Latest McShay Mock Draft

[LabattBlue]

Unfortunately, with the holes we have on our roster,

we can't afford to have our second and third pick only account for one player.

 

IMHO both times they traded up recently (for Poz and McCargo) it turned out to be a mistake.

 

Poz is a league average starter, McCargo is a bust.

[atlbillsfan1975]

I like Hangartner, but the reason he started is because the #1 guy was injured. Hangartner did get starts, but he was a second-stringer who got a chance and ran with it.

Thats how a lot of guys become starters. Very few rookies come in and start right away. So what your saying is he got a shot and did a good job. Sounds exactly like th ekin dof guy the Bills need. Not like Duke Preston who came in and did sub par at best.

[ans4e64]

Yes. I think Brown can put up big numbers and be a better version of Schobel as far as the pass rush, but I think he will be a liability against the run. Unger us an underrated player, but definitely not a first day pick- I wouldn't take him before the 5th round.

 

 

 

Dumbest post I've seen in a while.

[Adam]

 

Dumbest post I've seen in a while.

Thanks, I try

[Magox]

I don't think Poz is good enough to be a starter. Not athletic, not fast

second dumbest

[Adam]

second dumbest

There is a reason we haven't been to playoffs in a decade

[Magox]

There is a reason we haven't been to playoffs in a decade

ya, but it's not because of poz

[Adam]

ya, but it's not because of poz

I don't think he's all that good. He isn't the root of our problem, not by a long shot though

[thebug]

I don't think he's all that good. He isn't the root of our problem, not by a long shot though

 

 

Ya but he's got a cool name though

[Adam]

Ya but he's got a cool name though

So does Obefemi Ayenbadajo

[Pete]

I don't mind Brown as the 1st Pick...IMHO The Bills MUST add a DE/Pass Rusher with the Pick at #11...Whether it's Brown, Ayers, Jackson, Maybin if He slides a bit...It matters not to Me...As long as The Bills get someone who can get to the QB with that Pick I'm OK with it...

 

In the 2nd (based on this Mock) I'd rather see the TE Ingram go to The Bills...I REALLY like the way that Kid looks...As long as Our Doctors say He's OK I'd LOVE to see Him in Buffalo...I think he's a 1st round talent who is being pushed down a bit by the injury...I realize He's WAY raw and not the best Blocker right now...But I think the sky is the limit for that Kid once He gets a Year or two of Pro Coaching...Plus I think The Bills need another Player named Cornelius to turn this thing around...

 

In the 3rd a LB or an OG...In the 4th whatever they don't get in the 3rd...

I concur. I like Maybin or Ayers at our pick, but really like Ingram with our number 2!

[Bill Brasky]

As a Pats fan, I'd be fine with Matthews, Laurinaitis, Alphonso Smith but I'm thinking OG Duke Robinson with the last pick in the 2nd. They can grab a safety in the 3rd or 4th round.

 

 

 

 

