ExWNYer

C'mon, Jay. A vet like you should know that you can't replicate the speed and accuracy of game vouching drills in a camp setting. What were Poz and the poor FO supposed to do?

I'd first like to thank my Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ, for allowing me to read this post...

They'll also have to deal with Rich (yes, I know..."Who's R. Rich?").

If you can't see for yourself, then it's probably useless trying to tell you but here goes: he was hurt most of last year and never had a chance to fully develop, he was a high 2nd Round pick, he's a huge red zone target with tremendous athletic ability. Just a few reasons...can you comprehend any of that or was it too much to process? 262 posts in 7+ years and you feel the need to start this thread? Seriously?? Go back to your Patsies* board, troll.

And you call yourself a counselor. Holy cripes...

Given your choice of board name, it's safe to say that you're hardly an impartial observer of Trent Edwards.

He's such a "fan" of the Gints and Mitchell that he refers to the LB not once...but TWICE...as "KAWKIA".

They said the same things about Billy Kilmer, too, and he had a nice career. I think Fitz will be fine as the backup. I'm not sure why he gets dissed so much...thought he filled in admirably for a horrible Cincy team last year.

Give it 'til September, EZC...you just may get your wish.

Tell us how you really feel... Seriously, I've never liked Collinsworthless, either. He's always been an egotistical blowhard dating back to his days on 'Inside The NFL'.

Wasn't telling you what or how to think...just having a little fun. Lighten up, Francis. Oops! Was I telling you what to do again? Sorry. BTW, how can I be wrong if the game hasn't been played yet? Do I realistically think that a revamped O-line won't surrender at least one sack? No. But until the Pats* get one, I can't be wrong. Even a "chronic buzz-off" like yourself should understand that (and, no, that's not an insult. Based upon your avatar, I'd hope that you'd get that old SNL reference).

That's 'Patriot*'. The asterisk makes all the difference in the world. Please correct your title or mods delete due to failure to follow proper board procedures. Think positively, Skippy. Zero.

The irony here is truly lost on you, isn't it?

No, I don't. Nor do you have anything that proves that they aren't/weren't interested or involved. We on this board, Tim Graham included, aren't privy to EVERYTHING that goes on behind closed doors at One Bills Drive. That's all I was pondering, not saying that you were wrong. I guess there's no way you could see or acknowledge the POSSIBILITY that they could have been one of the teams?? I never said they were one of them, so I don't need to "have anything that refutes that." Just because nothing was leaked doesn't mean that it isn't so. Again, I never said they WERE involved...just playing devil's advocate. You seem much too defensive and snide in response to a reasonable question.

Actually, your farfetched scenarios are what really sound stupid. I wasn't saying that the Bills were after Cutler, just playing devil's advocate and saying that we don't know for a fact that they didn't kick the tires on him. It's not unrealistic to think that they did. After all, he's supposedly available at a position that is less than settled on this team...Brady and Manning are not available. At least discuss realistically.You're on record as not wanting Cutler. Fair enough. I'm neither advocating for or against him, just wondering. I like Tim Graham and enjoy his insight. No offense to him but he doesn't know everything. Did he "sniff interest" from the Bills on T.O.? I don't remember him calling that one, but my bad if he did and I missed it.

Maybe, maybe not, Deano. How do we know for a fact that the Bills weren't one of the ten teams reportedly inquiring about him? The Bills are the last team I would have thought would talk with (and end up with) Terrell Owens.

Exactly. Well said, Bill. Another good example is Pat Williams. Just because he was undrafted, does he not deserve to be paid amongst the best DTs in the game? A player's draft slot should only affect his first contract. Beyond that, he should be paid based on performance. BTW, the league really needs to address these rookie contracts. The money these unproven, top of the draft players are receiving is ridiculous. It's extremely difficult for a team with a top 5 pick to trade out of those spots based on the money the crapshoots in those slots command.

Of the choices listed, I like Brown. I'll be SERIOUSLY pissed if they take Maybin at 11. Just what the Bills need, another undersized defensive player. Man, I really can't stand this team playing the Cover 2.

'F' Toronto. They can stick to watching a piss poor hockey team...they don't need our bad football team, too. If they're bored with the Loafs, let 'em watch more curling.

Thanks, Lori. I wasn't jazzed about this signing at first but, upon reflection, it makes sense...especially since it's only for one year. If nothing else, it puts the Bills back on the NFL map and makes them (at least temporarily) relevant again. Who knows, maybe it even gets them a national TV game this year. It should be interesting...

Agreed. It will be fascinating to see how he reacts to being a big fish in a small pond, as well. I don't have a problem with this for one year. How many people actually think that the Bills will make the playoffs this year, anyway? It should also take some pressure off of Hardy and allow him to develop without having to be one of the "go to" guys. There's no questioning T.O.'s work ethic. I think his presence will shorten the learning curve for the young WRs like Hardy & Steve Johnson.

"By trading away Marshawn Lynch and drafting Chris "Beanie" Wells in the 1st round..." Beanie Wells for Lynch?? Injury prone, rookie RB for a young, established, top 10 NFL RB??? No way...that's a downgrade for the Bills. "Detroit would then have picks #1 and #11...Buffalo doesn't have to commit #11 pick money to an offensive or defensive position of need at such a high pick." So, the Bills don't "have to commit #11 pick money to an offensive or defensive position of need" but Detroit's going to commit those resources to the #11 AND the #1 overall?! People on this board rag on the Bills for being a cheap franchise yet the Lions are historically one of the cheapest in the league. No team is going to want to commit that kind of money to two top 11 picks, let alone the Lions. Not realistic in the least. "Buffalo then trades Marshawn Lynch to the Seattle Seahawks for their second round pick, pick #37...The guy is a cancer...seriously. Buffalo gets rid of a highly talented player...Buffalo gets another high second round pick at #37." A 2nd Rounder for a young, Pro Bowl RB who has yet to reach his full potential? No thanks. A cancer?? Are you for real? Every indication is that Lynch is loved inside the lockerroom. He's committed a couple of misdemeanors. He hasn't robbed, raped, beaten, or killed anyone. The NFL is loaded with talented players who aren't choirboys but also aren't scumbags either. Lynch falls into that category. Nice job of sensationalizing to try and prove your point. "Buffalo gets more draft picks to fill holes not filled in Free Agency...Buffalo's top needs of DE/C/TE are met while also ridding Buffalo of Lynch and replacing him with the best RB in the class." I don't have a problem with the Bills trading down to acquire more picks. That's about the only thing you said that I agree with or even makes any realistic sense. Basically, what you've proposed is this: The Bills trade the #11 and Lynch for Wells (#20), Mack (#33), & Ayers (#37). So, they're using their 1st Rounder on an unestablished, injury prone, rookie RB who's not even the consensus best RB in the draft and getting rid of a young, stud RB?? They already have a franchise RB. Using this pick on a RB is a downgrade (lateral, at best). They use the #33 on a center here? After they signed Hangartner to fill that role. I love Mack but he's a luxury there. Again, a lateral, at best. How exactly are they using "more draft picks to fill holes not filled in Free Agency"? They had RB and C already filled. You just used their first two picks on a rookie RB and a rookie C. So now they've gone from having the #11 to having the #37. Brilliant way to fill your holes. Sorry, but you didn't think this thru beyond a fantasy football trade. It's not realistic or smart for the Bills. Nice try, Skippy.

I think several people on this board tend to toss a high ball (or two) before posting.

I voted exactly the same way. Quite frankly, I'd love to have any or all of them.