Mr. WEO

$388 a foot to live in the middle of nowhere on just over an acre in a house that traded for $160 less only 3 years ago?? lol where are the comps getting that? biggest recent sale (a year ago) on street over got $212. Beane took a $450k haircut on his nearby much bigger place only a year and a half ago. There's nothing in those pics that show any kind of upgrades that could bring that bump. It's a nondescript mcmansion--gotta the love the brick in front....and vinyl in the back! The upper middle class house mullet!

classic Beane 2.0 move lol

Well...the Bills have won 74 games in the past 6 seasons, 5 AFCE titles in a row---is that not "a winning culture"? yet they cannot beat the Chiefs in the playoffs--getting bounced 4 of the past 5 years. in the past 7 seasons, the Chiefs have won 90 games, 7 Divisions, played in 7 AFCC games, won 5 of them and 3 SBs--a culture of winning for sure. Two teams with "winning cultures"...with vastly different results. So how is establishing a winning culture meaningful? Why can't the Bills beat the Chiefs when it matters if the Bills culture is so solid? Steelers, Ravens, 49ers---all teams with a culture of winning...but so what? Where are the championships? Why there only 1 dominant winning culture int eh NFL for years running? It's simple. It's a rare combination of an elite HC and QB. We saw it for years in NE. Swap out Reid for McD and the Bills would have at least 2 parades on the news the past few years. "Beane & McD pretty much sign only guys who support and strengthen the culture. Bad boys don't just damage the benefits of a good team culture, they also tend to do things like not learn the playbook, get suspended, get arrested, and otherwise not add value equal to the level of their physical gifts." Von Miller was arrested and suspended. Then Beane signed 2 FAs who were immediately suspended for PEDs--one of which he knew about and signed anyway. He did that without regard to some made up "culture"--he did it because he figured the team could use them. Lot of posters he salve the annual elimination to the Chiefs by mocking their players' character. It's all just sour grapes.

I think quoting a lot of coaching clichés isn't a strong argument. What HC hasn't said these things? "Champions behave like champions before they're champions'? Ok, sure. You and I both agree the Bills behave like champions and are winners--but they have no championships despite all this culture of winning. I'll agree Belichick at least expected a culture of winning, but that evaporated once Brady left (Brady immediately imported his "culture" to a SB win for a team coached by Arians, of all people). Back in 2016, Foxsports said this: "Hue Jackson has changed the culture. The Cleveland Browns may not be winning games in 2016, but there is a different atmosphere in town now that Hue Jackson is the head coach." Cleveland.com: "Will the Browns put more emphasis on character in the draft under Jackson? We'll see." "In a national radio appearance not long after accepting the Browns job, Jackson told us why he thought the latest new regime change in Berea could make the difference when others failed so spectacularly. "Hue Jackson's in town, baby," the head coach said. Jackson was the worst HC in NFL history Cowher handed Tomlin the Steeler's "winning culture. Tomlin has pretended it is his own since. The result has been, since a SB win 17 years ago and loss 15 years ago, a team that never won another playoff game--and now it's to the point where, with the way Tomlin has mangled the QB room for the past few years, he's essentially daring Rooney to fire him. What's the culture over there? Despite Tom Coughlin's "culture of winning" (2 SBs), he was fired by the Giants (obviously he did not retire) after it somehow became a culture of losing 3 seasons in a row. He brought his culture of trust, accountability and communication to the Jags--where he was canned by the owner specifically because, according to the NFLPA, the players on that team had filed 25% of the player grievances the union received that year. "Trust"?? The NFLPA actually warned free agents against signing with the Jags due to "Coughlin's reported disregard for players rights"---oops, culture!! Harbaugh certainly tolerated and helped deify a total POS like Ray Lewis and, despite rostering a 2 time NFL MVP and racking up a ton of, his team hasn't won an AFCC game since 2012. Dungy was another regular season winner---yet I can't think of a single HC who squandered more elite talent on both sides of the ball. In 7 seasons, his teams amassed a playoff record of 7-6. They beat Rex Grossman for a SB. The Manning-Dungy combo in 7 seasons had an astounding 4 one and done playoff exits. 2 years after the "Dungy era", AI human Jim Caldwell "guided" the Colts back to the SB (a loss). What exactly was Dungy's "culture? H did like to give the starters a rest before the playoffs started (how did that often work out?). Then there's this: and this:https://www.newyorkjets.com/news/for-joe-douglas-and-robert-saleh-character-and-culture-will-lead-to-wins "I feel like we really attacked the character side of the game in our locker room, when you look at D.J. Reed and Whitehead and C.J. and Conklin and Laken," Saleh said. "They bring an edge, they're bringing professionalism, they're bringing a winning pedigree to the locker room. They've all been in championship games, they've all been with winning organizations, so it's really exciting to get those guys here." It's about the talent on the roster and the genius of the coaches. The rest are bromides and platitudes.

