Thurman#1

The prettiest throw and two picks? That's "more than the other QBs"? https://buffalonews.com/2018/07/28/qb-watch-day-3-allen-makes-prettiest-throw-has-two-picks/ Yeah, not seeing that at all. I'll start believing that the minute you can produce at least one article (professional writer, not a Bills fan) specifically saying that Allen had the best day. On, say, five days. Not the best throw. The best day. And there hasn't even been one day like that so far.

All reports are he's douchy? Absolute nonsense. Perhaps all the reports you're reading, because you're choosing the headlines that criticize him and only reading those. There's not a single teammate who's criticized the guy and plenty who've given him unqualified support. Lots of reports on Rosen have been very positive. Enough so that he got picked at #10 despite injury concerns. There's plenty of reports out there that Rosen is a good guy with interests that piss off people with very old-school views. And your argument that he thinks he can fix the NCAA in 10 - 20 hours is ridiculous on many levels. First, he clearly doesn't think he's fixed the problem. What he and the guys working with him have done is to present an interesting alternative, stimulating discussion and perhaps being part of the start of some real changes in a corrupt system. Second, great ideas spelled out in time periods in the neighborhood of 10 - 20 hours have been responsible for massive changes throughout history. It didn't take longer than that for Lincoln to write the Gettyburg address, or for Luther to think out the message on the church doors. And before people come up with the idiocy, no I'm not comparing his idea to Lincoln's or Luther's. I'm simply pointing out that plenty of ideas responsible for big changes have been started in no more time than Rosen probably spent. You wanna take Allen's demeanor over Rosen's? Fine. As is the opposite. In terms of talent, I'd have taken Rosen in a millisecond. He's far more developed. And developing is not always problem-free. Just the opposite. I'm hoping both succeed. I've always like Arizona.

I'd argue leading with the shoulder is how your body naturally protects eyes and vital organs. But nearly every sport has sport-specific movements players are trained in that counter their natural instincts. You weren't born wearing a helmet, nor did cavemen evolve wearing a facemask. But that's how football is played, which is why players have been taught (mostly successfully) to lead with the facemask in a tackle, as that's the safest way to tackle with your head involved.

As it says in the article, people are freaking out about this for no reason. And it's not like they have a choice. If they don't make rules like this, the game will likely be caught up in major legal troubles and the changing of society's mores. Boxing was huge not all that long ago. Now a lot of society considers it overviolent. Entertainment must change with society.

Yeah, he has a strong arm and he can run. And that's empirical. But not empirical evidence that he will be a reasonable starting QB. Otherwise there would be empirical evidence that Aroldis Chapman could become a reasonable starting quarterback. Strong arm and he can run like hell. Same with the Wonderlic. From what I can tell, even the NFL's personnel people aren't taking that seriously anymore. They give guys another test, recently, I forget the name, but one that has a bit of correlation. For evidence that a guy will be a reasonable starting QB, you need to look at performance-based evidence, specifically how he performed at playing QB. I'm with you that this "zero empirical evidence" is hyperbole. The art of picking QBs is so nebulous it's legit to question how much of the evidence can be considered empirical evidence a guy will be a successful QB. I'm hopeful. But wasn't until I saw that he'd been going to Jordan Palmer and that smarter football people than I were saying his throwing had improved each time he had a showcase in the offseason. It's legit to question his college performance. And equally legit to note that there are some real justifications for a lot of his worst numbers. Not to mention that completion percentage does NOT equal accuracy. This report makes sense, IMHO. It's very pessimistic, though. There are plenty of legit optimistic ones, as well. Here's one that I thought made me a bit more hopeful: Hard for me to take any predictions on Allen seriously, positive or negative. More than nearly any other QBs around, it's just going to be a matter of sitting back, watching what happens, hoping he develops and being happy he is apparently an extremely bright football guy and a very hard worker.