First Round

1. Detroit Lions Jason Smith OT Baylor

2. St. Louis Rams Michael Crabtree WR Texas Tech

3. Kansas City Chiefs Aaron Curry OLB Wake Forest

4. Seattle Seahawks Matthew Stafford QB Georgia

5. Cleveland Browns Brian Orakpo DE Texas

6. Cincinnati Bengals Eugene Monroe OT Virginia

7. Oakland Raiders B.J. Raji DT Boston College

8. Jacksonville Jaguars Mark Sanchez QB USC

9. Green Bay Packers Aaron Maybin DE Penn State

10. San Francisco 49ers Andre Smith OT Alabama

11. Buffalo Bills Everette Brown DE Florida State

12. Denver Broncos Tyson Jackson DE LSU

13. Washington Redskins Robert Ayers DE Tennessee

14. New Orleans Saints Malcolm Jenkins CB Ohio State

15. Houston Texans Chris Wells RB Ohio State

16. San Diego Chargers Jeremy Maclin WR Missouri

17. New York Jets Percy Harvin WR Florida

18. Chicago Bears Darrius Heyward-Bey WR Maryland

19. Tampa Bay Buccaneers Josh Freeman QB Penn State

20. Detroit Lions (from Dallas) Brandon Pettigrew TE Oklahoma State

21. Philadelphia Eagles Michael Oher OT Mississippi

22. Minnesota Vikings Eben Britton OT Arizona

23. New England Patriots Clay Matthews OLB USC

24. Atlanta Falcons Brian Cushing OLB USC

25. Miami Dolphins Vontae Davis CB Illinois

26. Baltimore Ravens Rey Maualuga ILB USC

27. Indianapolis Colts Peria Jerry DT Mississippi

28. Philadelphia Eagles (from Carolina) Knowshon Moreno RB Georgia

29. New York Giants Hakeem Nicks WR North Carolina

30. Tennessee Titans Kenny Britt WR Rutgers

31. Arizona Cardinals Donald Brown RB Connecticut

32. Pittsburgh Steelers Darius Butler CB Connecticut

2nd Round

1. (33) Detroit Lions Larry English DE Northern Illinois

2. (34) New England Patriots (from Kansas City) James Laurinaitis ILB Ohio State

3. (35) St. Louis Rams Steven Beatty OT Connecticut

4. (36) Cleveland Browns LeSean McCoy RB Pittsburgh

5. (37) Seattle Seahawks Louis Delmas S Western Michigan

6. (38) Cincinnati Bengals Alex Mack C Cal

7. (39) Jacksonville Jaguars Derrick Williams WR Penn State

8. (40) Oakland Raiders Jamon Meredith OT South Carolina

9. (41) Green Bay Packers Ron Brace DT Boston College

10. (42) Buffalo Bills Max Unger C Oregon

11. (43) San Francisco 49ers Clint Sintim OLB Virginia

12. (44) Miami Dolphins (from Washington) Brandon Tate WR North Carolina

13. (45) New York Giants (from New Orleans) Sean Smith CB Utah

14. (46) Houston Texans Michael Johnson DE Georgia Tech

15. (47) New England Patriots (from San Diego) Alphonso Smith CB Wake Forest

16. (48) Denver Broncos D.J. Moore CB Vanderbilt

17. (49) Chicago Bears William Moore S Missouri

18. (50) Cleveland Browns (from Tampa Bay) Cornelius Ingram TE Florida

19. (51) Dallas Cowboys Patrick Chung S Oregon

20. (52) New York Jets Jarron Gilbert DT San Jose State

21. (53) Philadelphia Eagles Brian Robiskie WR Ohio State

22. (54) Minnesota Vikings Pat White WR West Virginia

23. (55) Atlanta Falcons Rashad Johnson S Alabama

24. (56) Miami Dolphins Lawrence Sidbury DE Richmond

25. (57) Baltimore Ravens Connor Barwin DE Cincinnati

26. (58) New England Patriots Chip Vaughn S Wake Forest

27. (59) Carolina Panthers Evander Hood DT Missouri

28. (60) New York Giants Paul Kruger DE Utah

29. (61) Indianapolis Colts Louis Murphy WR Florida

30. (62) Tennessee Titans Ricky Jean-Francois DT LSU

31. (63) Arizona Cardinals Shawn Nelson TE Southern Miss

32. (64) Pittsburgh Steelers Andy Levitre OG Oregon State

McShay's Top 15 remaining

1. Jairus Byrd CB Oregon

2. Jared Cook TE South Carolina

3. Sen'Derrick Marks DT Auburn

4. Duke Robinson G Oklahoma

5. Asher Allen CB Georgia

6. Eric Wood C Louisville

7. Cody Brown OLB Connecticut

8. Shonn Greene RB Iowa

9. Fili Moala DT USC

10. James Casey TE Rice

11. David Veikune DE Hawaii

12. Travis Beckum TE Wisconsin

13. Coye Francies CB San Jose State

14. Alex Magee DT Purdue

15. Juaquin Iglesias WR Oklahoma

 

Have at it boys and girls.

