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I watched him closely the whole game for as much as I could see in the footage of the live game and this was my take away too. People want to talk about the 2 TD's that couldn't have been any easier for reasons outside of his own abilities but then don't realize he had 1 catch for 12 yards as a starting WR until that free gimme play by the mistake of the Ravens defense that had nothing to do with his abilities. I took him in FanDuel as a great value because he was starting and I know Reid could find a way to get him maybe a big play or two. But, as a starting WR running routes, he was not much of a factor most of the game. But to be fair to Worthy, it was also his first game ever in the NFL too. And that is why I said KC was the absolute perfect landing spot for him because he does not need to be a primary read or high volume target to bring great value to their offense. This year they already have a great mix of talent, size, and speed amongst Kelce, Rice, Brown, and Pacheco to go along with Mahomes ability to make and extend plays with his legs. Having his presence and threat is enough for them without him actually being heavily targeted as a primary read. Especially given they are the most unique, creative, and best team in the league when it comes to play design, confusion, etc.

Don't disagree with that, but Beane has talked extensively about bringing diversity to the WR room and weapons group this year. So if Diggs was still here, the group would still be small and lack toughness. And while they have talked about all those things, I do think they have spoken more about getting more physical, more reliable, bigger, and tougher overall. With Worthy only really bringing speed to the table and a small frame, I actually think had Diggs still been here it further makes Coleman the more likely pick to bring some variance and compliment the group more than another undersized WR. But just my 2 cents, obviously Diggs was gone before the draft, so know way to know for sure

Peoples grades are impacted by what they need. No NFL teams grades players on a generic scale whose grade translates equally to any other teams board. KC did not need a WR1 alpha receiver. Someone looking at Worthy as a WR1 player may not have a first round grade on him in that role. Someone looking at him as a speed component that compliments other receivers will grade him differently in that regard and place a higher grade/value on him than someone else.

Lets not pretend every teams draft needs and strategy is the same to where "Reid and Veach disagreed" with Beanes. KC didn't need a WR1, they had Kelce, Rice, and Brown already...they had the luxury of taking a speed specialist where the 28 other teams who did not take Worthy had different needs, systems, and priorities that kept them from selecting him.

To be honest, even with Diggs here I do not think Worthy would have been the pick, I think it still is Coleman. Beane has talked about how we have been lacking for years that more physical presence and size. He even stated that while Diggs plays with an edge, he still just doesn't have the size and strength either. He went back to when Brown and Cole were here together too in this convo. One thing was clear this year, there was a refocus on getting tougher and more physical after continually watching teams like KC and Cincy be more physical than us in the playoffs, including at home in bad weather. And having smaller guys already around Diggs in Shakir and Samuel, I don't think they would have selected Worthy even if Diggs was still here as it didn't fit what they were trying to do this year.

Respectfully disagree they had intel. Fans think GMs know more than they do in this regard. What they definitely know is more than just them need or want a WR and any team ahead of them…or behind them…can draft one (or move up to draft one) they covet ahead of their pick. And the only way to assure themselves to get said player is make the move to go get him. NE was calling teams to move up at the end of round 1 for example which later the reported rumor was they were after Coleman, but live in the draft they don't know who NE is after. Look at Chicago when they paid a bounty to move up 1 spot swapping picks with SF just to get Trubisky. SF was not going to take a QB, they did that to be sure someone else didn't trade with SF to get Trubisky. KC moved up to insure they got their guy because they felt the cost to do so was worth the price to be sure they got him. Which happens every draft and its why teams move up. If you ever listen to any current or past GM talk about this (and even Beane did too after this draft when discussing KC taking Worthy), the GM's never disclose the player they are after in those trade conversations.

My wife is a die hard Niners fan, we follow the team closely and a buddy of hers she went to HS with works for the Niners organization. From everything I heard Pearsall was their guy all the way, it was who they felt fit their scheme and I am pretty confident Worthy wouldn’t have been the pick even if he was on the board. I mean anything is possible though, but I doubt they would have done anything different.

I’m not worried about Worthy’s game…but this was legit funny when I saw it on twitter

If that was Josh Allen it’s all anyone would talk about, this miss to Flowers. Because it’s Lamar, they are going to forget about that and talk about how great he was and unlucky he was with the toe.

Great way to open the season though

Not gonna count…wow

WOWWWWWWW

I don’t know about real life, my guy was talking about working with him on the broadcasts.

I thought the same at first, but replay looks like he was

I’ve never come across anyone who didn’t hate him…can’t understand how he has a job. More puzzling is my friend who used to work on the broadcasts said he is an absolute douche off camera too where most people on the crew can’t stand working with him.

Yeah…week 1, in KC, against Mahomes…I think you go for 2 also

I was referring to your nonsense comment about beating press coverage when it was a free release and broken coverage…pay attention.

Score here…XP or go for 2?

Punt God melt down inbound

KC doesn’t win the SB last year without their all pro DT…nor reach it.

Post of the night 👏

Not really what the board said though. And he didn’t beat press coverage, he got a few release by a CB who thought he had help behind on a broken play where he didn’t even have to run fast to score.

That’s too much logic for the pitch fork and doom and gloom crowds.

Yeah, Brown was supposedly Mahomes favorite target in camp as they were clicking. But it was camp, so you never know, but sure sounded like Brown and Mahomes were forming chemistry and could factor in a lot.

Yet you’re disputing it with your own fake analysis then? Lmao Let me rephrase…In the footage available I’ve seen him struggle to get open on some plays while you are tap dancing on a broken play where the CB gave him a free release and pretending he beat press coverage which wasn’t the case. But hey, why talk to facts when you can just say what ever you want right?