Mr. WEO

nah. it was to the point where Josh felt he had to force passes his way, even when he wasn't open...because Diggs is a selfish whiner.

but will he prove his doubters wrong? For example, if he is standing near another receiver who catches a pass, will he also be credited here with the catch? I sure hope so...

This is what I was alluding to. Gunner is one of several very informed posters who has deep football knowledge who clearly posts well considered thoughts and opinions. And then there is your output (see above). No one is arguing otherwise. But all content is not the same. I do believe some posters stand out, not necessarily per the quantity, but the quality of their output. Gunner is one. They low number posters responding to his take on this one sack, for instance, are not. Their arguments are simple, repetitive and derivative of each other. None of them are persuasive.

gotta love these double and triple figure posters coming at Gunner, of all people. buncha 1 pump chumps.

McD saving that ace up his sleeve for the beginning of the Bills off season

History has never known a 15 year old who could pass for 18! It's just impossible.

if this topic wasn't posted a few times every season, you might be have been on to something

well technically he "downed" Murray, who was already lying on the ground after falling.

what if her claim of 18 is on tape? How do you know you’ve never seen a 15 year old you assumed was 18?

screw them. I hope they are stuck with this bum. serves them right. they gave up on a much better QB and gave away a tone of value (the money is meaningless at this point) for their current flash in the pan QB.

huh?

this is the most one man team in the NFL by far right now.

You keep saying no 15 year old look like they are 18--that's bizarre on its face. But also beside the point. What if a 15 year old (or 14, or 13) says on camera, and tells all of her friends she did so...and they make statements to authorities to that effect? Is it still ok then for a 21 year old man to have sex with her, in your opinion.

Cody Ford is his strength and conditioning coach

Murray fall down

That's Burt Reynolds right there.

This should not age well...

That's not a legal definition. The law doesn't account for your doubts. just answer the question.

Try finding him after thanksgiving

by law, there was no consensual sex between them. yes his side of the story is that she lied to him about her age when he agreed to have sex with her on the spot against the wall of a strangers house. That admission is what got him off the Bills roster, as I said. just to get you on record, if a 15 year old is seen on camera telling a college man on the prowl that she is 18, she doesn’t deserve protection?

You said I made up his defense, yet you just re-iterated it. He said she lied (i.e., he was tricked) about being of age. She left little doubt that's what she did. Had she not, he would have been arrested, as legally, she is not competent to consent. If she was 16, would you say she is still not someone to be protected? 15? What if she was 14 and is on tape telling everyone she is 18 and was looking to run up "her numbers"? What's your cutoff here? The "Model Penal Code" allows this defense with victims as young as 10 years old.

same a-hole, yes..

well, this is what he signed up for. Since those two morons handed him that contract, he has MORE PICK 6'S THAN TD PASSES! some of these irate fans likely got sucked out of thousands of dollars for PSLs to watch this bum stink the place up year after year (when not injured). they razzed him asking for "a million". come on....same stuff he hears from tens of thousands all game. Who didn't see this coming?--hiring Daboll and Shoen was a predictable disaster--two bums. lol Giants.

He wasn't charged for raping an underage girl (a crime) only because of his mistake of age claim, backed by evidence. You already know this. In a state without mistake of age defense, he gets charged for a crime, no matter her body count. Simple.

Wilson was worth a shot. Watson was never as good as Wilson but for a single season years ago.