GaryPinC

Good for Pence. Lead by example. It's the quickest way back to normal.

No, it doesn't. Read the language more carefully. The ref is under the upright looking up. The ball spins. If he sees any part outside the post, even if most of it is straight over the post then the kick is no good. Einstein's right. Nope, with all respect, that is not the wording of the rule. Please read more carefully. No part of the ball can be visible outside the upright to the ref underneath as it passes.

Here's the rule snippet: (c) The entire ball must pass through the vertical plane of the goal, which is the area above the crossbar and between the uprights or, if above the uprights, between their outside edges. If the ball passes through the goal, and returns through the goal without striking the ground or some object or person beyond the goal, the attempt is unsuccessful. I know it was close, but I felt like part of the ball was beyond the outside edge. The rule makes sense from the point that the ref is directly beneath the post looking up.

For me that 49ers game was crucial to our development. I think the 9ers planned to physically dominate us and after that first drive and our injuries I was seriously worried. But we really rose to the occasion and physically handled them. Set us up for a deeper playoff run IMO.

I also felt like the Steelers backed off a bit after halftime with their blitzes and stunts. Anyone else notice that or just me? I saw the kick as passing mostly over the post. Has to be clearly inside the post so I agree with the refs.

How about you realize it isn't that simple? How about you listen to some real stories and understand there's a big problem here for many? It's a complex problem, where people who have every intention of paying their loans don't have the means when they finish. Then there's the kids who have a high school diploma on paper but the school failed them and pushed them out. They get hard-sold hope at a for-profit college and when they fail out now they have the government coming after them for a ton of money. Myself, I'm saying get creative in repaying these loans and also fix the federal loan repayment system.

Good discussion on a great topic. I'm 50 and beyond the student loans but my ex wife I think still pays at 50. My daughter will start college next fall. First, you cannot do blanket forgiveness, because it teaches irresponsibility to the former students and to the higher education schools. The entire process of going to a place of higher education is them figuring out how much money they can drain from you legally and sometimes illegally. Blanket forgiveness will boomerang into new problems. Targeted forgiveness of terms and dollars is the way to go. Second, in the current system, if you're not going to reform the tuition system significantly, the government needs to have a much more structured plan post-education administered by well paid and trained people who are going to empower former students. Here are some of the main problems beyond the compounding cost of college education I see. Drop-outs. Degrees and communities with lower wages making repayment almost impossible. For-profit colleges that exploit poorer students. Over-emphasis on college education out of high school. Lack of cohesive plan of post education repayment with helpful people. My personal experiences:. Paid loans off in 9 years for my BS in biochemistry. Ex-wife defaulted on her loans and I spent the entirety of our marriage (12 years) paying on it to get it back down to the original principal. Calculated we already payed back original principal, interest +$1500 and default fees ($3200). She had been paying for 4 when we met. Ex-wife worked as instructor at for-profit college that recruited and targeted inner city kids knowing full well most would fail. The goal was simply to milk them for as much federal money as possible until they quit or graduated. Solutions:. 1. Emphasize viability of trade schools in HS. Emphasize motivation and goals for college education. 2. Drop-outs have to repay loans, but this group should get the most forgiveness contingent on volunteerism and career, personal and financial counseling. 3. System of volunteerism for any post-college student in conjunction with businesses to work off college loans in spare time. Including online tasks. 4. Defaulted loans:. Legal summons to emphasize seriousness. Waiver of penalty fees after demonstrated period of dependable payments. Restructuring of loan terms. Helpful, well-trained people. 5. Caps on how much is owed once original principal + interest has been repayed. Sorry for the length of this, too many opinions!😉

It wasn't simply a fumble close to the endzone. Moss reached forward to grab the ball instead of waiting and closing his hands on it as it hit his mid-section. The ball shanked forward off his outstretched hand. I guarantee you that's not what Allen was expecting. That's not how you receive a handoff at any level of football, let-alone the NFL. One of the announcers even picked up on it and mentioned it. Bush-league mistake at a critical moment of a big game. The big question is, was this a one-off, or an intermittent habit the coaches have been trying to correct? If a habit, then I totally agree with McD. What you're saying is true, but I don't think Moss is that consistent at picking up short yards yet, and Motor did score on a toss sweep. Between him and McKenzie, we had more luck getting to the edge then running inside on short yardage situations in this game. Beyond that, when they did put Moss back in for a short yardage down fourth quarter, he got tackled behind the line. I'm going to trust McD on this one. Minimal damage done. The goal-to-go situation you refer to there were penalties and more mistakes that backed us up quickly. I doubt Moss would have made a difference.

