Hapless Bills Fan

Psychochicken, WTF?

We seem to have a functional preference for individual threads though Lawson to the Jets for 3 yrs/$45M, $30M guaranteed. I THINK Hendrickson still out there.

Woof. Indeed. But that's what a bidding war in FA will do for you. Maybe they're trying to move on Smoke. They could confuse announcers everywhere. I think better of Beane than that. But if he does I'll be "he knows more than I do"

Well, Crap. But does that mean they're still in on Hendrickson too?

I remember he got fined for an UR on Josh but I don't remember the details, except that it was kind of controversial to the Ravens fans if it was deserved or not.

Of course you are! Just as I'm entitled to argue against it....

I guess that's fair, but on the other hand he showed game by trying to play through it.... As far as that list, Golladay played only 5 games this past season, Will Fuller V was suspended for PEDs (and I think has a game of suspension remaining?) and has NEVER played 16 games in his 5 year career Antonio Brown has shown himself to be a ticking time bomb with an unpredictable fuse and hasn't played >14 games for 3 years I would kind of think a quiet, hardworking guy who played 16 games in 2019 and put up >1000 yds oughta at least make the list! Maybe Smoke's problem is he's too quiet and decent and trouble-free. Apparently if he threw porch furniture at 2 year olds, caused fire damage, gave controversial interviews, and swilled PEDs, he'd get more recognition.

Sorry, I couldn't let your "cheap****" title stand as written Do you really think Judon is a cheapshot artist? He's very physical but I've never thought so

They are indeed, My point was just that Smoke wasn't even on his list I really feel he deserved to be, in terms of contribution to a team over the last 2 years.

Poor John Brown. He doesn't even get listed as one of the unsigned WR free agents. C'mon Field Yates, give some Loooove to my man Smoke!

You would have, but it would probably have been silly for the Bills to accomodate your preference here. 1) asked what one player he wanted, Matakevich was the guy for Farwell. He's apparently the "little engine that could" that fires up the ST. And we're probably gonna be letting a ST'er or two walk (Taiwan Jones mebbe). 2) he appears to have passed Dodson for primary backup at MLB based on the Miami game, and he really played well in that game. We need depth at LB, and he's pretty cheap if they believe he can play D. Rico Report (Buffalo Fanatics) interviewed him recently and he came across as really loving it here and wanting to stay. That being the case, it makes a lot more sense to re-negotiate and keep him.

Count on it.

I'm not sure it can be reduced to $1.7M (unless they're tacking on voidable years) But I'm not the Magic Beane either.

I'm gonna bet that when the dust settles we find that extension magically lowered his cap hit from $3.7M down to $2.3 or something like that

By the time a guy's 33 years old he really shoulda figured it out OK, you just have a different definition of "threat" than I do. If something hasn't happened in 2 years of football, and in fact, seldom happens league-wide, I don't find it realistic to call it a "threat" To me, that would be like last year when Josh Allen wasn't actually connecting on any deep passes, to call him a "threat" because he has a strong arm and can certainly throw the ball that far. If you want to say that something that hasn't happened in 2 years and seldom happens league wide constitutes a "threat", Enjoy!

I have a quiet interest in Trey Hendrickson for the Bills. But I'm pretty sure we can't afford to get into a bidding war

I don't think that quite follows. It's very clear that the OL was the problem at times. But Beane and the coaches and staff might have pored over the film and concluded that most of the OL problem was on Winters, or on Boettger, or affected by the injuries Feliciano and Ford were playing with. They might feel that an OL of Dawkins-Ford-Morse-Mongo-Winters that has some time to practice together and gel in that sequence might be an improvement on the various permutations we played last year. They might also be looking to draft an OL and sign a "middle class" or lower-tier FA they believe could be a sleeper, to add competition.

I thought he did OK last year considering he had Nick Mullens and CJ Beathard throwing to him most of the year.

He did fumble twice and have a muffed punt (essentially 3 fumbles) He had 29 punt returns and 32 kickoff returns, so 61 altogether. Roughly 5% fumble/muff

That may have been your intent, but in the post I responded to, you said: Now if you feel Roberts brings other advantages, that's find, but I can only recognize and respond to the points I actually read you making on here. To which I say, "how many did he actually take to the house?" and if we agree "none", then my point is, you can't have it both ways. If your point is something else, like he gave us great field position on a regular basis, or he was very reliable fielding punts, and you make it, then I can discussit. But don't mention "a threat to take it to the house for a change", and then tell me I'm missing your point that he gave us great field position on a fairly regular basis.

LOL gotta love the muffin who responded to him on one of Bush's three-pieces-of-string-and a jiggle Instas "Is your wife single?" 😅

Fair enough, but you can’t have it both ways. If it’s acknowledged ST TD are rare and we haven’t had one in 2 years, then it follows that having a guy who can theoretically (but hasn’t) accomplished one isn’t as valuable

How many did he take to the house in the last 2 years?

cutting him has major cap implications IR costs us a player and keeps his cap. But this is really a thread to ask what the impact of retirement on guaranteed salary is?

Do we have any details on the contract yet? Apologies if I missed (edit: I mean like actual year by year salary, bonus, this years cap hit)