[Leonidas]

I concur. I like Maybin or Ayers at our pick, but really like Ingram with our number 2!

 

I still don't see why anybody likes Maybin to play a 4-3 DE at his size. He bulked up, but he's still under 250 and ran slow when he did. I don't get it.

 

And Ayers? I understand he played in the SEC, but doesn't three sacks in his final season tell you something? That doesn't warrant a #11 overall pick to me. We need a guy who will get to the quarterback. I don't see how 3 sacks will turn into a double-digit production. And if it doesn't - which in all likelyhood is won't - then it's an absolute reach at #11.

[Pete]

I still don't see why anybody likes Maybin to play a 4-3 DE at his size. He bulked up, but he's still under 250 and ran slow when he did. I don't get it.

 

And Ayers? I understand he played in the SEC, but doesn't three sacks in his final season tell you something? That doesn't warrant a #11 overall pick to me. We need a guy who will get to the quarterback. I don't see how 3 sacks will turn into a double-digit production. And if it doesn't - which in all likelyhood is won't - then it's an absolute reach at #11.

I believe Maybin clocked much faster recently. And 250 pound DE's seem to work quite nice for Indy- they both are in the Pro Bowl. Ayers was very disruptive when he played. And there is not one DE that is head and shoulders above the rest. I prefer Maybin and Ayers upside.

[Leonidas]

I believe Maybin clocked much faster recently. And 250 pound DE's seem to work quite nice for Indy- they both are in the Pro Bowl.

 

Maybin clocked in faster at his pro day...just like athletes always do. His 4.89 at the Combine was pathetic. Comparing him to the DE's for the Colts isn't entirely correct. Dwight Freeney is three inches shorter than Maybin and weighs 20 lbs. more than he does. He also ran a 4.38 at the Combine. Robert Mathis is a bit closer to Maybin in size, but I think he mainly benefits from teams having fits over Freeney. Plus, Mathis was a fifth round draft pick. You'll never see me complain about taking Aaron Maybin in the fifth round (everyone settle down...I know he won't be there then).

 

Ayers was very disruptive when he played. And there is not one DE that is head and shoulders above the rest. I prefer Maybin and Ayers upside.

 

I believe there is, and his name is Brian Orakpo. That's why he'll be long gone by the time we pick.

[LynchMob23]

I still don't see why anybody likes Maybin to play a 4-3 DE at his size. He bulked up, but he's still under 250 and ran slow when he did. I don't get it.

 

And Ayers? I understand he played in the SEC, but doesn't three sacks in his final season tell you something? That doesn't warrant a #11 overall pick to me. We need a guy who will get to the quarterback. I don't see how 3 sacks will turn into a double-digit production. And if it doesn't - which in all likelyhood is won't - then it's an absolute reach at #11.

 

I think the best comparison's I've heard made by Pat Kirwan and others for Maybin isn't a Freeney or a Mathis but rather him being a young version of Andre Carter. Andre is a guy who plays now full-time at the end position but when he came into the league he went from Defensive End to Linebacker and occassional DE.

 

His first few years, Maybin could be our SAM (which is most people's WILL - aligned with the 3 tech and the flows to the ball) and run around like a maniac, make some plays, get some sacks in rush situations on the edge. As he gets more developed, as a player and physically he can transition to full time DE.

[spartacus]

First of all, where is this Hangartner was a backup stuff coming from? Do you read? He was a STARTER at Carolina last year, not a backup, and they wanted to keep him, but they couldn't because they have tremendous salary cap problems down there. No one is pretending anything. Carolina had one of the best OLs in football in terms of run blocking and overall statistics last year, so to claim this guy can't play is ludicrous.

