboard this post into a thread about the Bills and where they actually fall in the NFL grand scheme of things but you started the work here. I do want to point out that the Bills have exceeded expectations each of McDermott's 3 years here. His first year when they jettisoned Watkins and Darby in the preseason I and a lot of fans thought the tank was on. Nope 9-7 and playoffs. Then last year there were posts about how Alabama could beat the Bills and they were the worst team in the NFL talent wise. Nope 6-10 and 9th overall pick. This year people thought maybe just maybe if everything broke right they could be 9-7 or 10-6. Well they did that with 2 games to go. Anywho.... Here is the list of teams that have made the playoffs 2 of the last 3 years: Patriots, Chiefs, Seahawks, Saints, Rams, and Bills. Texans and Steelers could join this club as well. Look at that list and think of the reputations of all of those teams. Pats Goat coach and qb, Chiefs with Reid, Mahomes, and their weapons, Saints with Brees and Sean Payton, Wonderboy McVay, and the amazing history of the black and yellow. Then you have the Texans who get knocked for their HC and lack of gm and the Bills who people are just now coming around on. It occured to me during the Ravens game that respect won't be given to the Bills it will have to be taken. When they lost to the hottest team in football and the favorites for the SB it was covered as the Bills can't beat anyone good. Nevermind the Cowboys. Since they lost to the Bills they must be bad. The Steelers game really started to change people's minds. It was the second time a lot of people got to see the Bills in 3 weeks after not seeing them for a long time (1 MNF last year with Derek Anderson) and they beat 2 darling franchises of the NFL. I guarantee when they win on Saturday they will get even more publicity and respect. tl;dr respect is coming but it will have to be earned from media that will do so begrudgingly when forced to. The Bills can do that with this team. I'm a Billiever.

LeBron and Ad is a lethal combo IF and its a big IF they can stay healthy.

This aged poorly

Yeah no team in the NFL scares me which is a weird feeling that I haven't had since I was a kid. I think the Bills can compete with every single team in the NFL. They showed they can hang with the Ravens and Patriots. Their strong defense can keep them in any game especially in January. Time to shock the world. Why not us?!?!?!

I don't disagree with either of these statements. However they include nuance which the poster I responded to either intentionally or not is ignoring. Lamar is lights out this year and he is still behind Tannehill in all of those categories I listed. Stats lie and there is so much more to them then the gross numbers his argument lacks that nuance. I swear I'm not stalking you I only am responding because I looked up Brady's numbers yesterday... In his second year Brady's numbers looked like this: 62.1 comp%, 3764 yards passing, 6.3 ypa, 28 tds, 14 ints, and a rating of 85.7 Josh's second year (some are projected): 59.3 comp%, 3287 yards passing, 6.7 ypa, 20 tds, 10 ints, and a rating of 84.6 if you include rushing 3820 yards, 30 tds Clearly still some room to grow as a passer but overall production is pretty close. In his 4th year starting Brady really came into his own backslid a little in his 6th and then became the Brady we all know is his 7th year starting. That was the 18-1 year where he had his best weapons.

Lamar Jackson is passing for 206.4 ypg. 1 full yard per game than Josh Allen. Jackson hasn't had to play from behind and the Ravens lean on the run game and strong defense for success (sound familiar). The Ravens are #1 in the league in rush ypg by 55.1 ypg over the next closest team. To put that in perspective they are farther ahead of the #2 team than the #2 team is ahead of the 22nd team (Lions). Lamar is playing lights out this year no doubt but where does he project long term? Why is Josh Allen Blake Bortles but Lamar can't be Colin Kaepernick? Both of these guys have their whole careers in front of them. Both guys took tremendous leaps from year 1 to 2. It will be interesting to see where they go... As for stats... Ryan Tannehill is ahead of Lamar Jackson in almost every category (comp %, ypa, ay/a, y/c, ypg, QB rating, ny/a, any/a, 4th quarter comeback, and game winning drives). So by your "logic" you would take Tannehil over Lamar Jackson right? He is top 5 in a bunch of passing categories and ahead of Lamar in all the ones listed above.

To your bolded we also get a little emotional watching the games. This year I have rewatched almost every single game (not the Eagles lol). It strikes me the second time around, knowing what will happen, how much different Josh's performance looks. Specifically the Browns game sticks out in my mind. He wasn't great at all but he wasn't nearly as terrible as I thought he was in real time. The Ravens games looked better as well. He had some really untimely drops against the Ravens that ended drives through no fault of his own. I'm not saying he is perfect or anything of the sort just that we are emotional when seeing the games because we live and die with each throw. When we watch other qbs their bad passes don't stick in our minds because we don't care. Interesting thought exercise here of how many teams would this apply to? At first I thought duh so would every team but I'm actually not sure that is true. Chiefs and Texans I think would stick with their guys, Ravens as well. However I think this year the Patriots, Steelers, and the Bills if trading would be the favorites because of their defenses. Some of the interesting teams though are on the outside looking in. The Colts and Browns I think would move into playoff territory but maybe not AFC favorites. It would be interesting to see Wilson with the talent at WR that Cleveland possesses.

hmmmm I like numbers and don't think yours are accurate. Here is what I found: JAcoby Brisset is 16th in the league at 90.1 for Qb rating so using that as a bench mark, Josh has 7 games above that and 7 below. He doesn't have a 3 game stretch of bad anywhere this year although he could if he plays poorly this week. He has had 2 tough games in a row against 2 top 10 defenses which shouldn't be surprising. I found a neat little stat here that shows QB Rating against Josh has performed above the league average against Dallas, Denver, Miami, Miami, Washington, Tennessee, and the NYG. Again 7 games. The list of Qbs backed by a strong defense at the start of their careers is long. Russel Wilson which you didn't like so how about Ben Roethlisberger? Or *gasp* Tom Brady (less than 7ypa and less than 90 qb rating each of his first 3 years starting)? Why not choose them?

