TheChimp

I think the pro-Vick folks on the board should at least know this: If it weren't for Vick's brutal off-the-field crap and his completely unapologetic nature towards it afterwards, I'd probably still be arguing for him to come here and help this team win. Because I was one of his biggest fans. I don't care if you believe that or not, it's true.

Oh so now the world would be better off without MY ilk and instead populated by more of Mike Vick's ilk. Yeah, you get down with your bad self, bro. See how he spins it? I hate humanity because I love animals. Apparently, in this poor slob's universe, I can only make one choice, like so many TBD Polls. So dogfighting isn't even close to evil, in your opinion. You're only a small step away from Hitler Youth, and I feel sorry for your offspring.

Thing is, so are our receivers. None of them get open, pretty much ever. Combine that with a QB who acts like he's been contacted by the Mob who told him that if he throws an INT they'll start cutting off his family's fingers, and yes, that highly offensive line of his, and you have 0-16. Maybe with Fitz we'll win enough games to go 4-12 and lose the #1 pick yet again. Yeah, awesome idea.

No fair, there wasn't an option for negative yards. I predict an even worse performance from our *giggle* Offensive Line and at least 10 sacks against Fitz/Brohm.

Lynch still being a Bill today only means that Nix is as bad a GM as Darcy Regier. Other teams' premier RBs are dropping like flies and we can't take advantage of that and get something for one of ours? Really?

Strange, I read the article and agreed with everything Sully said. Thanks for the link!

See how angry they get at those who don't condone Vick's behavior? It is as I said in another thread. They will say anything to demean and demoralize those of us who would have a world without wanton torture, even of the animals that are destined for our tables, because they simply don't understand why we care. And it angers them that they know we judge them because they don't. They can't quite get themselves to admit that if they stumbled upon a dogfighting operation in their neighborhood, they'd probably participate in it themselves, and even the ones who claim to be "animal lovers themselves", if questioned properly would more than likely admit that their "love" of their pets falls into about the same realm as their love of their favorite couch or coffee table book.

If the GM and coach were REALLY treating this like a rebuilding year, we'd have traded Lee Evans and Marshawn Lynch already for some real help on EITHER of our Lines.

Ownership won't feel any abuse so long as it's coming from people who forked over the $400 to get their family in the seats on Sunday. ChaCHING.

Basically what the article's existence proves is that this world is composed of more people who hate animal protectors than those who hate animal torturers. If we treated sick, abusive human beings the same way we treat those who stand up for the rights of the defenseless, the sheer weight of such a change would spin the earth directly off its axis. We are a cruel, hateful, and most importantly lazy species who is fascinated and enthralled by its most heinous members and simultaneously seeking out our weakest members to harass and emulate our monstrous heroes with. Face it, what Mike Vick did, about 80-90% of this human species has absolutely no problem with, in fact you wanna see pictures of it. The rest of us find ourselves trapped here with you.

OK. Your talent as a spin doctor are not very good. Vick is a despicable human being, and anyone who even passively condones his behavior, for which he has still offered NO apologies or penance, in my opinion is capable of doing exactly what he did and should get hit by the same bus. How's that?

Trouble is, the chances that said defender is also involved in dogfighting is much higher than the chances that he's some avid animal lover or even a decent human being. Sorry, Mike Vick was just the guy that got caught. Guaranteed, there are dozens of other NFLers who are fighting dogs right now, as we sit here and type.

Wow, this was a fascinating !@#$ing read.

Nailed it.

I would have liked to see Brohm, as well. So far, this Gailey guy isn't looking all that much smarter than Jauron did, in my opinion. Not a bit smarter.

You're a Bills talent scout, admit it.

That's what sucks about this. Ralph the old !@#$ that he is fell asleep on his club and about the time he hired Marv he SHOULD have actually hired someone who KNEW what the !@#$ to do with this team. I agree, this team is a good five years away from not sucking. But I think we can all rest assured at getting the first pick these next two years, so that will help all by itself. So long as Chan and Buddy were the guys we needed to draft the right people for once. Let us all pray...

Thanks for the read. Sully always seems to echo what I'm feeling, and this article is no exception.

Evans is useless with the QBs we have and would fetch the absolute MOST in a trade, compared to everybody else on our offense. Followed directly by Lynch. They both would need to go if we really wanted the team to get better fast, as backwards as that might sound to you.

Best idea for Lee yet. What do you think the Vikes would give us, though? Think they're desperate enough to give us a first and say a 4th or 5th?

Yes.

best post ever on the subject.

Because we need so many O-Linemen (basically all positions including Tight End) if we're ever going to start the long climb out of the cellar, the only guy I'd keep from our offense would be Spiller. Which ever of them can't be traded I'd just waive and start over.

THIS