High Mark

yea Snead was never any good ever, so Simms I guess? One guy I always really liked was Jarrett Brown. He had everything you look for physically, but only had one yr of starting experience behind Pat White. He went undrafted and has hopped around a couple of teams practice squads so he mus not have it mentally. I would love to see what Chan can do with him ( hes a pretty mobile dude). He wouldnt be any worse than Levi Brown.

I used to like the idea of Wilkerson. I never saw him play so I youtubed him. Its only one video of one game, but he looked like poopy. Im not sure what to think of him now.

I say we take the sure-thing pick that is also going to be super dominant. I see Fairley and Jordan in that light. Exactly. McShay is a nobody.

New England - from Oakland (8-8) San Diego (9-7) New York Giants (10-6) Kansas City* (10-6) Philadelphia* (10-6) New Orleans* (11-5) Baltimore* (12-4) Atlanta* (13-3) New England* (14-2) New York Jets* (11-5) Pittsburgh* (12-4) Green Bay* (10-6) And NE again Phil Taylor won't last till our second. I could see a couple DL(Heyward, Clayborn, Austin), OL(Pouncy, Sherrod, Cannon, Carpenter), and LBs (Wilson, Houston, Reed) being available. Rudolph could be the pick too but Chan doesnt have a history with using TEs so maybe not. I don't think QB will be the pick. That is simply because Chan does like Fitz and I dont see how any of these guys could be an upgrade as early as 2012 (when Fitz contract is up). I see it as adding a backup QB v adding a starting DL or OL player. I choose starting DL/OL, and I bet Chan/Nix do to because they need to compete sooner rather than later. It will prob be some guy we have never heard though.

I would jump for joy if we took Jordan or Watt at 3. Obviously We could trade back to 9ish and still get one of those two (or fairley or Dareus or Quinn) I think that is best case scenario - to move down and add one of them, but even at 3 I think we get a great player at an important position.

I hope Pegula buys the Bills sooner rather than later. Before this draft would be nice.

I agree, I wish I could find it but in one of the TG articles he quotes gailey about hypothetically trading down to 9, call me simple but I think we will be trading with Dallas. They need help in the secondary and I bet they jump up to nad Peterson. Looking at the trade value chart, to move up to three (worth 2200 points) Dallas would have to give up their #1(9th overall) 2nd (8th in the 2nd) 3rd (7th in the 3rd) 4th (13th in the 4th) AND 5th(12th in the 5th). Thats obsurd. That trade chart is totally out of whack. It obviously will depend on who is left for us to take, but I would drop back to 9 and be OK with only taking their 2nd. I would ask for more if N. Suh was sitting there but I dont see any player in this class that I wouldnt miss out on for adding another high second. I found it, here it is: The Buffalo Bills' preparations for their first-round draft choice won't be as easy as 1-2-3. They own the third overall selection. One might think they'll only need to identify three franchise players they'd be satisfied with, accounting for the prospects who'd be taken first and second. "That's a very simplistic way to put it, and that is very true," Bills coach Chan Gailey said Tuesday at the NFL owners meeting in New Orleans. "But you've got to have the whole thing worked out because if somebody calls you in that 15 minutes with an offer you can't refuse and gives you No. 9, you better have nine." http://espn.go.com/blog/nflnation/post/_/id/38863/no-fireworks-allowed-in-buffalos-draft-room *He also said they have 15 minutes, lets hope they figured that out Merriman was a 1st round pick. I think it was 12th overall with out looking.

To keep it as simple as I can, I just don't feel like Miller's game translates to the NFL. You don't see him do things in college that good NFL players do. He doesnt fight off blocks. He never beats defenders with strength. He never shortens his arc to the QB by getting into the OT. I jsut don't see how he will be any good at rushing the passer if he can't get off blocks or compete physically with the OT. There are countless players like him who have come to the NFL and not succeeded. He is going to be like a blitzing BD. if he was a 4-3 WILL it would be a different story but if we draft him thats not what we are expecting of him long term.

