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I think I can help... without brady they had another qb deemed to be a franchise signal caller play in his place. The good teams can plug in rookies and the mistakes they make are covered by the good players around them. Or best case they can sit and learn behind quality veterans and not have an entire fan base expect the world from them first snap. Thank you so much for this post. There are only a few examples of stud qbs not taken in the first round however there are so many players at every other position that excel taken in later rounds. We have a qb and an above average one at that however he's not a franchise build your team around type. Doesn't it make sense to take one let him learn while building the rest of the team up. We have 8 picks in this draft along with the deepest fa pool (depending on cba outcome) ever as all the players who were restricted even after their 4 years will be fa.

Each player is his own entity. Cam newton whether he is good or not has nothing to do with aaron maybin. Maybin was undersized for his position and a one trick pony (speed rush). Cam newton has excellent size with no concern over his accuracy, arm strength, or throwing motion. There was a great write up on here a couple of days ago by a dolphins writer all about cam newton. In it they interviewed several teammates who all raved about his leadership. Also mentioned was how he was instrumental in getting his receivers together during the offseason to prqactice. Also how he was first in and last out and he knew where every player was supposed to be and when. These are all intagibles your looking for in a qb. So I'm left looking at a qb who appears to have great leadership skills and an excellent commitment to getting better and making his team better. Add to that his physical skills that you can see on tape and you've got pretty much everything your looking for in a qb. That's why I want cam newton!

Also interesting was him commenting on how deep the draft was for dl and that there would be first round graded talent available early in the second. So it would be possible to get cam then a first round quality dlineman. That would be an ideal scenario!

Wow that article was so long I forgot it was attached to the forum! That being said I read the entire thing and came away feeling even stronger that I want cam newton on this team. Yes there are holes on this team but I feel this is an opportunity to upgrade the most difficult position to do so. The breakdown of his final 6 games (including alabama and the sec championship game) was especially impressive. I challenge all the cam haters to read this article to at least broaden your perspective on him.

I will be shocked if taylor is still there in rnd 2 and wouldn't mind a trade up a few slots into the end of rnd 1 using our extra 4th to ensure we get him. I picked newton taylot and sturdivant as I hope ot and te is addressed in f.a. So many holes on this team so many picks can address needs but I really could see a "luxury" first rnd pick on someone such as newton green or peterson as they may be viewed as best available.

Just wondering what your basis for this opinion is. Really this is the last guy we need?! How much have you watched him play?

How about this novel idea... if you want a qb find one on your own. If someone has one you want trade for them. To punish teams that are good at finding talent and teaching that talent is ridiculous. If the bills were good would you be for this idea?

I personally love watt. Watch the game tape against the osu and he single handedly dominated that game. They moved him all around the line and he was unblockable. However I'm pretty sure wisconsin runs a 43 and on a few of those plays he was a dt. If you haven't seen him yet he is def worth checking out. As for the tradeback mentioned above he is top 20 material not top 10 (at least according to projections) so he could be had even after multiple trade downs and stockpiling a bunch of picks.

Why does it need to be a trade down? If he is who they like then take him there instead of risking losing out on him for an extra pick. Qb is a very important position (obviously) and we have a chance to upgrade it with an extremely exciting and dynamic playmaker. I agree the defense is a bigger problem but not our only problem. I think ppl (myself included) haven't seen quality qb play in so long we will accept fitz. He is decent but will anyone on here call him great? Cam has a chance to be that. I will ask this in all seriousness bc I really do want to know ppls opinion... if they were both available and you had to choose one do you take fitz or cam?

I think having the draft before benefits all of the teams in the nfl. That way they can draft whomever they want then use fa to fill the holes on the team instead of plugging in holes then figuring out who to draft needing to fill holes with unproven players

I don't even feel his ceiling is low being a safe pick means everyone expects you to be good. He to me is better than bowers and at least on par with fairley if not better. I also agree with the above poster he would immediately become the best end on our team. So improving a weak spot on the roster, getting an immediate contributor, and beefing up our lines is not what you want with the 3rd pick?

