Ramius Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 I was watching NFL netwaork this lazy afternoon and they had the cardinals press conference on. I was amazed by Kurt Warner's attitude when asked about the Boldin confrontation and his own confrontation with OC Todd Haley during the 1st quarter of yesterday's game. Warner's answer displayed just how far off buffalo is from being a true contender and just how much the loser mentality has permeated the entire organization. Warner said, and i'm paraphrasing, "We're not here to make friends (with the coaches) on the sidelines. We're here to win. I may not agree with the staff at all times, but all i can ask from them is that they are doing whatever they can to make me (us) become the best players we can be, and that they put us in the best position to win the game. Its not always warm and friendly among us, but in the end when its over, i know they are getting the best out of us." He continued with, "Coaches are like parents in a way. They aren't supposed to be your friends and there are going to be lots of disagreements, but their job is to prep you to perform the best you can in the next stage of your life. Thats what our coaches have been doing. " Contrast this to a loser like Chris Kelsay with his talk of, "We all love Dick Jauron and everyone is happy to play for him. He's everyone's friend and he's there to pat me on the back and take me for ice cream when i have a bad day." The Bills organization is a mess, and is starts with the attitude. Some team simply do not accept failure. Unfortunately, Buffalo isn't one of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayFinkle Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 So we should sign TO if he hits the market? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 "Coaches are like parents in a way. They aren't supposed to be your friends and there are going to be lots of disagreements, but their job is to prep you to perform the best you can in the next stage of your life. Thats what our coaches have been doing. " Success covers up for all sins, apparently. If Philly had won yesterday, this board would be ragging on the Cards' players for being selfish, undisciplined and out of control for going off on the coaching staff... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tortured Soul Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 Warner's answer displayed just how far off buffalo is from being a true contender and just how much the loser mentality has permeated the entire organization. Did it also display how far off we are from finishing 9-7 in the weakest division in football? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayFinkle Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 Success covers up for all sins, apparently. If Philly had won yesterday, this board would be ragging on the Cards' players for being selfish, undisciplined and out of control for going off on the coaching staff... bingo! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 I'm sorry, but there's no connection there. Both were fine in the circumstances. Do you want Kelsay to start arguing with the coaches so he can explain away the arguments? Do you see the Steelers arguing with their coaches? Does that mean they suck? If you want to argue that Kelsay isn't a very good player I'm right there with you. But what Kelsay said was fine in the situation. There's no issue here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawgg Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 The Bills organization is a mess, and is starts with the attitude. Some team simply do not accept failure. Unfortunately, Buffalo isn't one of them. You aight bro? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
todd Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 The important thing to realize here is that Warner wore a glove in a dome and therefore he sucks. I was watching NFL netwaork this lazy afternoon and they had the cardinals press conference on. I was amazed by Kurt Warner's attitude when asked about the Boldin confrontation and his own confrontation with OC Todd Haley during the 1st quarter of yesterday's game. Warner's answer displayed just how far off buffalo is from being a true contender and just how much the loser mentality has permeated the entire organization. Warner said, and i'm paraphrasing, "We're not here to make friends (with the coaches) on the sidelines. We're here to win. I may not agree with the staff at all times, but all i can ask from them is that they are doing whatever they can to make me (us) become the best players we can be, and that they put us in the best position to win the game. Its not always warm and friendly among us, but in the end when its over, i know they are getting the best out of us." He continued with, "Coaches are like parents in a way. They aren't supposed to be your friends and there are going to be lots of disagreements, but their job is to prep you to perform the best you can in the next stage of your life. Thats what our coaches have been doing. " Contrast this to a loser like Chris Kelsay with his talk of, "We all love Dick Jauron and everyone is happy to play for him. He's everyone's friend and he's there to pat me on the back and take me for ice cream when i have a bad day." The Bills organization is a mess, and is starts with the attitude. Some team simply do not accept failure. Unfortunately, Buffalo isn't one of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartyBall4Buffalo Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 I dont know about all this, but the title of your thread is the only verifiable factual aspect. Kurt Warner is a possible future HOF quarterback. Chris Kelsay is a guy who stole a bunch of money from Ralph, and knows this is the only team in the league that's dumb enough to let him start, without bringing in legit competition. Captain Kurt is a Winner. Kelsay is a soft lousy football player, with a big paycheck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 I'm sorry, but there's no connection there. Both were fine in the circumstances. Do you want Kelsay to start arguing with the coaches so he can explain away the arguments? Do you see the Steelers arguing with their coaches? Does that mean they suck? If you want to argue that Kelsay isn't a very good player I'm right there with you. But what Kelsay said was fine in the situation. There's no issue here. When I heard all the players loved Juron I knew that was our problem right there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazyDingo Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 I wish Kurt Warner was our