The_Philster Posted June 28, 2009 Share Posted June 28, 2009 GROSSE POINTE SHORES, Mich. (AP) — Buffalo Bills owner Ralph Wilson is in no hurry to have his team play more than one regular-season game in Toronto. Wilson told the Associated Press on Sunday he'd prefer waiting "two or three years" to determine whether the northern experiment is a success before he'd consider reworking the contract reached last year with Toronto-based Rogers Communications. http://www.usatoday.com/sports/football/nf...n-toronto_N.htm And that's a big F U to Rogers Communications Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delete This Account Posted June 28, 2009 Share Posted June 28, 2009 AP: Wilson says it's premature to consider having Buffalo Bills play additional games in Toronto more to come. jw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delete This Account Posted June 28, 2009 Share Posted June 28, 2009 Philster beat me to it. Lori, you might want to merge threads here. Note, just filed more to this story so should be a writethru out there soon. jw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lori Posted June 28, 2009 Share Posted June 28, 2009 Thanks, JW. Can't wait for the rest of the story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delete This Account Posted June 28, 2009 Share Posted June 28, 2009 the full story and now for the rest of the story. jw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lori Posted June 28, 2009 Share Posted June 28, 2009 Thankee. "I could see why people think that this is just the first step of moving the team. But they don't realize how difficult it is to compete against the Cowboys and all these new stadiums." Ralph knew that unshared revenue would be the bane of small-market teams like the Bills, but nobody wanted to listen when they voted on the 2006 CBA. So how was your trip, if I may ask? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VOR Posted June 28, 2009 Share Posted June 28, 2009 Thankee. Ralph knew that unshared revenue would be the bane of small-market teams like the Bills, but nobody wanted to listen when they voted on the 2006 CBA. But it brought labor peace...[/stupidramblingsofMr.WEO] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jax bill backer Posted June 28, 2009 Share Posted June 28, 2009 this is bull sh--. Ralph Wilson is just trying to keep us Bills fans from freaking out... It wont be long till the Toronto Bills start playing a 16 game season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albany,n.y. Posted June 28, 2009 Share Posted June 28, 2009 GROSSE POINTE SHORES, Mich. (AP) — Buffalo Bills owner Ralph Wilson is in no hurry to have his team play more than one regular-season game in Toronto.Wilson told the Associated Press on Sunday he'd prefer waiting "two or three years" to determine whether the northern experiment is a success before he'd consider reworking the contract reached last year with Toronto-based Rogers Communications. Ralph is a lot more optimistic about his longevity than a lot of people on this board Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glass To The Arson Posted June 28, 2009 Share Posted June 28, 2009 this is bull sh--. Ralph Wilson is just trying to keep us Bills fans from freaking out... It wont be long till the Toronto Bills start playing a 16 game season How is it bull? This is good news. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GR8PRKN Posted June 29, 2009 Share Posted June 29, 2009 Ralph is a lot more optimistic about his longevity than a lot of people on this board Exactly what I was thinking..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toddgurley Posted June 29, 2009 Share Posted June 29, 2009 this is bull sh--. Ralph Wilson is just trying to keep us Bills fans from freaking out... It wont be long till the Toronto Bills start playing a 16 game season If that happens I will not be a Bills fan anymore. c'mon does toronto really care about the Bills like Buffalo does? Not a chance- Besides, the Bills somehow sold 54,000 season tix so far(3rd most in team history I think), not gonna happen in Toronto. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toddgurley Posted June 29, 2009 Share Posted June 29, 2009 How is it bull? This is good news. HUH? how is that good news? Elaborate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whites Bay Posted June 29, 2009 Share Posted June 29, 2009 GROSSE POINTE SHORES, Mich. (AP) — Buffalo Bills owner Ralph Wilson is in no hurry to have his team play more than one regular-season game in Toronto.Wilson told the Associated Press on Sunday he'd prefer waiting "two or three years" to determine whether the northern experiment is a success before he'd consider reworking the contract reached last year with Toronto-based Rogers Communications. http://www.usatoday.com/sports/football/nf...n-toronto_N.htm And that's a big F U to Rogers Communications I'm reminded of the line from "Monty Python and the Holy Grail": "Um, I'm not dead yet......" "Madison Avenue Man" - Greg Kihn Band Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jax bill backer Posted June 29, 2009 Share Posted June 29, 2009 How is it bull? This is good news. your right it is very good news.. But what about long term. How is the economy of Buffalo and Ralph Wilson going to be able to keep this team here. Jim kelly has been jerking the Buffalo people of Buffalo by telling us " I got people." What people Jim. If you have people you need to tell us who they are so we can stop worring. But of course the reason why he wont tell the people of buffalo who the potential ownwers are is because he dosent have anything. And I love how ralph wilson keeps beating around the bush with his stupid comments. Why don they just move the team now instead of waiting another five years.. The thing is I can see the day when I wake up and at the bottom of espn it says " Bills relocate to Toronto". So do us all a favor Ralph and Jim shut the !@#$ up and just give us the truth instead of making false promises. