Jauron Should Stay

[Tcali]

According to George Carlin they finish 3rd out of a sample size of 6. Now short guys on the other hand.....

George oh George where are you????? misss the guy

[Thoner7]

Baltimore, Miami, and Atlanta prove that 'blowing things up' isn't the horrible idea that everyone makes it out to be.

 

The team has talent, enough to beat SF, Cleveland, and the Jets, unfortunately they were badly outcoached. Winning those 3 games would put the Bills into the playoffs. You can't overlook that in making the decision on a coach, especially one with extensive experience in the NFL.

 

Jauron is just not an NFL-caliber coach.

AMEN

[ThreeBillsDrive]

You can't question Jauron's effort. He tried as hard as he could to not score a touchdwn on those 2 hand offs to Oman, whoever the f k he is, on first and goal.

 

Spend some time reviewing the Bills chart and you'll have a better grip on who's on our Bills roster

[NavarreFL_Bills_Fan]

To all you Dick supporters out there....

 

I say wait until the next game is over before you make anymore posts about keeping this head coach. If the Patriots beat the Bills it will mean that they were swept in the division this year with one of the easiest schedules in the NFL and Tom Brady out all year.

 

I personnelly could care less about Jauron. I just want to see this team do well. I'm tired of the revolving door we seem to have with our coaches. If fans got their way, we would have a new coach every two years, and go thru 4-5 QBs a season.

 

Also, funny thing about the easiest schedule....the counted the Jets X2, Dolphons X2, and the Cards records from last year...things have changed a lot since then.

[BillsVet]

Lost amid this inane argument of keeping a HC is how he performs against playoff teams. DJ is 2-13 over 06 and 07 against playoff teams. The lone wins came against NYJ in 06 and WAS in 07 (who were playing their first game since Sean Taylor's death)

 

More importantly, DJ is 10-14 on the road.

 

DJ's teams in his eight seasons as HC have been outscored by 340 points.

 

This caliber of coaching from DJ will not change, as it hasn't since he took the reigns of a NFL team in 1999.

[Cynical]

I agree on your point about coaches not making it past 5 years unless they win. I'm sure that skews the stats of who is still in the coaching seat, and their respective records. BUT, at the same time, Jauron has not made it to 5 years yet. If the Bills improve and make the playoffs next year, does Jauron get a pass for the previous 3 losing seasons?

 

This is Dick "Kotite" Jauron's EIGHTH year as a head coach.

 

He has produced 1 winning season out of 8.

He has not been able to generate a winning record against the better teams in the league his entire head coaching career.

 

Enough is enough.

 

End the abortion NOW.

[Jerry Jabber]

OK everyone,

 

I know this won't be a popular idea, but I want to make the case for Dickie Jauron to stay. I know, I know. I've seen the "Ugly Truth" link, and the "Dick-o-meter." I've also been flaberghasted with some of the absolutely boneheaded calls/moves the Jauron has made (wasted timeouts, playcalls, etc...). Despite this, I think keeping him is probably the best option for the following reasons.

 

 

1. Tenured coaches tend to perform better....name one coach that has been with a team for more than 5 years that has a losing record with that team. I think the continuity goes a long way. I can only think of winning coaches.

 

2. Some of our offensive woes can and should be attributed to a rookie offensive coordinator. Turk Schonert is growing up, just like our rookie players and should be better next year.

 

3. There were flashes of a very good team. Unfortunately, they are still one of the youngest teams and still inconsistent. This is always the coaches fault. The team should only get better.

 

4. Trent Edwards is still only finishing his first full season as a starter. He has had a lot to do with the failures of the team. A little more consistency from him and a few others and the team could be headed to the playoffs.

 

5. Some of Jauron's mistakes/calls can be a doubledged sword. The runs up the middle at the end of the Cleveland game, the deferment to the second half, and the JP interception in the endzone....all plays questioned, but the alternaitives could have failed too.

 

5. Lastly, do we really want another 2-3 years of rebuilding and installation of a new offensive and defensive system?

 

Jauron & his assistants has costs us many games in his tenure with terrible play calls. Season opener 2006 vs Pats, 1. run play on 4 & 1, instead of kicking a FG. 2. Having Loseman attempt a pass in the endzone that cost us a safety.

Season opener 2007 vs the Broncos, trying a deep pass when they should have been trying to run the clock out.

MNF vs Dallas, 1. having Edwards attempt a fade pass which got intercepted. 2. Playing prevent defense which let Dallas get into FG range to win the game.

The Blizzard game vs the Browns. Not letting Lindell attempt a FG, when in FG range twice, especially since Phil Dawson made 2 FG's (1 over 40 yards). Trying a screen pass to Jackson on 4 & 5.

This years Browns game, settling for a 47 yard FG with over 30 seconds left on the clock, instead of trying to get a closer FG and take more time off the clock.

Last week vs the Jets, don't even need to mention it.

 

Plus, if you haven't read my thread about Reggie Corner & the Bills failing to realize the talent they have until someone gets injured, then read that as another reason why Jauron & Co. (except Bobby April) should get canned.

