Pine Barrens Mafia Posted November 2, 2004 Share Posted November 2, 2004 Didn't Reagan run up record deficits during his tenure?Didn't Bush just pour 200 billion dollars into a military project? Sorry, but I'm still failing to see any appreciable difference here. 97346[/snapback] Yes, but on things the gov't is SUPPOSED to spend money on: Military, etc... He funded a war, not a buildup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Posted November 2, 2004 Share Posted November 2, 2004 Pardon a thick-headed question from a political neophyte, but how exactly are Reagan and BushII so radically different? 97318[/snapback] Primarily, the neoconservative agenda and the blind devotion to extremists in the party. For a good discussion of this, read Pat Buchanan's new book, "Where the Right Went Wrong," and Scott McConnell's piece in the American Conservative Magazine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Tate Posted November 2, 2004 Share Posted November 2, 2004 B.S. Get to the polls and VOTE. Nothing is over until WE say it is over! Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? 97237[/snapback] KD in CT's right. Psychotic, but absolutely right. We gotta take these bastards. Now we could do it with conventional weapons that could take years and cost millions of lives. No, I think we have to go all out. I think that this situation absolutely requires a really futile and stupid gesture be done on somebody's part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted November 2, 2004 Share Posted November 2, 2004 Primarily, the neoconservative agenda and the blind devotion to extremists in the party. Reagan didn't roll out the red carpet for the godsquadders and the justsayno extremists? Vague references and buzzwords aren't showing me these glaring differences between Reagan and Bush. All I can see are the similarities between two free-spending, holier-than-thou, ultra conservatives with limited mental capacities. For a good discussion of this, read Pat Buchanan's new book, "Where the Right Went Wrong," and Scott McConnell's piece in the American Conservative Magazine. I'd be interested in the McConnell piece if there were a link available. But I'm not sure if I'd rather read a Pat Buchanan book or have papercuts on my eyeballs ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erynthered Posted November 2, 2004 Share Posted November 2, 2004 I need a hug. 97241[/snapback] You dont need a hug, you need a beating. Nine innings Pal. Yogi? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichFan Posted November 2, 2004 Share Posted November 2, 2004 The exits that have been reported so far are absoulte BS. For example, the sampling is 59% Women vs. 41% Male. To any Bush supporter who is even the slightest bit worried -- SUCK IT UP AND GOTV!!!! This is going to be a close election and we knew last night it would be that way. You want it to be a landslide for Bush and melt when it isn't. Again, SUCK IT UP, go vote, and get your family, friends and neighbors out to vote. The Republican GOTV machine is hitting on all cylinders and this was a calulated move to derail it by the DNC and main-street-media. The DNC simply can not handle the thought of losing an election with high voter turnout. If you let this demoralize you then they win and you'll feel like a fool tomorrow. Think of the guys over in Iraq laying their a$$ on the line and expecting you to pull through for them. Get your minds back in the freaking game and keep the morale high. Bush will win if you do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erynthered Posted November 2, 2004 Share Posted November 2, 2004 The exits that have been reported so far are absoulte BS. For example, the sampling is 59% Women vs. 41% Male. To any Bush supporter who is even the slightest bit worried -- SUCK IT UP AND GOTV!!!! This is going to be a close election and we knew last night it would be that way. You want it to be a landslide for Bush and melt when it isn't. Again, SUCK IT UP, go vote, and get your family, friends and neighbors out to vote. The Republican GOTV machine is hitting on all cylinders and this was a calulated move to derail it by the DNC and main-street-media. The DNC simply can not handle the thought of losing an election with high voter turnout. If you let this demoralize you then they win and you'll feel like a fool tomorrow. Think of the guys over in Iraq laying their a$$ on the line and expecting you to pull through for them. Get your minds back in the freaking game and keep the morale high. Bush will win if you do. 97473[/snapback] !@#$ Mich, I just did a HoooRaaa!!, Nice post!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IBTG81 Posted November 2, 2004 Author Share Posted November 2, 2004 The exits that have been reported so far are absoulte BS. For example, the sampling is 59% Women vs. 41% Male. To any Bush supporter who is even the slightest bit worried -- SUCK IT UP AND GOTV!!!! This is going to be a close election and we knew last night it would be that way. You want it to be a landslide for Bush and melt when it isn't. Again, SUCK IT UP, go vote, and get your family, friends and neighbors out to vote. The Republican GOTV machine is hitting on all cylinders and this was a calulated move to derail it by the DNC and main-street-media. The DNC simply can not handle the thought of losing an election with high voter turnout. If you let this demoralize you then they win and you'll feel like a fool tomorrow. Think of the guys over in Iraq laying their a$$ on the line and expecting you to pull through for them. Get your minds back in the freaking game and keep the morale high. Bush will win if you do. 97473[/snapback] I voted at 7:30 AM this morning. Everyone I know is voting for Bush except my gf. My mom even is (everyone who knows that