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKOOBY Posted June 29, 2009 Share Posted June 29, 2009 Ralph is trying to tell us his plan, Buffalo is home to the Bills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whites Bay Posted June 29, 2009 Share Posted June 29, 2009 your right it is very good news.. But what about long term. How is the economy of Buffalo and Ralph Wilson going to be able to keep this team here. Jim kelly has been jerking the Buffalo people of Buffalo by telling us " I got people." What people Jim. If you have people you need to tell us who they are so we can stop worring. But of course the reason why he wont tell the people of buffalo who the potential ownwers are is because he dosent have anything. And I love how ralph wilson keeps beating around the bush with his stupid comments. Why don they just move the team now instead of waiting another five years.. The thing is I can see the day when I wake up and at the bottom of espn it says " Bills relocate to Toronto". So do us all a favor Ralph and Jim shut the !@#$ up and just give us the truth instead of making false promises. Your passion is commendable. I don't know if Kelly has an ace up his sleeve, or whether he's blowing smoke up 10,000,000 collective rectae, including yours and mine. My guess, and it's only a guess, is that someone with Kelly's ego, drive and passion isn't going to have mouthed off as much as he's mouthed off without having one or two bullets in the gun. Who knows? Perhaps he needs three or four bullets in the gun, and as such perhaps should have kept his mouth shut. But in matters like this, the LAST thing he's going to do - and, quite frankly, the last thing I'D do - is give someone like you, me, or anyone else on this board ANY inkling of what I planned to do simply so that Jax Bill Backer can sleep a little better at night. Believe me, your angst and insomnia is YOUR problem, not his. Fasten your seat belt, enjoy the ride, and wish Mr. Kelly all the best. The karma you bring may keep the Bills in Buffalo. "Digging in the dirt" - Peter Gabriel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jax bill backer Posted June 29, 2009 Share Posted June 29, 2009 I thought years ago that people comming from canada to america to watch football was the greatest thing that ever happened to the NFL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SABURZFAN Posted June 29, 2009 Share Posted June 29, 2009 just wait until his "tin cup" gets empty. the Old Fart will jump at a bid to fill it back up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tcali Posted June 29, 2009 Share Posted June 29, 2009 this is bull sh--. Ralph Wilson is just trying to keep us Bills fans from freaking out... It wont be long till the Toronto Bills start playing a 16 game season no big deal. just like watching your wife have sex on tv with the next door neighbor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fingon Posted June 29, 2009 Share Posted June 29, 2009 YEAH, NO WAY THE BILLS MOVE TO TORONTO. THERE ARE WAY TOO MANY LEGAL AND ECONOMIC ISSUES FOR IT TO HAPPEN. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkady Renko Posted June 29, 2009 Share Posted June 29, 2009 How is it bull? This is good news. Jax wants the Bills to move to Toronto because he believes that the team playing in Toronto is pretty much the same as playing in Buffalo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VOR Posted June 29, 2009 Share Posted June 29, 2009 Jax wants the Bills to move to Toronto because he believes that the team playing in Toronto is pretty much the same as playing in Buffalo. No, he wants the Bills to move there because he knows that the Jaguars are going to be leaving town soon and Toronto is a prime destination. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EndZoneCrew Posted June 29, 2009 Share Posted June 29, 2009 Jax wants the Bills to move to Toronto because he believes that the team playing in Toronto is pretty much the same as playing in Buffalo. Jax<RJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delete This Account Posted June 29, 2009 Share Posted June 29, 2009 just wait until his "tin cup" gets empty. the Old Fart will jump at a bid to fill it back up. and this is because Mr. Wilson jumped at all the opportunities to relocate the team? oh, wait, it's still in Orchard Park ... right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Philster Posted June 29, 2009 Author Share Posted June 29, 2009 and this is because Mr. Wilson jumped at all the opportunities to relocate the team? oh, wait, it's still in Orchard Park ... right. don't waste your time...SAB has had a pathological hatred for Ralph for as long as I can recall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delete This Account Posted June 29, 2009 Share Posted June 29, 2009 Thankee. Ralph knew that unshared revenue would be the bane of small-market teams like the Bills, but nobody wanted to listen when they voted on the 2006 CBA. So how was your trip, if I may ask? trip was good. made a stop in windsor, which is where i'm writing this, to see my family at my mom's place. she had an impromptu get together, with my brothers' and their families over so it was a nice trip so far, but a very long day. can't really get into too many details as there's stuff i'm holding on to for several upcoming features. that said, Mr. Wilson was in a very good mood and as upbeat as i've usually known him to be. obviously, this was the "news" that came out of our chat, but i was struck by Mr. Wilson's response regarding how he's sure the Toronto group wants another game, but wasn't sure if that was going to materialize. of course he didn't say no. but he did say no, when specifically asked if one of the factors was an expanded regular season. and, as noted in story, there are lingering questions over whether the Toronto organizers can improve upon their delivery. and they'll be in the spotlight this season with a thursday-nighter, of course. jw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VOR Posted June 29, 2009 Share Posted June 29, 2009 don't waste your time...SAB has had a pathological hatred for Ralph for as long as I can recall Has he started hating Golisano yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VOR Posted June 29, 2009 Share Posted June 29, 2009 and this is because Mr. Wilson jumped at all the opportunities to relocate the team? oh, wait, it's still in Orchard Park ... right. Do you know of any specific opportunities he's had? I figure that any of the expansion cities over the last 20 years or so were potential destinations for him that he never seriously considered, but I've never heard of anything concrete. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Philster Posted June 29, 2009 Author Share Posted June 29, 2009 and, as noted in story, there are lingering questions over whether the Toronto organizers can improve upon their delivery. and they'll be in the spotlight this season with a thursday-nighter, of course. jw One thing they need to do to improve the delivery would be to change the no-tailgating laws Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKOOBY Posted June 29, 2009 Share Posted June 29, 2009 just wait until his "tin cup" gets empty. the Old Fart will jump at a bid to fill it back up. That's the first thing I thought as well, it's all hands off until another $70 M carrot gets dangled, then it becomes in the teams best interest. I fully see your side and how most folks would do that but in this rare instance and because of recent information explained to me, Ralph plans on getting a buyer in line soon. I would plan on hearing news about Ralph's change of heart, it should be out later this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Philster Posted June 29, 2009 Author Share Posted June 29, 2009 Do you know of any specific opportunities he's had? I figure that any of the expansion cities over the last 20 years or so were potential destinations for him that he never seriously considered, but I've never heard of anything concrete. Seattle in the early 70s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delete This Account Posted June 29, 2009 Share Posted June 29, 2009 don't waste your time...SAB has had a pathological hatred for Ralph for as long as I can recall thanks. why there is so much pent-up hatred on this board is beyond me. obviously, i deal with players and owners and coaches for a living, but i can't say i develop any real hatred for any of them. some i might root against when they're playing, but not to the degree of "hate." and i hope i never reach that level where it becomes personal. remember, this is sports not cancer research. jw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VOR Posted June 29, 2009 Share Posted June 29, 2009 thanks. why there is so much pent-up hatred on this board is beyond me. obviously, i deal with players and owners and coaches for a living, but i can't say i develop any real hatred for any of them. some i might root against when they're playing, but not to the degree of "hate."and i hope i never reach that level where it becomes personal. remember, this is sports not cancer research. jw Some people feel that Ralph "owes" them something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted June 29, 2009 Share Posted June 29, 2009 this is bull sh--. Ralph Wilson is just trying to keep us Bills fans from freaking out... It wont be long till the Toronto Bills start playing a 16 game season Whatever dude. Of course if Ralph said he was open to more games in Canada you'd believe that. Only believe what you want. PTR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jax bill backer Posted June 29, 2009 Share Posted June 29, 2009 Jax wants the Bills to move to Toronto because he believes that the team playing in Toronto is pretty much the same as playing in Buffalo. that would be awsome if jacksonville moved to Toronto... But I dont see them moving Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VOR Posted June 29, 2009 Share Posted June 29, 2009 that would be awsome if jacksonville moved to Toronto... But I dont see them moving Doesn't matter if you see it; they're moving, and sooner, rather than later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lori Posted June 29, 2009 Share Posted June 29, 2009 trip was good. made a stop in windsor, which is where i'm writing this, to see my family at my mom's place. she had an impromptu get together, with my brothers' and their families over so it was a nice trip so far, but a very long day.can't really get into too many details as there's stuff i'm holding on to for several upcoming features. that said, Mr. Wilson was in a very good mood and as upbeat as i've usually known him to be. obviously, this was the "news" that came out of our chat, but i was struck by Mr. Wilson's response regarding how he's sure the Toronto group wants another game, but wasn't sure if that was going to materialize. of course he didn't say no. but he did say no, when specifically asked if one of the factors was an expanded regular season. and, as noted in story, there are lingering questions over whether the Toronto organizers can improve upon their delivery. and they'll be in the spotlight this season with a thursday-nighter, of course. jw FWIW, Channel 7 ran a piece about this in their news segment tonight, then led sports with it. Good pub for The AP -- and they even left your name on the story on their Web site. By "good mood" and "upbeat," I gather that he's recovered from the shoulder injury and feeling reasonably well for a man 90 years young? And I'm glad that things worked out for today; I was worried you wouldn't be able to reschedule it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HurlyBurly51 Posted June 29, 2009 Share Posted June 29, 2009 HUH? how is that good news? Elaborate? Oh, I don't know. He could've said yes, I'm actively pursuing adding more games to the Toronto series, in hopes of moving the team there ASAP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jax bill backer Posted June 29, 2009 Share Posted June 29, 2009 Doesn't matter if you see it; they're moving, and sooner, rather than later. and you know how Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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