The answer was part of the same tweet lol browns in 2007 https://twitter.com/ESPNStatsInfo/status/1206431477187203072

I'm on record as saying he is my favorite player on the team so this is not an unbiased post but.... The Bills have so much cap space going into next year. I think they can keep Star, Murphy, etc for another year and still do what they want. There is no reason to create holes and swallow dead money when they have so much flexibility. Star and Murphy can play next year then the dead space for star drops considerably while Murphy's contract is off the books. I think they should only look at cutting players when they have cap troubles. I don't see a reason to create a hole just to need to pay someone else to fill it. For example Star's contract pays him 10.1 million next year which I agree is a lot. Dead money is 7.8 million. Can you find a better player for 2.3 million? I don't think so. Also cutting someone means signing someone which cuts into the comp formula. I think this year they won't be quite as active but still doing some fa signing. Comp picks are a year away still imo. Sign Philips to 15.5 if that is what it takes, keep Star and Murphy, sign shaq to 9 million and you still have 65 million dollars to work with. Draft a pass rusher to replace Murphy and Hughes after next year. Just spit balling but I hate the idea of cutting guys for minimal savings when they don't need the money

Agree that Singletary and Knox will have to step up. Singletary needs to hold on to the football and so does Knox. I think though it really comes down to Josh taking care of the football moreso than anyone else. No back foot throws and no heave and hopes. I think he does it and I really think the Bills take this game.

I was looking up stats for another thread and came across the fact that the much maligned Bills run defense has moved to #10. That means the Defense is top 10 in ypg, ppg, passing ypg, rush ypg, and turnovers. Didn't keep digging but they are every bit as good as advertised!

Bills will play the team that finishes in the same spot division wise as them. Finish 2nd play the 2nd place team. When they win the division they will play the division winner of the AFC North (Ravens)

Yeah he took a tremendous leap in growth after that first game. Time to see if the lessons stuck!

Tommy Shaw is one of the most underappreciated guitarists imo. He is fantastic. You can definitely see the sideline bouncing and getting hyped up. On a side not did it bother anyone else that the hits on the video didn't line up to the music? If this is your thing do it right!

Was just talking about this last night. Some of the teams we have played have been bad but had really good defenses. The Bills have played the 1st, 4th, 7th, 8th, and 12th ranked teams in points against The Bills have played the 1st, 2nd, 8th, and 9th defenses in takeaways The Bills have played the 1st, 4th ,6th, 7th, 9th, 10th, and 12th in total ypg given up The Bills have played the 2nd, 5th, 6th, 7th, 8th, 10th, and 12th in passing ypg given up The Bills have played the 2nd, 3rd, 5th, 7th, 11th, 12th, and 13th in rush ypg given up That is a lot of tough defenses and they still sit at 10-4. A lot of trial by fire that will only help come January!

I was just happy to see the hatchet buried! Regardless of the division (which I still want obviously) a win would almost certainly knock them out of a first round bye. I felt strongly about the Pitt game and I feel just as strongly about this Patriots game. It's gonna be another ugly slobber knocker but I see the Bills winning this one. They have been reeling and that offense looks worse than the Bills offense.

This year feels different doesn't it? The Bills are a team of destiny this year and removing the same old Bills feeling while making up for past ills. All in the year 20-19. Beat the Giants (super bowl 25) Beat the Redskins (SB 26) Beat the Cowboys (SB 27 and 28) Beat the Titans on an illegal forward pass call (music city forward pass) Ended the curse of Flutie having him lead the Charge against the Ravens. Beat the Steelers to get into the playoffs (3rd stringer game) Clinched the playoffs with a score of 10-17 which happens to be Ralph Wilson's birthday. Last one left is to fix is the monkey that is the Patriots off their back. 31-0 0-31 ring a bell? Time to reverse it! Bills will win on Sunday 16-10! Book It!

I'm trying to find video but I had a theory about Josh's accuracy and I think Sunday proved it correct. If anyone can find a video of every throw I would appreciate it I had no luck. Josh is very accurate when he completes his throwing motion fully. He gets in trouble when he tries to get too "cute." When he is trying to place the ball instead of just letting it rip it gets away from him. Much like when a golfer tries to slow their swing down or take a half swing and gets themselves in trouble. His full throwing motion comes down as he completes it. When he throws long many times he stops himself halfway and doesn't complete the motion. It is amazing that I can't find a highlight package of missed throws or really any highlights that include the missed throws.