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hmmmmm. Rob Ryan took over the Cowboys in 2011 and took them from #23 to #14 and then #19 in 2012. So both years were an improvement. Then he left and in 2013 they finished #32. So they were worse the years directly before and after him. He took over the Saints in 2013 and took them from #32 to #4. Then they dropped back to #31 with him and finished at 31 after firing him this year. I looked back through New Orleans and they finished #24 in 2011, #4 in 2010, #25 in 2009, #23 in 08, #26 in 07, and #11 in 06. So in the last 10 years the Saints have had a top 5 defense twice and once with with Rob Ryan. So I don't see any top 5 defenses he has ruined. I see mediocre defenses that he has coached with 1 very successful year and 1 really poor year.

I have bolded some interesting parts of your discussion that are pertinent here. Using words like "I Know" and "Inevitably" kind of drag down your post. Your entire post would be much better if you just changed it to "I think" because at this point you have no idea. You think that is what will happen but really have no idea. This whole line "Being realistic and knowing our defense will be passed upon like crazy in the middle is not negative. Its knowing that TE's will put up career numbers. Its knowing that flankers and inside route running WR's and RB's - like Forte - will eat our ILB's alive." is much more of the same. TE's will put up career numbers is so much hyperbole it makes my head spin. So are you saying that you are positive beyond a shadow of a doubt that every te that the Bills face will have a career best game? You say Forte will eat our ILB's alive and know it to be a fact. What if he starts to slow like everyone has put on McCoy who is younger? What if Ragland is the real deal? Again an I think would be so much better. The piece de resistance though is this: But I could probably coach this team better than Rex Ryan. I think there are a dozen here who could. Just like Bill said, a bunch here could have drafted better than Whaley. you don't seriously believe this do you? Do you have any idea what it takes to be an NFL HC? Seriously this is just absolute nonsense. ooooh look you lay out a scheme, and know your x's and o's even! Let me guess you played in HS maybe even a low level college? That is a long way from matching wits with the best of the best. There are guys that have dedicated their lives to this, who I would imagine know x's and o's, that haven't succeeded at this but there are dozens on this message board that could succeed. If you truly believe this why are you not coaching in the NFL? Do you not want to make millions of dollars for something that is so easy dozens of internet posters could do?

My post was simply directed at those that bash everything Bills. There are many posters here who post on both sides. Metz lives is one I can think of as well as Kirby and NoSaint among others. Then there are those that I won't throw under the bus that post nothing but negativity. Those are the posters that bother me. Poster with a clear agenda such as cuz wrecks sux bother me they have made their point but refuse to move on. Here is the thing though the other side is just as bad just less bothersome. If someone wants to post pie in the sky it isn't going to annoy anyone. It also doesn't add too much to the discussion but it is much less obnoxious. I prefer to be an optimist because I get enjoyment from watching the team. It is the off season where every team has a chance. Am I getting concerned about Sammy's injuries? Yes I am. Am I concerned about Shaq's surgery? Not really as a few games will hopefully be a blip on his career and I would rather have it happen now rather than later. I enjoy engaging in discussion about the Bills but get annoyed with the everything is terrible crowd. Not everyone has to agree with me as that would make for boring discussion. However not everything the Bills do is terrible and the worst decision ever. The Bills are middle of the pack and have been for most of the 16 year drought. That tells me that they make some good and some bad decisions. That tells me that they both are not making the best moves in the league nor the worst. As an aside, condescending "I'm so much smarter that everyone and your dumb for disagreeing with me" is another type of poster that annoys me. That said I don't and won't block anyone as everyone here shares the same passion, the Bills.

It really is simple... If you are negative and trash the team and all of its decisions one of two things happen. You are right and can proclaim how smart you are when the team does poorly or you are wrong and your team does well and you can celebrate the success. It is a win win for them.

I think his 8 million dollar contract says otherwise. It has all the markings of a prove it deal. I think a lot of teams were scared off by doing their research on him. Pass rushers always get paid. Olivier Vernon got 15 Mario couldn't even get 10.

Jaws and merrily hodge also watch a ton. I haven't seen it in a while because I don't watch any ESPN anymore bit nfl matchup used to be a very interesting and informative show.

Can we stop referring to them as experts? They are just writers. They are no more expert than most that frequent this board. Seeing them called experts annoys me more than their opinions.

Yup and I'm okay with that. I have said multiple times this offseason that I pin most of the kicking problems on Sanborn. It was very noticeable with punting and I have to imagine it played a role with carp too.

Beerball must be sleeping! No thread to hear instant regret in?

You shouldn't have put out your big board! BBs cheating knows no bounds! This is your fault! ;-)

Pats grabbed Malcolm Mitchell and eland on roberts. I know a couple posters that don't like that....

Amazing!

So why can't Ragland who ran a 4.62 and is bigger do the same?

Billings is falling. Just read there are questions about his love of the game which I hadn't seen before. Hope it's not Tru and hope the Bills snag him!

Yup and I'm happy for it. Very glad to have it proven to me. As I said probably some left over Ralph ptsd lol.

I'm happy hack is off the board. I've been sweating pegula forcing whaley's hand. Probably some left over ptsd lol.

Punishes receivers on shallow crossing routes? Love it. That's where Brady makes his living. It would be nice to see Edelman get lit up so he has something to think about.

Yup 4th round is maybe. 2nd round should be a starter. Not mad at the compensation at all. It may be a bit much but the extra 4th allowed them to make a move for their guy.

But but common sense says...

When did 4th round picks become gold? Seriously is there anything that would make some of you happy?

Hoping for billings at this point!

I agree and think it is silly for Rex to get knocked for picking Clemson players. Having his son be someone who knows these guys, their work ethic in practice, attitude on and off the field, leadership qualities, etc... is invaluable information and something you don't get to see during the pre-draft process where everyone is on there best behavior and giving coached answers. I also wonder if they figured he wouldn't be around for there spot so they didn't feel the need to bring him in.

Slow brains had me laughing! As for your second point I think the loss of Brandon Spikes was huge for the team last year. He improved the run d greatly and brought a nastiness that was certainly lacking last year. A thumper would help and has a place but that doesn't mean I want it to be a high draft pick. Ragland in the second would be tempting though.

It does drown out the message quite a bit.

But I sprained my MCL, and there was a lot of doubt whether I would be able to play against Alabama in the national championship game. I was only about 50 percent, but I went out there and gave it my all. I had three solo tackles, two tackles for loss and two sacks—but we finished six points short of the national championship. in this one conversation he shows so much. Played through pain, put it all on the line for his team even though he was staring at a big payday, played well, finishes the statement talking about the team and how they fell short of there goal.