 

That being said, I would still like to see the Bills draft one of Mack, Unger, or Robinson. Mack and Unger could play guard, or regardless of the Bills' "Commitment" to Hangartner playing center, he has a number of starts at the G position and could be moved to make way for Mack or Unger if that worked out. If not, the other two could play guard and be very good. Having guys that can play two OL positions is a luxury in the NFL. As for Robinson, no question the guy can play, and if he is available in the third round we should consider moving up to get him in the third. That wouldn't cost us much, and by that time, Buffalo likely will have addressed two of their other needs, i.e. DE, LB, DT, TE.

 

Saying Hangarter is a starter is like saying Chambers is a starter -

 

he was forced into the lineup because of injury

 

I guess he was so good that Carlina did not keep him and he did not sign any big deal with anyone else either,

 

What you fail to state is that Caroline liked Hangman so much that they went and drafted a rookie in the 2nd round and started him ahead of Hangartner. He was not good enough so he was replaced

 

Now though he is the savior and answer to the Bills incompetent C play for the last 15 years.

 

I don't think so .

 

 

With roster space limits, it is imperative that your OL can play multiple positions. they need to be flexible to move around and cover up injuries.

 

 

 

 

he is a backup quality C

[San Jose Bills Fan]

Saying Hangarter is a starter is like saying Chambers is a starter -

 

With roster space limits, it is imperative that your OL can play multiple positions. they need to be flexible to move around and cover up injuries.

 

he is a backup quality C

Hey Spartacus. I'm gonna (for what reason I have no idea) give him/them the benefit of the doubt. However the best person you could compare Hangartner to is Duke Preston.

 

They were both selected in the 2005 Draft, Preston in the 4th round, Hangartner in the 5th. And both can play all three interior line positions.

 

So worst case, we shuffled the cards and have an equivalent player. Best case is that he's an upgrade. Boy this finger crossing is getting old.

[Leonidas]

I think the best comparison's I've heard made by Pat Kirwan and others for Maybin isn't a Freeney or a Mathis but rather him being a young version of Andre Carter. Andre is a guy who plays now full-time at the end position but when he came into the league he went from Defensive End to Linebacker and occassional DE.

 

His first few years, Maybin could be our SAM (which is most people's WILL - aligned with the 3 tech and the flows to the ball) and run around like a maniac, make some plays, get some sacks in rush situations on the edge. As he gets more developed, as a player and physically he can transition to full time DE.

 

Maybe it's just me, but I'd rather not take a guy #11 overall who doesn't fit into a particular position. There's a difference between being a 'tweener like Maybin and being versatile like a Jerod Mayo or Mathias Kiwanuka. I'll admit I haven't seen much of this guy, but from what I have seen it looks like he is just a fast dude with no technique and too small to get enough push off of NFL tackles (http://video.aol.com/video-detail/draft-mi...aybin/599245129). By all means though if you've seen more of him than I have I welcome the differing opinion.

 

Personally, I am much more impressed by Everette Brown: (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qXJJ14HL5EE)

 

Also, can someone tell me what the allure of B.J. Raji is? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9UQ2YGE9SLM I just don't see it...

 

Here's another thought: does anyone think it's worth trading up to #4 to get Orakpo? I'm not sure it's worth the price...but it is tempting to consider:

[PushthePile]

Maybe it's just me, but I'd rather not take a guy #11 overall who doesn't fit into a particular position. There's a difference between being a 'tweener like Maybin and being versatile like a Jerod Mayo or Mathias Kiwanuka. I'll admit I haven't seen much of this guy, but from what I have seen it looks like he is just a fast dude with no technique and too small to get enough push off of NFL tackles (http://video.aol.com/video-detail/draft-mi...aybin/599245129). By all means though if you've seen more of him than I have I welcome the differing opinion.

 

Personally, I am much more impressed by Everette Brown: (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qXJJ14HL5EE)

I love watching that Brown video. He has the big-time pass rushing moves the others don't. Brown beat some of those tackles so badly it looked like they didn't even get a finger on him. He could be best in draft, IMO.