Coach55 Posted April 8, 2009 Share Posted April 8, 2009 Eugene Parker clearly likes to take the amicable path in negotiating by advising his players to holdout as opposed to showing up for camp: Hines Ward - 2005 Richard Seymour - 2005 Walter Jones - 2003 Emmitt Smith - 1990, 1993 Derrick Brooks - 2001 Devin Hester - 2008 Cedric Benson - 2005 Laveraneus Coles - 2008 Jason Peters - 2008, 2009 Steven Jackson - 2008 Of his 18 clients listed on Wikipedia, 10 had holdouts. Of the 8 that didn't - 3 were rookies last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted April 8, 2009 Share Posted April 8, 2009 Eugene Parker clearly likes to take the amicable path in negotiating by advising his players to holdout as opposed to showing up for camp: Hines Ward - 2005 Richard Seymour - 2005 Walter Jones - 2003 Emmitt Smith - 1990, 1993 Derrick Brooks - 2001 Devin Hester - 2008 Cedric Benson - 2005 Laveraneus Coles - 2008 Jason Peters - 2008, 2009 Steven Jackson - 2008 Of his 18 clients listed on Wikipedia, 10 had holdouts. Of the 8 that didn't - 3 were rookies last year. Good find. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted April 8, 2009 Share Posted April 8, 2009 Eugene Parker clearly likes to take the amicable path in negotiating by advising his players to holdout as opposed to showing up for camp: Hines Ward - 2005 Richard Seymour - 2005 Walter Jones - 2003 Emmitt Smith - 1990, 1993 Derrick Brooks - 2001 Devin Hester - 2008 Cedric Benson - 2005 Laveraneus Coles - 2008 Jason Peters - 2008, 2009 Steven Jackson - 2008 Of his 18 clients listed on Wikipedia, 10 had holdouts. Of the 8 that didn't - 3 were rookies last year. Nice - thanks. Let's see if Dansby gets added to that list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvermike Posted April 8, 2009 Share Posted April 8, 2009 How often does he win those holdouts? He hasn't actually forced a trade on any of those yet - do the teams usually cave? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LynchMob23 Posted April 8, 2009 Share Posted April 8, 2009 And Demeco Ryans...funny how these guys were super close to signing and then all of the sudden they're with him... He's also Greg Jennings' (Packers) agent - and wants more money for him... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted April 8, 2009 Share Posted April 8, 2009 How often does he win those holdouts? He hasn't actually forced a trade on any of those yet - do the teams usually cave? That's what I was thinking. Didnt he win the money for almost all of if not all of those clients? I don't recall any of them traded. And Devin Hester signed a ridiculous contract for him after holding out about a week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvermike Posted April 8, 2009 Share Posted April 8, 2009 Let's see: some quick research... Hines Ward held out for two weeks, then reported to camp and signed an extension Sept. 15, richest in Steeler history. Parker wins. Richard Seymour only skipped some offseason workouts before signing a huge contract. Parker wins. Walter Jones kept holding out and then playing for his franchise tender. He later signed a big extension, but I'd give this one to the Seahawks. Emmitt Smith and Brooks are too long ago to find good information. Hester got STUPID money - up to $10M per season - for being basically a glorified Roscoe Parrish. Parker. Benson got his rookie deal with $17M guaranteed, but these holdouts are almost never worth it for the player or the team. Everybody lost. Coles just got his money guaranteed after holding out - that's one for the Jets, especialyl since he gave it up anyway. Jets win. Peters lost round one, we'll see about round 2. And Jackson got paid. So let's see: four clean wins, one draw, and three losses. That's nothing too special, really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Jose Bills Fan Posted April 8, 2009 Share Posted April 8, 2009 Thanks for digging up some more actual information Silvermike. Appreciate it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
murra Posted April 8, 2009 Share Posted April 8, 2009 I thought he had some miraculous 440 time or something Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted April 8, 2009 Share Posted April 8, 2009 Let's see: some quick research... Hines Ward held out for two weeks, then reported to camp and signed an extension Sept. 15, richest in Steeler history. Parker wins. Richard Seymour only skipped some offseason workouts before signing a huge contract. Parker wins. Walter Jones kept holding out and then playing for his franchise tender. He later signed a big extension, but I'd give this one to the Seahawks. Emmitt Smith and Brooks are too long ago to find good information. Hester got STUPID money - up to $10M per season - for being basically a glorified Roscoe Parrish. Parker. Benson got his rookie deal with $17M guaranteed, but these holdouts are almost never worth it for the player or the team. Everybody lost. Coles just got his money guaranteed after holding out - that's one for the Jets, especialyl since he gave it up anyway. Jets win. Peters lost round one, we'll see about round 2. And Jackson got paid. So let's see: four clean wins, one draw, and three losses. That's nothing too special, really. good post. I will add that in 1993, the Cowboys lost their first two games (one to the Bills - 13-10) when Emmitt Smith held out. They caved after Derrick Lassic proved he couldn't shoulder the load at all. The problem is, Richard Howell was Smith's agent, not Parker: http://vault.sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vau...978/3/index.htm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike In Illinois Posted April 8, 2009 Share Posted April 8, 2009 That Jackson and Peters share the same agent is bad news. Last time we had a problem with an agent negotiating it was when two defense linemen (Ted and Pat?) and he refused to negotiate for one before giving extension to other. Steven Jackson plays for the Rams. Fred Jackson is a Bill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armchair GM Posted April 8, 2009 Share Posted April 8, 2009 I say good for the Bills on not caving on the demands of a player who, though has shown he has an upside, hasn't really proved he's worth what he thinks he is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Bills Fan Posted April 8, 2009 Share Posted April 8, 2009 http://www.sportsagentblog.com/2009/02/08/...nfl-mock-draft/ That site is not only a mock draft but it also tells us the players agent. Interesting read. FYI Eugene Parker's Agency is called Maximum Sports. Maybe something the Bills should consider when looking at these prospects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsWatch Posted April 8, 2009 Share Posted April 8, 2009 Steven Jackson plays for the Rams. Fred Jackson is a Bill. Thanks. I know that and just read Jackson and missed the first name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Bills Fan Posted April 8, 2009 Share Posted April 8, 2009 Im glad he does not represent most of this years prospects! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bourbonboy Posted April 8, 2009 Share Posted April 8, 2009 Per Rotoworld: Free agent Rex Grossman recently changed agents from Eugene Parker to Drew Rosenhaus. Grossman hasn't received a sniff since a false report that he was scheduled to visit the Bucs, but Rosenhaus says he "should get him a deal soon." Too bad undrafted TE-turned-linemen aren't as smart as QB's..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildBills Posted April 9, 2009 Share Posted April 9, 2009 what is CAA? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildBills Posted April 9, 2009 Share Posted April 9, 2009 says they are a talent agency. whoever runs that show, it must be very profitable. they represent a lot of guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dean Posted April 9, 2009 Share Posted April 9, 2009 what is CAA? CAA is a huge talent agency. It was started by Mike Ovitz, and some others who left Phillip Morris Agency in the 70's (I think...maybe the 80's you can look it up). They are notorious for engaging in questionable business practices (at least in the past). Creative Artists Agency is what CAA stands for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsWatch Posted April 9, 2009 Share Posted April 9, 2009 CAA is a huge talent agency. It was started by Mike Ovitz, and some others who left Phillip Morris Agency in the 70's (I think...maybe the 80's you can look it up). They are notorious for engaging in questionable business practices (at least in the past). Creative Artists Agency is what CAA stands for. Do they represent the Patriots*? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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