DE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartyBall4Buffalo Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 I wish Kurt Warner was our DE. I'm pretty sure after 2 or 3 times he would play containment on an end around instead of crashing upfield. Probably a better pass rusher as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VJ91 Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 I was watching NFL netwaork this lazy afternoon and they had the cardinals press conference on. I was amazed by Kurt Warner's attitude when asked about the Boldin confrontation and his own confrontation with OC Todd Haley during the 1st quarter of yesterday's game. Warner's answer displayed just how far off buffalo is from being a true contender and just how much the loser mentality has permeated the entire organization. Warner said, and i'm paraphrasing, "We're not here to make friends (with the coaches) on the sidelines. We're here to win. I may not agree with the staff at all times, but all i can ask from them is that they are doing whatever they can to make me (us) become the best players we can be, and that they put us in the best position to win the game. Its not always warm and friendly among us, but in the end when its over, i know they are getting the best out of us." He continued with, "Coaches are like parents in a way. They aren't supposed to be your friends and there are going to be lots of disagreements, but their job is to prep you to perform the best you can in the next stage of your life. Thats what our coaches have been doing. " Contrast this to a loser like Chris Kelsay with his talk of, "We all love Dick Jauron and everyone is happy to play for him. He's everyone's friend and he's there to pat me on the back and take me for ice cream when i have a bad day." The Bills organization is a mess, and is starts with the attitude. Some team simply do not accept failure. Unfortunately, Buffalo isn't one of them. That's all well and good for Warner to defend his and Boldin's immature disrespectful behavior towards their OC on the sidelines, since they won the game. But they would have taken a ton of heat if they didn't come back with that last TD drive to pull out the game after being outscored 19-0 in the second half. As the Eagles took the lead in the 4th quarter, Warner and Boldin were throwing Haley under the bus on national TV before the game had even ended. You think that's "winner" behavior? As if preparing for the Steelers' defense over the next two weeks won't keep Haley, Warner and Boldin busy enough, now they have a pain in the ass distraction they will be asked about relentlessly right up to game time. I would have expected more from a veteran like Warner, and Boldin was just barely healthy enough to play at all, much less to waste his time picking fights with his own coach on the sidelines. As much as I wish Kurt Warner was a Buffalo Bill while Kelsay was a Cardinal for talents' sake, I do not agree that Warner and Boldin should be commended for their attitudes. Chris Kelsay doesn't need to be yelled at by his coaches, he needs to be replaced with a better DE. But I don't fault him for defending his coaches instead of yelling at them on the sidelines! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 You aight bro? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RShirley Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 When I heard all the players loved Juron I knew that was our problem right there. You are correct......when you hear the words he is a "player's coach", you know it is time to start looking for a new coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsPride12 Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 To all the people saying, if the Cards woulda lost everyone woulda been flipping out over them argueing on the sidelines. I disagree, because we saw it so many times in Buffalo in our glory days. I think some people have forgotten how Kelly and Reed used to go at it, and with coaches, etc. well sometimes stuff like that would happen in the first half of the game, and then Kelly would throw 3 td's to Reed in the second half and we would win the game. I have no problems seeing players with a heartbeat out there, I get so aggravated when the Bills are getting their asses handed to them and then you see our guys sitting on the bench, not talking to each other, just staring off into space like they don't even wanna be there. Winning football games is about attitude and so many times the Bills take the defeatist approach once the going gets rough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsPride12 Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 More quotes from yesterdays sideline incident: "That's a normal thing that happens," Whisenhunt said Monday. "It happened in the first quarter with Todd and Kurt on the sidelines. It happened with a couple of our defensive players and our defensive coaches. It's an emotional game. Yesterday was one of the most emotional you'll play in." In the locker room, Haley dismissed their sideline interaction as part of the game. Haley described himself as emotional. "Just the emotions of the game," he said. "We're emotional guys. Like I said, I wear my heart on my sleeve and that's the way I go about business and I have to deal with that on a full-time basis." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fezmid Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 I dont know about all this, but the title of your thread is the only verifiable factual aspect. Kurt Warner is a possible future HOF quarterback. Chris Kelsay is a guy who stole a bunch of money from Ralph, and knows this is the only team in the league that's dumb enough to let him start, without bringing in legit competition. Captain Kurt is a Winner. Kelsay is a soft lousy football player, with a big paycheck. Oh look, another poster who says "everyone on Buffalo sucks," while all of our former players (who also used to suck) are starting on playoff teams. Apparently they're not as sucky as some people here may have thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dean Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 You people put WAY too much emphasis on what a player says to the press...and then spin the meaning to any interpretation that works for your bias. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sisyphean Bills Posted January 20, 2009 Share Posted January 20, 2009 Todd Haley is just a maniac and "exchanges information" in an emotional way. He was the same way in Dallas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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