Magox Posted August 4, 2009 Share Posted August 4, 2009 I gotta hand it to him, he sure does have some charisma http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=206...id=afrahNIYAAbg Aug. 5 (Bloomberg) -- North Korean leader Kim Jong Il pardoned and ordered the release of two jailed U.S. journalists after former President Bill Clinton made a surprise visit to Pyongyang yesterday. Kim granted “a special pardon” to the journalists, who were originally detained in March, the state-run Korean Central News Agency said early today. Clinton apologized to Kim for “the hostile acts” by the women, who were found guilty of entering the country illegally, KCNA said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted August 4, 2009 Share Posted August 4, 2009 I wonder if he promised them another nuclear program in return? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted August 4, 2009 Share Posted August 4, 2009 I gotta hand it to him, he sure does have some charisma But he doesn't have Chroise® Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted August 4, 2009 Share Posted August 4, 2009 But he doesn't have Chroise® Or Hope, or Change, or rainbow-farting unicorns. But charisma he's got. Loads of it. Enough to seduce an immature fat chick, and we all know how much charisma THAT takes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted August 4, 2009 Author Share Posted August 4, 2009 Or Hope, or Change, or rainbow-farting unicorns. But charisma he's got. Loads of it. Enough to seduce an immature fat chick, and we all know how much charisma THAT takes. fat Ho's need love too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dante Posted August 4, 2009 Share Posted August 4, 2009 Truth be known, Korea playing a little politics. Likes the left in the west having at least the perception of success. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted August 4, 2009 Share Posted August 4, 2009 fat Ho's need love too They just have to pay. Giggity Giggity Giggity Goo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted August 4, 2009 Author Share Posted August 4, 2009 They just have to pay. Giggity Giggity Giggity Goo all riiiight!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted August 4, 2009 Share Posted August 4, 2009 Truth be known, Korea playing a little politics. Likes the left in the west having at least the perception of success. I never heard worse sour grapes than this and what Tom said above. Maybe you guys should have said: "Just a trick by those sneaky half nips to make the right look bad." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clinton, Bill Posted August 4, 2009 Share Posted August 4, 2009 I wonder if he promised them another nuclear program in return? Nah. I just offered KJI sloppy seconds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dante Posted August 4, 2009 Share Posted August 4, 2009 I never heard worse sour grapes than this and what Tom said above. Maybe you guys should have said: "Just a trick by those sneaky half nips to make the right look bad." But seriously, do you really think that it mattered who was there? Or that Bill actually made a difference? I would think that the Koreans had their mind made up before they even saw the guy. Like Billy boy is so convincing he can bamboozle and smooth talk lunatic fringe dictators. I think he does great bull$hitting soccer moms and college grads but I think his mystical charms would be lost on the North Korean guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted August 4, 2009 Share Posted August 4, 2009 But seriously, do you really think that it mattered who was there? Or that Bill actually made a difference? I would think that the Koreans had their mind made up before they even saw the guy. Like Billy boy is so convincing he can bamboozle and smooth talk lunatic fringe dictators. I think he does great bull$hitting soccer moms and college grads but I think his mystical charms would be lost on the North Korean guy. They made up their mind before they saw the guy because they knew it was Bill. This article does a pretty good job of describing what happened. http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/wo...0,2496220.story Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted August 5, 2009 Share Posted August 5, 2009 I never heard worse sour grapes than this and what Tom said above. Maybe you guys should have said: "Just a trick by those sneaky half nips to make the right look bad." I've never made it a secret that I dislike Bill Clinton, and loathe his foreign policy, and in no small part due to his "Do whatever you want, just please don't give me a hard time" attitude towards North Korea. But the fact is, Bill Clinton's one of the few people who could have gotten these two women freed, precisely because he's already shown he's willing to lick Kim Jong Il's boots. That I think the women should have been imprisoned isn't sour grapes...it's simply an admission that they knowingly and intentionally broke North Korean law, with full knowledge of the possible penalty. Just because they're Americans does not mean other nations' laws don't apply to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted August 5, 2009 Share Posted August 5, 2009 That I think the women should have been imprisoned isn't sour grapes...it's simply an admission that they knowingly and intentionally broke North Korean law, with full knowledge of the possible penalty. Just because they're Americans does not mean other nations' laws don't apply to them. What are you Jack Kirkpatrick? "Shanna, they bought their tickets, they knew what they were getting into. I say, let 'em crash." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted August 5, 2009 Share Posted August 5, 2009 What are you Jack Kirkpatrick? "Shanna, they bought their tickets, they knew what they were getting into. I say, let 'em crash." So your position is that the laws of soverign nations don't matter, because they're Americans? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted August 5, 2009 Share Posted August 5, 2009 So your position is that the laws of soverign nations don't matter, because they're Americans? No. Yet: Warning: Many may not be able to handle this! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted August 5, 2009 Share Posted August 5, 2009 No. Yet: Warning: Many may not be able to handle this! So...what, you're part of the Great Jewish Conspiracy now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted August 5, 2009 Share Posted August 5, 2009 So...what, you're part of the Great Jewish Conspiracy now? I just thought it was funny... Picture Bill Clinton actting out Moses part and Pharaoh is Kim Jong Il. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fastback Posted August 5, 2009 Share Posted August 5, 2009 I wonder what manbearpig thinks of all this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fingon Posted August 5, 2009 Share Posted August 5, 2009 What did we have to give N. Korea in return? Do you guys really think they are just going to release them with no compensation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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