I missed that convo completely and thought it was obvious to everyone he was putting on the belt haha Guess I've never thought of it that way but now that you mention it I guess it does make a difference. The only time I notice is when an interviewer spends the entire time lobbing softballs and continuously compliments the player which drives me insane. As much as I can't stand jim romes show he does do a great interview.

I do agree first takes b squad isn't the best but I hardly watch interviews for the interviewer

It continues to blow my mind how people make statements such as I don't watch much college football but or I haven't seen much of player x but or I saw clips on youtube and this player is amazing/terrible... and then spout opinions as fact. Please go back and watch dareus completely control the line of scrimmage in several games throughout the last two seasons esp the championship game mentioned earlier that they continuosly called his name. He is a safe pick bc his FLOOR is so high not IMO because his ceiling is low. Bowers, gabbert, and quinn scare me bc of the potential to bust.

Stevie johnson was just on first take. Great interview sounded like an excellent teammate said his favorite catch this year was a 3 yarder that set up corey macs first ever td. Also said he has moved on from the drop but learned from it... doing this from my phone so maybe someone could help with the link. Glad there is a consistent face on espn for the bills besides berman! Lol Watching this got me off the ok with aj green bandwagon so many more pressing needs. Feel confident it won't happen anyway his history is taking a tall wr in the middle of the draft (vincent jackson, malcolm floyd, easley, etc...)

I like it think you addressed a bunch of needs with what should be good value if the players are there. The only glaring one left out is te which I wouldn't mind going the fa route as I feel that's a tough position to project to the pros and is easier to evaluate with a body of work. Also pretty sure taylor won't be there in the 3rd and moffitt may not either. Lastly I don't understand why, if we are truly trying to build through the draft, there is not more trading down to accumulate picks... and don't tell me its hard it doesn't have to be a first round trade down although that would net the most extra picks can be had whenever you move around.

I really like the flag football idea as my idea was to not have a game but just do skills competitons. There used to be a qb skills comp that I loved as a kid and Saturday night for the nba all star weekend is most peoples favorite. These 2 ideas combined would make for a weekend I would actually watch.

Way way off topic but how about ppl do some parenting and teach their kids right from wrong. Freedom of speech is the thing imo that makes america the best country in the world and you want to repeal that?! I know a lot of dumb things are said on this board but I nominate this as the dumbest post ever!

Might be p*ssin in some peoples cheerios with this but... we have multiple years and drafts before the bills will be contending for anything. That is the time it will be neccesary to build up both the d and offense because neither are playoff caliber. Imo it doesn't matter what position this pick plays as much as they are a legit stud in the nfl because that's what #3 picks should do. It doesn't have to be d (although could be) it doesn't have to be a qb (although it could be) it has to be someone who produces period.

Jj watt would be fine for me but not at 9 seems he could be had a few picks later. Multiple trade downs would be less likely than buddy not taking 2 minutes to send in his pick imo

I don't think anyone should be making their entire opinion on this one game. 6 weeks after the season with all that time to prepare for the defense. He is a special talent and its not the hard to youtube highlights of all of the games this season to have an informed opinion whichever side of the fence you fall on. Me I would take either dareus fairley or him... so far until I look deeper into other top prospects seasons

A couple of things: 1. The article everyone is qupting for how bad of a teammate is from one source who could be like fisher and not care for young. 2. Titans last 2 years with vince 11-7 without 1-13 3. Was having his best statistical year before not being allowed back in the game d/t a hand injury which started the whole issue. 4. Someone can correct me if I'm wrong but if traded the team that picks him up is not liable for roster bonuses as those are from the team w the original contract. 5. How would people feel about trading the 4th we got for marshawn? Him for vy straight up would have been acceptable in my book how bout yours? 6. Picking him up removes the need to draft a qb, I believe chan likes mobile qbs (again correct me if I'm wrong) therefore allowing the team to focus on other needs 7. Don't discount his friendship w scaife as bringing in vy may help bring scaife in which would help our te problem

Iirc don't the picks alternate in later rounds? Do we switch w cincy in the second round?

It doesn't matter because the players drafted @ 8-10 could have gone 1-3.