there's no relevance to comparing special forces servicemen and pro teams. you would best move off that, nothing there for you. The Cowboys in the 90's were full of "bad boys", but they mopped the floor with hapless Uncle Marv's "fighting for each other" (at bars, before the SB)--there's a lot of irony there. your argument has 2 logical conclusions: 1) the Bills would do better to emulate the Chiefs and bring in more miscreants off the field, who execute on the field "A culture of bad character") 2) Reid is orders of magnitude better at coaching an NFL team than McD

is he not whispering to all these guys??

We all know Beane's kink for handing out 1 year contracts, but I think the Bills are well beyond the point where they should be buying out of the day old bread bin.

agreed. he's simply not his own man

you are a regular here--this place constantly woofs on KC as a place for miscreants, criminals and addicts--yet this "culture" (presumably the opposite of the Bills) only produces AFCC and SBs. Are you saying that ANY culture (lawless or straight laced) is all that matters? That doesn't seem to make sense, but if true, wouldn't the Bills be better off adapting a "bad boy"/criminals in the off-season culture such as in KC? The one the Bills put forth seems to get axed by the Chiefs culture every year when it counts...

well, currently he's spending a lot of time defending his personality in pressers. how many other have had to do this? in college, he publicly called out his O-line, taunts opponents and jaws at refs, flashes his wealth, etc. google such: here's just one (Breer): "“I’m having a really hard time finding coaches or scouts who believe Sanders is a first-round talent, “What I keep hearing—and this has nothing to do with anyone having some personal issue with Sanders, or looking for him to fall in the draft so they can draft him—is that he isn’t a great athlete on tape, doesn’t have exceptional arm talent, and too often does things that simply won’t translate to the NFL game.” "Colorado quarterback Shedeur Sanders gave a blunt message to NFL teams who are considering passing on him in the 2025 NFL Draft. He’ll make note of it if he ends up falling to the Pittsburgh Steelers at No. 21 overall." Sanders said he is always going to be himself even though he knows that might rub some teams the wrong way." “That’s on the people,” Sanders said to Kay Adams on Up & Adams. “That’s on the other franchises that could make that mistake of letting me go there.” Imagine Rooney reading this before Sanders's visit, lol.... "“When I go visit these coaches and when I go to all these different franchises, I ask them truly what I think and how I feel,” Sanders said on the NFL Network’s The Insiders. “Some get offended, some like it, some don’t. Make some people uncomfortable, some people invite that." As Breer correctly points out, teams will ignore this kind of brashness, if the draftee is truly elite. There's a general agreement that Sanders clearly is not that. Plus, what owner wants to deal with his father--they will be a package deal. He's just not talented enough for this headache. Perfect fit?? Fans in the city would enjoy nothing more than feasting on a big mouth rookie who can't back it up. It would be over quick.

Youmleft out Tommy Cutlets---the only QB popular with the fans. Can you image the prospect of dropping the most immature top QB prospect since Johnny Manziel into that media market...along with his famously thin skinned old man?? This would be the fastest ticket out of The Meadowlands for the Giants' Abbott and Costello brain trust. This simply HAS to happen lol.

Cook your own meals. Never pay a cook.

What's the culture over there in KC been for the past 5 years?

I'm still not convinced Mara is pulling every string. It is at least as likely that Daboll and Schoen are too dumb to run a team with a Beane and Josh Allen. What QB could they draft next week that would produce a huge sigh of relief from their fan base? Side note: Schoen and Daboll put together that QB room.

Daboll looking over his shoulder, pulling down his hoodie....

