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I have never bashed Dion, and know you weren’t directing that at me. I think Covid and left guard play have almost everything to do with Dion’s production slip. You are a Pats fan on a Bills board. If you don’t like how people here react, I think I can speak for most of us when I say, “why don’t you make like a tree, and get out of here”.

If nothing else, use McKenzie in motion to see what the d is in. Couple fakes and then hit them with one.

Gotcha, yea. I wonder how much the coaches will be thinking about fumbles regarding our backs and who dresses. Pats take the ball away at a good rate. Good point on Gilliam. OR could dress McKenzie and Stevenson. McKenzie returns punts and Stevenson returns kicks. With the weather this might be worth considering.

Pretty sure he is a Pats fan.

what has Moss done to deserve dressing? I get he is suppose to be the physical back, but not so sure his style aligns with how the line blocks well. I Could be way off base.

Star is a little concerning when I also consider what Dion said about Star calling wanting advice about some chest pain. Hope the big man is ok. Doesn’t sound like he had a case as bad as Dion did, overall.

Are you a Cam fan as well?

I trust Joe. He scouts the South East and I believe the ACC in particular. Joe is usually pretty accurate on assessing where players will go in the draft and how their play will translate. This is for depth and incase of injuries.

For me, this is when you use statistics to look at each game to see what occurred. There is usually some concrete contributing factors to what causes the variance. Injuries, lack of performance by key players, breakdowns on plays at a critical point in the game...etc. The Bills can beat anyone in the NFL if both teams play their best game. Not many teams can say that.

You are sounding more and more like a Pats fan if you think Boettger is better than Feliciano. Not to mention your pessimistic view of how Spencer Brown and Starr should help.

Well his comments felt like they were a little emotional and based off one play from the Jets game and the fact Doyle has Covid now. If you do a little research you find out Doyle is very athletic.

Fair enough. I let my own bias come into my statement. Having watched Fromm play his entire college career, I had hopes that maybe Beane knew better than me. Fromm just is extremely limited.

Fair point, I don’t. But what evidence do you see they tried to develop him?

Doyle is exactly the type of player you pick in the 5th round. An athletic player at a premium position that is from a smaller school. Doyle scored a 9.9 on the Relative Athletic Score, Brown scored a 10.0. Doyle needs time to adjust to the speed of the game. He could end up being the starting RT with Brown to LT and Dawkins to LG. Or Doyle is the swing tackle for another year. Doyle will payoff in the long run. Big time.

This could even out the loss of Tre’.

I need to disagree with this. The Bills were never going to invest and develop Jake. They could have used that pick on an interior olineman or a DB. BTW I am a huge UGA fan. Never thought Jake was going to amount to much in the NFL due to his lack of physical traits.

Heck, I’d say Jones gets even more credit due to the team and coach around him. Just like in college. Time will definitely tell the true story. Couple wins by the Bills will also go a long way.

Don’t feed the trolls. If everyone ignored Pats fans, they would go away. Personally I don’t think they add one bit of useful or helpful content to a Bills Board. I know that could be said for a lot of us here but at least we are all pulling for the Bills. Pats fans opinions are biased based solely off the fact they are Pats fans.

100% and that poster is still working off the narrative that Allen is inaccurate. But hey, let’s have other team’s fans post on a Bills board, as long as they are passive aggressive it’s ok.

Great points. Remember, McVay was able to mask Jared Goff for a couple of seasons. Time will tell the true story of Jones.

Just make sure you show up if the Pats lose. I recall last year you took a hiatus after the losses. Be a blowhard all you want on an opposing teams board. But you get zero respect when you don’t show up right after a loss like you surely would after a win.

Yea, I appreciate the effort you are putting in on the breakdown. It is very detailed and can tell you put work into it. Thank you. One take away for me from the discrepancy between how you and Joe B graded Ford is how hard it is to grade anyone, and in particular linemen when you don’t know the assignments for the play. As an outsider you can make assumptions based off first steps or how a play develops, but you both are assuming. It’s so hard to really get it “right”.

@Freddie's Dead, I have to disagree with you on the statement you made saying Joe B has bias towards Ford, he doesn’t. At all. You should listen to his podcasts. Joe B is a fairly straight shooter from what I can tell and has given Ford credit when it’s due. The real and only opinion on Ford that matters is the coaching staff at this point. The fact he can’t crack the starting line after beginning the year there tells me all I need to know about Ford right now.

Correct. The piece that is impossible to assess with 100% certainty is the fortitude of the player to work at their craft to develop that athletic skill into positive tangible results.

Why would you move Johnson? Then become worse at two positions. Look at the oline with the Brown injury.