Do you mean on the field at the same time? Or do you mean as a closer as you say at one point? Sure, there could be a closer type guy to play a few downs per game. Or both guys at once every once in a while, as an interesting gimmick play. It would give defenses more to prepare for, make things harder on opposing DCs. But the bottom line is that it would be a gimmick for a few plays a game, because you want your most dangerous, effective guy on the field all the time. Reports are Jackson ran a 4.34 40 in a private workout. Be interesting to see him set as a WR on the left side, run a jet sweep right and have an option to run or pass. That would put tremendous pressure on one side of the D. It will be really interesting to see what happens with Baltimore. I expect to see Lamar Jackson a few plays a game. And then if he turns out to be better than Flacco, to entirely replace him.

Fine. So that dumb idea means you certainly wouldn't accept Brady as your QB. Or Aaron Rodgers. Or actually any other QB ever in the history of organized football. Find me a QB who hasn't spent 10 - 20 hours off of football in the offseason and then get back to me. There is no such person, nor has there ever been. Again, as I pointed out, Brady has his dumb business and his family. Rodgers has his GF and plays guitar and golfs seriously. There is absolutely nothing to see here, except your apparent Rosen hate.

The story says just for that one Monday. Could turn into something longer term, though, you'd have to guess, if they like Griese better than Rexy.

He's played at a near-elite level several times during his career. Basically when the Giants had a really good lineup around him, particularly a running game. No, he's certainly not elite like a Brady or a Rodgers. But yeah, he consistently has played at a top ten to twelve level when he's had even a decent lineup around him. And top ten to twelve is what you need. Teams with a guy playing at that level stand a real chance at a Lombardi. Eli's good enough to be instrumental in your team winning a Super Bowl. Duh. If anything, he's underrated by many. You'll get guys like that eight or ten or even twelve hours a day, maybe. After that, everyone has other interests. Including Brady, Rodgers, Unitas, Montana, and all the rest. Peyton spends a ton of time on charity and family. Brady on his nutty business and his family. Rodgers on his GF and visiting Sundance as he's a film nut and he plays guitar, and apparently a golf nut also, as the story of his funny remark to Josh Allen showed. Eat ... sleep ... laser focus ... those are the current cliches, and it all sounds terrific, but if it were actual it would be evidence of severe OCD.

The other guy finished his plan and there's no evidence he spent more than 10 or 20 hours on it. Both ways are just fine. If Allen is there, that's great. Where you do the work doesn't really matter, but it sure isn't any kind of disadvantage to be working at OBD instead of at home.

He's good enough. He's not too awkward to play football. But yeah, he might not fit the role the new regime would like him to play. Like Ragland, he might fit another D scheme better. Hope he manages to fit here. It'd be a shame to let another high pick go.

Ah, McDermott? Still way too early to say that he isn't good at evaluating guys on the offense. As you point out, Dawkins so far at least seems like a great pickup, Peterman has been good so far for a fifth-rounder and Zay Jones hasn't done enough as a 2nd rounder, but it's way too early to count out a 2nd year WR. Just doesn't make any sense at all to say that he can't evaluate offensive talent. The worst you could say is that he has spent few resources on the offense and that he would get an incomplete because it's too early to count out anyone yet. And Dawkins looks like a great pick.

6. McDermott's an Aries. Done deal.

Yes, development is going to make or break them ... and pretty much everyone else, really. But yeah, some need a lot more than others. And Allen needs a lot. But no, Allen wasn't a mid-round guy. He was bumped up, but it happened during the season as people saw him play. Here's Jeremiah's pre-2017 look at him. "However, there's a quarterback in the Mountain West Conference who could emerge as the best of the bunch." http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000814722/article/first-look-scouting-wyoming-qb-josh-allen "Allen's anonymity ended almost immediately after the final selection of the 2017 NFL draft was made on April 29, when ESPN reporter Adam Schefter said: "There was one personnel director who told me this week that you can put in the books, Josh Allen will be the No. 1 pick in the NFL draft next year." " http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/20117075/wyoming-cowboys-josh-allen-goes-unknown-no-1-pick-nfl-draft-buzz

They handled him poorly. No question about it. I still don't think he would have ever made it or will make it. But they handled the whole thing poorly. IMHO the problem wasn't that they benched him but that they started him in the first place. He wasn't ready. Should've developed him and worked (and worked and worked) on his mechanics and fundamentals. He was a smart guy and a hard worker. But with problems in his mechanics. Sit guys like that and keep them working on those issues till they're deep in muscle memory. Looks now like he's never going to be starter-caliber, but there's a small chance that with good development he might've.