story should be shocked), but they despise LIBERALS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thailog80 Posted November 2, 2004 Share Posted November 2, 2004 The exits that have been reported so far are absoulte BS. For example, the sampling is 59% Women vs. 41% Male. To any Bush supporter who is even the slightest bit worried -- SUCK IT UP AND GOTV!!!! This is going to be a close election and we knew last night it would be that way. You want it to be a landslide for Bush and melt when it isn't. Again, SUCK IT UP, go vote, and get your family, friends and neighbors out to vote. The Republican GOTV machine is hitting on all cylinders and this was a calulated move to derail it by the DNC and main-street-media. The DNC simply can not handle the thought of losing an election with high voter turnout. If you let this demoralize you then they win and you'll feel like a fool tomorrow. Think of the guys over in Iraq laying their a$$ on the line and expecting you to pull through for them. Get your minds back in the freaking game and keep the morale high. Bush will win if you do. 97473[/snapback] Great post!!!! Perfectly stated!!! Come on W! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted November 2, 2004 Share Posted November 2, 2004 I voted at 7:30 AM this morning. Everyone I know is voting for Bush except my gf. My mom even is (everyone who knows that story should be shocked), but they despise LIBERALS. 97486[/snapback] I have the same kind of anecdotal evidence. Everyone in mine and my wife's family is voting bush. Except for my father-in law, the wife's sister and her husband. That's it. It's a margin of 14-3 in my family. And I'm willing to wager it's similar across the country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nobody Posted November 2, 2004 Share Posted November 2, 2004 but they despise LIBERALS. 97486[/snapback] They don't like big government? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted November 2, 2004 Share Posted November 2, 2004 Tell that to the guy I work with. He lives in IL and has property in MI. He had to go up to MI and vote on some of the referendums up there... It is his right. I guess the presidential election was going on there... So I guess he voted twice... BTW he's republican and voted twice for Bush! It goes on everywhere! The should have one race ballots for president, standardized and linked registration to your SS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albany,n.y. Posted November 2, 2004 Share Posted November 2, 2004 Reagan was a lot more pragmatic when it came to risking American lives. He would never had gotten us into the post "mission accomplished" mess where the majority of deaths have occurred. Reagan didn't have the Armageddon is just around the corner so lets hasten its arrival mentality that some of the Bush people appear to have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Posted November 2, 2004 Share Posted November 2, 2004 Reagan was a lot more pragmatic when it came to risking American lives. He would never had gotten us into the post "mission accomplished" mess where the majority of deaths have occurred. Reagan didn't have the Armageddon is just around the corner so lets hasten its arrival mentality that some of the Bush people appear to have. 97520[/snapback] Good post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typical TBD Guy Posted November 2, 2004 Share Posted November 2, 2004 Good post. 97555[/snapback] Actually, no. That wasn't a good post. Bush is trying to hasten Armageddon? Talk about your scare tactics... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albany,n.y. Posted November 2, 2004 Share Posted November 2, 2004 Since I don't believe in Armageddon I wouldn't ever say Bush is hastening Armageddon. What I did say is that Bush surrounds himself with people who more or less agree with him that it's not such a bad thing to hasten something they believe in. That's why I referred to it as a mentality, because you can't hasten something that isn't going to happen, but you can believe you will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typical TBD Guy Posted November 2, 2004 Share Posted November 2, 2004 Since I don't believe in Armageddon I wouldn't ever say Bush is hastening Armageddon. What I did say is that Bush surrounds himself with people who more or less agree with him that it's not such a bad thing to hasten something they believe in. That's why I referred to it as a mentality, because you can't hasten something that isn't going to happen, but you can believe you will. 97590[/snapback] Couldn't you just say that you find Bush's foreign policy wreckless and leave it at that? Why do you have to characterize his administration as having this nonchalant attitude about facilitating Armageddon? Bush and his advisors have families of their own that they care about; I think they'd like to delay the annihilation of mankind for at least their children and grandchildren, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IBTG81 Posted November 3, 2004 Author Share Posted November 3, 2004 I've never been happier to have been wrong! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aussiew Posted November 3, 2004 Share Posted November 3, 2004 Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? I can't believe you guys let KD in CT get away with this! Y'all must be really tired to let this slip by. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaska Darin Posted November 3, 2004 Share Posted November 3, 2004 I can't believe you guys let KD in CT get away with this! Y'all must be really tired to let this slip by. 98487[/snapback] Uhm, you do realize that's a quote from "Animal House", right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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