The USFL failed 40 years ago. Every copycat since has also failed, for the same reason---there wasn't enough money in it. The owners initially agreed to a cap, but then some blew right through it, burying the others. The NFL kept them out of NFL stadiums. When it inevitably folded, the league as a whole had lost $160 million by 1985. UFL/FOX should pay "1st round talent 1-5 million a season?? 1. The entire league budget is only $24 million! Last year the salaries were $55k. 2. 1st round NFL annual avg contract starts at $2.5 million for #32 and peaks at $7.8 million for #1--a total of $364 million on 1st round contracts alone--fully guaranteed for 4 years. 3. with NIL, top Power 5 NCAA players are already getting millions---to play college ball. why would they take less to join a league that won't survive to pay them? 4. as we both noted above, the USFL failed specifically because a few owners ignored the agreed upon cap, causing other teams to actually cancel their TV contracts and fold.

Fox is stuck owing 50% of this money pit for as long as it lives. It's impossible to understand any major network executives would have reason to believe there's hope to grow the league. Every iteration of these minor leagues has quickly died simply because there is no money in it as there is essentially no fan interest in this country for such. It's the dumbest business ever, for a network. The UFL and it's network sponsors couldn't afford to pay for the cost of broadcasting from an even larger, more empty NFL stadium one of their 3-3 heading into the 4th Q football Kabuki shows. It costs millions per game to produce each NFL game. UFL can afford to pay its players $4500 a month---before taxes. If you are in Houston or the DC area or Detroit, why would you be more likely to buy a ticket to see this kind of football if it was in a nearby NFL stadium? "Michigan Panthers" currently play in an empty Ford Field.... The NFL is the only broadcasted product in existence that has an almost magical ability to find money anywhere and everywhere (they broadcast a show the other night that was basically an announcement of which players will be attending the draft!). American sports fans simply cannot satisfy their hunger for NFL content (at the expense of every other pro league too). The fact that they look sideways at the UFL (if they truly look at all) confirms that they see not a penny to be made by associating with this stuff.

of guys who played in multiple SB's, P Manning was one of the worst SB performers. Broncos win against Carolina he was simply awful. His 2 SB wins came against an equally terrible Cam Newton and Rex Grossman. i read the same thing happened in 2022--Bills were set to pick George Karlaftis but someone wrote down.....

another Cook thread has given me a headache

It just seemed strange that this guy posted Dolac's pro day data--- and then they changed. Did he have another pro day after the first? It also seems weird that with faster splits, he plummeted in rankings. He's being compared against all LB RAS data since the 1980's, not just to other guys who might have had pro days a week or 2 ago.

why does the stadium matter? they are near empty--how would it be more enjoyable or watchable in an NFL stadium (only 4 teams would be in proximity to one for home games)?

the first one did and they (2.85 and 1.58) were actually slower than the second set of numbers (2.69 and 1.53) that dropped his score---and dropped him 81 spots on the "all time". It's all fugazi anyway, these scores...

The original post didn't suggest it was a former Bill in their prime as a Bills player. Just "which past receiver"...

I don't understand why Fox, for instance, doesn't just put up reruns of Simpsons or Family guy, which regularly are beating the UFL thus far. Why spend all that money on production when reruns cost nothing and provide advertisers with better numbers?

TO was a goof, true. Diggs was a malignancy. Owens was on his last legs in Buffalo but still racked up 800+ with Trent and Fitz tossing. He amassed 5265 yards over 4 years with Jeff Garcia. He then walked into Philly and picked up 1200 off McNabb immediately. 3600 in Dallas in 3 years. He was huge, strong, fast and produced day 1 with each new team. Rice is the GOAT and will never be topped. Fitzgerald was one of the all time greats, but only has more yards because he played 2 more seasons and 44 more games than TO. TO had32 more TDs and more yards per game. Had he played as long as Fitzgerald he would easily be #2 all time. The OP started a thread about former Bills who would be best (in their prime we assume) for Josh. It would be hands down a beast like TO. Moulds, Reed, Evans (forget nearly all of the rest) don't come close other than as sentimental considerations. Lofton may enter the conversation I would say. TO would be Josh's dream receiver--easily the best he has had or could ever have (Diggs is the only solid WR he has played with).