The person with higher status at the company tends to get the the blame, and rightly so. Yeah, cold climates don't have beautiful women. That's why NYC doesn't have ... um, never mind. It ain't the weather, dude. Go visit Scandinavia if you don't believe me. It's a matter of population and whether young people go there for opportunity and especially for opportunity in fields like acting, modelling, etc. And the women I talk to say the same is true for guys, by the way.

I disagree strongly that Beane has been questionable on offensive player evals. He just hasn't addressed many resources towards the offense. Hasn't had a chance, really, since he became GM in May 2017 after the draft and after most of FA was over. But the guys he has picked up have been OK, particularly for the money he paid them. Kelvin Benjamin was a terrific pickup who looks to be a very good one over a lot of years for the Bills. Travaris Cadet was a good pickup for how little he was paid. Deonte Thompson was paid extremely little and gave them probably more than they paid for. The one decision approaching a major problem he had was trading for Jordan Matthews, and Matthews' ineffectiveness appears to have been as a result of an injury being more serious than the doctors had found, nor was he all that expensive, either. The Bills paid $1.04 mill for him last year against the cap. Where are Beane's massive misses on offense, the guys he paid big money for and got nothing? He's evaluated offensive players just fine as far as we know. He just didn't really address the offense last year in late FA and late trades, which were the only guys on offense he was able to bring in after May. Guys who we have seen play, anyway. We'll start to be able to judge him on offense probably during the 2019 season. That's what happens when you promise the owner that you're going to put the previously horrible cap situation to rights by 2018. You don't get to pick up all the guys you would have maybe liked to.

No. "It became clear the Steelers wanted to pay the position,not the player." - Bell's agent http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/24114399/leveon-bell-pittsburgh-steelers-fail-reach-long-term-deal-ahead-franchise-tag-deadline And that's what smart teams do for RBs. Great player but he will be too expensive. What about a WR making over 14 million per year and averagign 8.2 and 7.7 yards per reception over the last two years and 8.5 for his career. Bell is a very valuable RB. But he's an RB.

https://wgr550.radio.com/media/audio-channel/07-12-schopp-bulldog-hour-3 (around 25:00) Ah, no, you guys were right. It's a continuous bet, $200 every year. So yeah, the key quote is "in the life of the bet," and how long that lasted. Yes, having listened to the program just now, that's what he meant, Super Bowl or Stanley Cup.

I doubt he will get the same offer every year. "... if the football and hockey seasons both end ..." Right? "... the ... both ..." That means two seasons. Not four or six or eight or more. He means this year only, doesn't he? I wouldn't take that bet. Why throw away the $200?

Yes. Or no.

https://www.si.com/nfl/2018/07/12/lesean-mccoy-allegations-home-invasion-domestic-violence-what-we-know "Everything We Know About the Allegations Against LeSean McCoy," by Jenny Vrentas

Fair enough. Let me rephrase. I was amazed to find that he actually was on a roster last year.

I was fascinated to find just now, that he was still in the league. Wow.

Yup. And also totally consistent with a man struggling to put on a glove. I had never seen the video before and was interested enough to go back right now and watch the video. Not buying this argument, or the other argument above that you can see he held his fingers in a difficult position. I'm willing to listen to other arguments. But there's nothing to indicate he faked it. It really did look like the gloves were just too small, which is why the demonstration was so convincing to the jury and the country. Again, I tend to believe he was guilty, but there are a million reasonable arguments on both sides.