st pete gogolak

Given the WR room and TE room before the season started, I was convinced that the Bills would run vast majority of offensive snaps out of 2 TE, 2 WR and 1 RB set, along the lines of the Peyton Manning, Tom Moore Colts (with Kincaid playing the Dallas Clark role). Couldn’t have been more wrong. Sporadic use at best. Kincaid’s stats are meh, Knox’s are nonexistent. Don’t know if it’s Josh, Brady or McDermott but they are obviously not comfortable with 2 TE as primary offensive formation. That’s why the Cooper trade is so great. Now we have legitimate vet WR to play outside. I’m beginning to believe some of the early scouting reports on Coleman that his best position is big slot. Move Shakir around. Whatever gadget plays drawn up for Samuel, give them to Shakir. Give Kincaid 3/4 or 2/3 of the snaps and look to trade Knox in the off-season. Let Hollins and Samuel take #4 and #5 WR snaps. This offense has a chance to really flourish and dominate. Still need a healthy defense (which never seems to happen at playoff time) and better D line and safety play but this team, in a supposed down year, has a real shot at a Super Bowl run.

Really insane stat. Bills have best point differential outside of NFC North. Insane.

You're right. Why make a run at a Super Bowl by picking up a WR we desperately need when we could get a player a year from now. In all seriousness, it is a little much. Would have preferred giving up a #4 but we needed a veteran quality WR and this is a good fit.

Is the Cooper drop rate this year an aberration or has he always had lousy hands? I think he would be a good fit for the Bills. Let Coleman play slot and Cooper and Shakir outside. I'd be ok with a fourth for a rental. Maybe a little steep but I think we're a decent outside WR and a healthy D from making a run.

Right there with you. Irma, Ian, Idalia, Debbie, Helene, now Milton. Starting to get real old, real fast. Stay safe.

Beating a dead horse here, but if the score was 42 - 42 and our offense was humming, sure take some shots. Plenty of time to move into FG range. But did McDermott watch the first 59 minutes of the game? Josh was 9 for 27 going into the last series for a 100 yards and change. Plus he was dinged up. Needed to kill clock, not because it was the “no brainer” thing to do but because the context made it the smart thing to do.

Speaking of 13 seconds, did you see how far back the safeties were playing the play before game winning FG? 20 - 25 yards behind LOS. Hilarious. I guess that was to prevent a Hail Mary.

Couldn’t believe Allen was in shot gun with no RB at the end. I thought, ok, QB draw. I would have been ok with play action pass on first down. But three straight low percentage passes from the shot gun? Atrocious. Beane had a lot of bad FA WR signings. Samuel might be the worst. Josh doesn’t look right at all, even before the concussion (I’m sorry, back spasms). Reminds me of stretch a couple of years ago after hard hit in GB game at home.

This reminds me of Bills - Vikings game from a couple of years back. Vikings had about twenty chances to put the game away and didn’t do it.

Absolutely agree! Plant leg or no plant leg, it should been a no call because there was such minimal contact.

The first half defense may have been the worst I have ever seen in watching 60 years of pro football. Eleven yards per play! Receivers open downfield without a defender within 10 yards of the receiver. Just awful.

In one sense, I’m slightly surprised Washington selected him, only because Daniels reminded me of RG3. It would be like the Bills drafting a WR named Zay or a DE from Penn State. Obviously they made the right call (unless Daniels gets hurt next week).

Has there ever been a Bills’ game with less to complain about? A blocked PAT and a dropped TD pass. Did I miss anything?

No, no I don’t.

Really? The call in Bills’ game was questionable? Best line I heard was that if Toney was any more Offside, Bills would have been called for 12 men on the field.

Yeah, that’s going to be Rogers’ Achilles heel (pun intended?) this year. He can still throw the ball well enough but he’s old, slow and just can’t move anymore. If his line starts breaking down, it’s going to be ugly.

The NHL called and said “hold my beer.”

This is revisionist history. Bills were Super Bowl FAVORITES heading into that season. Bills’ options were to cut him or roster him. There was ZERO chance the Bills were going to endure daily distractions by rostering a player alleged to have raped a minor. ZERO. Fair? No, not fair at all but that was the reality at the time.

Good points. Made me reevaluate original post. It seems that if you throw out 2020 (no real "down" period, just got pounded by Titans once and Chiefs twice, Chiefs clearly were better team), the Bills have had positive and negative turning points in 2021, 2022 and 2023. That tells me the team (1) is resilient in the extreme (left for dead in both 2021 and 2023 and fought back to make playoffs both years) and (2) goes through a "funk" each year that can last several games. Not sure what it all means other than hopefully we don't lose to teams we should beat in 2024.

To some degree, every post on this forum is subjective. This one is really, REALLY subjective. What games over the last four years have been true turning points to the season, for better or worse? Given that the Bills haven’t made it to the Super Bowl over that time span, I’m going to be more of a pessimist than an optimist. 2023 - to me probably easiest call. Jacksonville. After a terrible loss opening night to the Jets, Bills demolish theee straight opponents, including the “unstoppable” Dolphins. But we go to London, neither offense nor defense plays particularly well, Jones and Milano are effectively lost for the season and we follow up with several weeks of uninspired play (near loss to awful Giants team and losses to bad NE and Denver teams). 2022 - I’ll go to my grave pointing to second half of Green Bay game as turning point. Up to that point, Bills looked hands down best team in the league (undefeated other than fluke loss in 120 degree heat in Miami). Starting in second half of GB game Allen didn’t look right and followed GB with loss to bad Jets team and ridiculous home loss to Vikings. Runner up. Non-game in Cincy when Hamlin almost died. Strange, strange season. 2021 - this is kind of cheating but 13 seconds even though it ended the season. It’s a turning point for the franchise until proven otherwise by a trip to the Super Bowl. Othwise, comeback against TB, despite overtime loss. Helped turn season around. 2020 - comeback win early in the season against the Rams. Showed that Allen had arrived as legitimate star and that Bills were SB contenders (despite being curb stomped by the Titans and the Chiefs - twice).

ESPN just released some predictions for 2024. Bills 7 - 10. Vikings #1 overall pick. In some alternate universe, I’m ok with this. Three picks in the 50, plus some cap space to play around with. Things could be worse.

Pro football is unique among the major sports in that injuries are so much more prevalent than in baseball, basketball and hockey. That’s one reason that no team has accomplished a Super Bowl three-peat. Look at the Chiefs. I don’t follow them very closely but they appear to have avoided major injuries in the last two Super Bowls. In the game against TB, they were missing both starting OT’s and got absolutely smoked.

I don’t watch a lot of college football so this is actually a serious question. Not talking 20/20 hindsight but why him over Mahones and Watson? His arm looks average. Same with accuracy. Some mobility but nothing special. Was it just the Bears screwing the pooch? If Bears didn’t take him would he have gone top 10? First round? Just curious.

Yeah! Drake Maye gets a full year of experience before we play the Pats! /s

A guy nicknamed House orders two entrees? Color me shocked!