Mr. WEO

1st Pro Bowl, he was the 5th alternate--Tyler Huntley style. He had one outstanding season in 2020 on a 4-12 teams that refused to run the ball. He'll never be better than that because he never has any good since.

Vern Troyer could step over that bar barefoot

Since you brought it up...is this what "a better leader" does after 2 SB losses? He certainly was an effectual leader--as you yourself point out he led them right off the deep end. Why would he lead them this far only to make the same poor decisions in leadership again and again? Is that the good kind of powerful leadership or the not so good kind? Your logic plainly concluded (off the deep end) above that it was the latter. But yes, he certainly was a strong leader. Aikman was able to keep the lunatics on his roster in check long enough to mop up 2 SBs with those Strongly led by Jumbo.

Oh he certainly had their respect. That's not what we are discussing. These guys no doubt LOVED partying with Jimbo. But as the team leader--he set the tone. The tone he set was "let's go out and rock this town, get in some bar fights, before we play the SB"...... Even the Cowboys, notorious party fiends back in the day, knew how to act on the road during SB week. The difference in results could no be more clear.

He was out partying before at least 2 of those losses...after 2 previous losses. A "leader" would keep the guys in and focused ....and partied after the win. This isn't hard.

Kelly was never the passer that Marino or Moon were. Better leader? lol...That wasn't clear when he and the fellas were lighting up the town every night before twice getting lit up by the Cowboys......

if only this was true...

terminal bump

No Carr? No delta...

Marino would have had at least 2 Lombardies on those Bills teams. If the Bills lost 4 AFCC in a row back then, Kelly doesn't get into the Hall.

My spicy take is that this take isn’t even that spicy: just a fact

they could simply trade Davis and/or Johnson on day 2…

If Beane drafts a day 2 RB that would be a another statement made…

What’s the draw for standing outside live at the draft? After the first, say, 6-8 picks until the bottom of the round (where Bills pick) What’s the lure?

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he's now the best QB on the Browns roster

Beane knows the drill...just waiting for the vic to recant.

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yes, that was the flash in that pan---so many years ago. Watson has 1 more Pro Bowl than the great Vince Young, and only 2 more than the immortals Mitch Trubisky and Mac Jones. Last year at this time, the Browns had not 1 but 2 "Pro Bowlers" on the roster: Watson and the great Tyler Huntley!

flash in the pan years ago

The law says I should only travel at or below a certain speed on any given highway...

I thought it was "you can't teach speed"...

he has 1 wife??

agree Safety room is barren. only backups in there.