I have a good friend who is a Steelers fan and my impression is they have no appreciation of, or faith in, the quality of their franchise. Even in their strongest years fans like to b*tch about stupid things and believe the team isn't much good. Constantly thinking they're going to lose a game. I wonder how many of their fans actually enjoy rooting for them because by all appearances my friend doesn't. The misery seems to outpace the joy. To each his own, I guess.

He's in the neighborhood but rarely at the house. SF has been picking on him all game, seems like every down field completion is his assignment.

That was a huge, huge turnover. I agree it hurts the team but motor's playing well enough.

That was a bush-league fumble he had though. I think he's in the dog house.

Part of it may be because it will take some time after the second injection for the body to develop a full, lasting immune response. For instance, it may take a full 4 weeks to develop the response after taking the first dose, including the second two weeks later. Then we don't fully know yet how long it will last. I'm sure they'll put out a plan and explain why.

See my response just above to Warcodered. Hopefully this thread will get going in the next couple weeks as the vaccine becomes available.

Yes, but putting this out there creates issues and the thread or two out there are tightly restricted. I'd rather have it here in an open format so info can be freely shared.

That's really the big question that I haven't seen an answer to, will there be a follow-on shipment of second round dosings or do these cover half the patients?

Hello, starting this thread to discuss vaccine type, dosing, side effects, logistics, etc. A resource as we all look to decide on getting the vaccine. Please keep politics or anti/pro crusading out. I'd just share info about getting the vaccine, either personally or from someone you know. I'm in research at a Cleveland hospital but I work with a couple ER docs so I should be able to contribute pretty soon. We are getting 1000 doses of the Pfizer vaccine supposedly on the 15th. We employ 7000 so I won't be on the list to get it anytime soon. Here's also some info about it relayed to me: Next Friday, FDA meeting on Pfizer EUA and then ODH will announce shipment if approved. First dose well tolerated / second is potential flu like symptoms so will have to work on how this will be managed and could be staggered dosing once we know more Cohort groups will be prioritized [Additional information, not part of meeting with Dyad. Vaccines – the Pfizer vaccine in the trial had fatigue in 3.8% and headache in 2%. Fewer than 2% of the recipients had high fever that may prevent a person from working. Most such side effects subsided within 12 hours (Summary in Science by Meredith Waldman, Nov 27, 2020). Therefore, although we need to warn recipients of potential side effects to prevent panic and enhance trust, the actual rate of notable side effects is low.]

Cool, going to start a thread for it.

I'd appreciate it if you post which one she gets and how the side effects are. TIA.

You're clearly bringing your own hatred, way to assume hatred in this response. Focus on what you can control and maybe others will follow suit. The people who moved "over there" used to mock leftists for their safe spaces and need for bubbles to deny reality. Now they've become the right wing version of exactly that. Go ahead and glorify it.

Um, no. That'd be Steelers fans.

Now there is this: https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/371 If two or more persons conspire either to commit any offense against the United States, or to defraud the United States, or any agency thereof in any manner or for any purpose, and one or more of such persons do any act to effect the object of the conspiracy, each shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years, or both. It sounds to me it's not just an action, but it has to actually effect, in this case, the investigation. Good luck with that. And simply conspiring to commit a crime is not a crime.

And I am certainly not well versed in law. But could you tell me who the other conspirators are and what provable actions they actually committed? Also, given per Mueller, obstruction of the investigation was never committed, so will whatever Trump et al. might get proven guilty of be a substantial enough sentence to make the effort worthwhile?

No. Trump talked about robbing a bank. It appears he may have been engaged in some activities to support a plan to rob the bank but in the end the bank itself said they were never robbed. I understand it appears different to me than you, but at the end of the day do you really believe it's worth the time, money, and effort to try and prove beyond a doubt Trump subjectively crossed a line and committed a crime? Honestly after all the money and effort spent on the report, suspicion of or attempted obstruction was the best they could do to appease the left and show some kind of result. I get that Trump is a slime ball but let SDNY take him out, it's the best chance. Stop wasting the nation's time trying to split hairs on him.

Just highlighting the important words that show you this was subjective opinion and nothing substantiative. IIRC, at least once of these incidents was him spouting off to Tillerson, who shot him down and that was the end of it. Just frustrated bluster. Also I believe in testimony Mueller stated that the investigation was never obstructed that he knew of. The left should follow Biden's wisdom and let Trump go on this subject. People here want the right to be open to changing their opinion, then they drag this Mueller report up? Other than Jr. meeting with the Russian lawyer over potential Hillary dirt there was nothing there. And totally disingenuous and subjective to cry about it given the Steele dossier and it's role in the FISA violations. Every American should be deeply concerned about the abuse of the FISA system here.