Fairley was extremely disruptive all season. He is tall (6’4’’) and has long arms (34 3/4'”) and is 290-300lbs. That’s ideal size for a 5 tech. I feel like he has a lot of room to grow into his body too. He also has elite feet for a D Lineman (so does Dareus FWIF). I am confident enough in his athleticism that he could play LDE in a 4-3 too (with Troupe and KW inside). I love his mean streak. He has been my favorite since November. The 1 year wonder stuff doesn’t bother me either. Per Colman he only played DL for his SR yr in HS (was an OT before) and went to JuCo for his freshman year. He played a lot his first year at Auburn, and from what I have heard from Tiger fans is that he should have played a lot more than he did that season. It is not rare for it to just “click” for a player and have him come out of nowhere, especially in SEC football. I see Fairley as a perennial all-pro type lineman and if I had the 1st overall pick I would select him without thinking twice. He dominated 2 and 3 blockers on each and every snap. He also showed incredible agility and play recognition in that championship game and Imo was the MVP of the game.

This may sound silly but I think that drafting BPA is dumb all the time. It assumes that yoru scouting is 100% to succeed. I find that very arbitrary. That is because I feel ranking players in a list of 1-250 is arbitrary (it simply cannot be done accurately enough), so any strategy based off of that ranking must then also be arbitrary. The Bills are at 3. Hypothetically they could have mark Ingram as the #1 rated player on their board, yet Dareus is 4th and Cam Newton is 5th. They take Ingram who is BPA. Well that doesn’t help your team – so Ingram is not the BPA *for your team*. In that sense he isn’t even the BPA. Secondly, who is to say that after a 12 year career, your rankings weren’t the slightest bit off – and Dareus turns out to be better than Ingram? Well if you drafted for need – then you would have gotten the better player too! Why not risk taking the player who is better for your team rather than just better – when history tells you the rankings are more wrong than they are right anyways? It’s a lower risk to improve your team My thinking is that a tiered system is a much better ranking system than a linear list. You keep your tiers fixed and fit players in each class into those levels. Last year the “elite” level would have prob had Suh and Bradford and maybe Eric Berry. This year it could be Dareus, Fairley, Peterson, AJ Green. The next tier down last year could have had Bulaga, and Spiller among others. Even though you have Spiller on your linear board ranked say 12 spots higher, the two of them are still in the same tier. The drafting rule should be take a player in your highest occupied tier, and take the position you need the most out of that tier. That should help find a better balance between need and quality, and also help minimize evaluation mistakes and maximize team improvement. Kinda like dollar-cost averaging in the stock market - its a more stable approach. That’s my strategy.

I hate Jake Locker (not as a man, he’s probably a really nice guy, but as a potential Bills draft selection) because I watched the games and saw how much he sucked. I have no idea what his stats are and honestly don’t care.

Round 1: Best D lineman Round 2: Best DL/OL/LB or TE Rounds 3-7: Repeat round 2.

Yes its mainly in jest - its a dooms day draft scenario, its supposed to be worst case scenario. Worst case would be drafting Miller and have him turning out to be like Maybin. It would suck to draft a good CB, have him not make the active roster, the pats swoop in and steal him from us, then he gets INTs vrs us. I dont care what school guys come from I added that in there because we draft guys from out of no where and if its one of the last picks in the draft they turn out to be good.

I go on to clarify that grading on statisitcal production is stupid, while football production is not, something you seem to still not comprehend. And I also admitted my stupidity in listing the wrong teams. My memory is not perfect, I knew I had watched a handful of his games. I couldnt remember which ones specifically, so I googled his schedule. When I clicked the link for 2010, 2011 came up. I listed the teams i thought I had seen kinda confused like because the bells werent ringing. When bandit pointe dout my error I realized what had happened and admitted it. Yet still, you dont admit there is a difference in football production and statistical production. I forgot the Grahm Harrel, Chase Daniels, and Colt Brennan were all #1 overall picks.

No, I told you evaluating a player based on stats was the worst idea ever. It seems you still can't tell the difference.

Most people have made it known who they want the bills to draft, but what about your worst-case scenarios that may actually pan out? Who are the picks that you would hate to see happen? Mine are as follows: 1- Von Miller, worst player being talked about as a top 10 pick. He cant stop the run or rush the passer and is a total worthless bust like maybin that teh FO refuses to cut because they cannot admit how terrible they are. 2- Nate Solder, the T out there being talked about as good but he obviously is not. He never starts and is horrible and outplayed by some undrafted guy and released in 2 years like Hardy 2- the Bills trade up for Jake Locker. He is a horrible and sucks and we all know it. If you evaulated his play he is an undraftable prospect, but since his name is Jake Locker, people think he is the staeal of the draft in the middle of the 2nd round. The Bills trade their 3rd and both 4ths to move up. He backs up Fitz in 2011, then fitz walks as a FA after the season is up and Locker is handed the starting job like Losman was. (the Bills also pass on drafting Andrew Luck in 2012 becase they believe Locker is their man!) Locker cannot hold Losmans jockstrap and is so bad he is benched during his 4th start and then released in the offseason. He posts a completion % of 34% with 10 TOs and 1 TD in his 3 1/2 games as starter 5- the running back from Cuse, Delone Carter, who is actually good and beats out Spiller for the starting spot for Jackson after this season because he is 35. Jackson is then the backup RB and Spiller is 3rd string and backup punt returner. This is a bad pick because it means Spiller was a waste lol. 6 - some CB who is actually pretty good but we have too many CBs because we always draft too many and this guy is put on the PS only to be signed by the Pats and starts for them in the nickle, intercepting Jake Locker 2 times lol 7- starting ILB from some school no one has heard of. Sounds like a Buffalo draft to me.

The guys from Buffalo Rumblings (particularly the Gulliford guy) are quite possibly the dumbest people writing draft articles on the internet. I cant think of anything of theirs I have ever read that displayed any type of football knowledge. This includes their huge love fest for Aaron Maybin pre-draft. Whats worse is that site convinces other 8th grade weenies to like the terrible players they endorse, which only creates more uneducated, uninformed fans, because the site is portrayed like a legitimate source for draft information. Who is Coach Sal anyways?

Have you seen the documentary? He grew up on a huge farm and trains by pushing trucks down the road and swinging sledge hammers against trees….. Not sure if its an uppity community, but I’d call being a rancher and sledge hammering trees pretty blue collar.

Really? I caught them all (his starts, not the Raiders game) and I was really impressed. I knew he had a strong arm but he made some throws on the move that only a young Brett Favre and Vick could make. He moved in the pocket extremely well too. His deep ball accuracy is also top notch (it was in college too) but his short and mid rang stuff isnt great. That should be easier to fix. I also like that he really is like a running back too - being able to call some QB runs and QB draws is a huge advantage to the offense as a whole and Tebow brings that. He was able convert a couple of 3rd downs with a QB draw and a great run on a zone read play - plays most in the NFL wouldnt even attempt. Thats a big bonus for guys like Tebow or Newton. He had a handful of rushing TDs too that no other Qb could have had. He is a unique talent thats for sure. It was also evident that the team got behind him as a leader - something we havent had since Kelly. Jury is still out, but I'll be suprised if he fails, not the other way around.

Well, I agree. As a guy who always liked Tebow I thought he did better than I expected in his first year. But his stats should not be looked at to say he did or didn’t do well. A lot of his TDs were in special goal lined packages designed for him, and that can throw off his TD/TO percentage. With that said – isn’t that also a reason he was such a valuable prospect? A lot of his yardage was gained on bubble screens and run after the catch. But at the same time Tom Brady rode screen passes to three SB victories and is not a 1st ballot HOFer because of screens. Even if you don’t think Tebow will “Make it” I think most everyone should be impressed with his play. That is assuming you actually watched him play. PS Houston also had the worst passing D in the league last year. If Denver is truely interested in a QB and does in fact draft one then I guess Tebow is on the outs in Denver. BUT - they cant even trade him. So he either A stays with the team and wins the starting job, or B is traded first change Denver gets. i'd love to send a 2nd or 3rd in 2012 to Denver for Tebow.

I love the first 3 rounds. I went Stocker (I ddint know we already took Rudolph but whatever, I would love to add both) Romsius, and Brewer.

Dibs on Denver. When do I have to vote? I've never done this....

his rankings are terrible.

Im suprised you dont like Clayborn or Heyward. They are big guys that produced for a long time. I deff agree with Claybornes conditioning, but he could easily re-dedicate himself. They may not be superstars, but I doubt they disappear like Maybin.

Does Kyle Williams not count? Unless I am stupid 2006 was only 5 years ago... If not for him I'd say it has to be Wood, or maybe Stevie Johnson.