 

Finally after a month of it being cold & snowy, Jauron has the Bills practicing outside.

[thewildrabbit]

I personnelly could care less about Jauron. I just want to see this team do well. I'm tired of the revolving door we seem to have with our coaches. If fans got their way, we would have a new coach every two years, and go thru 4-5 QBs a season.

 

Also, funny thing about the easiest schedule....the counted the Jets X2, Dolphons X2, and the Cards records from last year...things have changed a lot since then.

You don't hear me complaining about the QB's the Bills have,I've been complaining all year about the asinine play calls and the fact that this OC puts the Bills QB under to much duress with the constant shotguns plays.

 

Yeah and the Bills lost to all those teams, they lost 2x to the Jets,2x to the Dolphins and to the cards

 

The teams the Bills beat were the Seahawk's 4-11 Jacksonville 5-10 Raider's 4-11 Rams 2-13 Chiefs 2-13 Chargers 7-8 Bronco's 8-7 The only team with a winning record the Bills beat were the Denver Bronco's and as spoilers.

I have a difficult time in believing that if the Bills were playing for a playoff spot against the Bronco's that they would NOT have choked and somehow managed to call the wrong plays and screw it up.

 

About the only way this team beats the Patriots next year with Brady healthy is if Scott Pioli, Matt Cassel and OC Josh McDaniels all leave for jobs elsewhere.

[Bufcomments]

As much as I want change with the front office and staff, I see the players comments about Jauron and for me that raises a red flag. If the players feel that strongly about him, then what else can we do? Even if he has an extension, we have no choice to back the guy.....

If the players like him that makes it hard to pull the trigger on getting rid of Jauron

 

They have played hard for him the last 2 week and should be on a 2 game winning streak

 

I will say this.....if they beat the Pats next week id be willing to give him 1 more year.

 

But if they get blown out like last year I would say this team needs a new coach because they have 3 straight years of 7-9 records. They had more talent than this and not getting the Ball to Lee Evans, Your best player, is straight lack off coaching.

[Jim in Anchorage]

OK everyone,

 

I know this won't be a popular idea, but I want to make the case for Dickie Jauron to stay. I know, I know. I've seen the "Ugly Truth" link, and the "Dick-o-meter." I've also been flaberghasted with some of the absolutely boneheaded calls/moves the Jauron has made (wasted timeouts, playcalls, etc...). Despite this, I think keeping him is probably the best option for the following reasons.

 

 

1. Tenured coaches tend to perform better....name one coach that has been with a team for more than 5 years that has a losing record with that team. I think the continuity goes a long way. I can only think of winning coaches.

 

2. Some of our offensive woes can and should be attributed to a rookie offensive coordinator. Turk Schonert is growing up, just like our rookie players and should be better next year.

 

3. There were flashes of a very good team. Unfortunately, they are still one of the youngest teams and still inconsistent. This is always the coaches fault. The team should only get better.

 

4. Trent Edwards is still only finishing his first full season as a starter. He has had a lot to do with the failures of the team. A little more consistency from him and a few others and the team could be headed to the playoffs.

 

5. Some of Jauron's mistakes/calls can be a doubledged sword. The runs up the middle at the end of the Cleveland game, the deferment to the second half, and the JP interception in the endzone....all plays questioned, but the alternaitives could have failed too.

 

5. Lastly, do we really want another 2-3 years of rebuilding and installation of a new offensive and defensive system?

Battered wife syndrome. "you know he didn't hit me today-its going to be alright"

[Tcali]

Battered wife syndrome. "you know he didn't hit me today-its going to be alright"

yeah exactly...thats Bills fans (a great number of them) for you

[jad1]

Battered wife syndrome. "you know he didn't hit me today-its going to be alright"

 

More like Buffalo Bills Fan syndrome: "They've sucked over the last 10 games, but they won today, so maybe they'll make the playoffs next year."

[Big Turk]

1. Tenured coaches tend to perform better....name one coach that has been with a team for more than 5 years that has a losing record with that team. I think the continuity goes a long way. I can only think of winning coaches.

 

thats not so much a point as a statement of fact. Basically its that way because coaches who don't do well with their teams are fired before they reach their 5th year. Leaving bad coaches in place so they can have continuity really doesn't make much sense. Does anyone think that Rod Marinelli or Cam Cameron would suddenly be the next coming of Bill Parcells if they had gotten more time?? So coaches become tenured because they win. They don't lose and still become tenured. If bad coaches start being given more time with their teams and start lasting 5 years, this point would go down the drain. I can't name a coach of 5 years that has a losing record, because losing coaches get fired by year 3...

 

It would be like saying name one year Buffalo has gotten less than 30 inches of snow...you can't do it because it never happens...similarly you can't name a bad coach with more than 5 years of tenure because they won't have a job that long...

 

 

That being said, I think Jauron could turn this team into a playoff contender next year or the year after...the problem for me is that with the ability to get better much faster, it irritates me that teams like Baltimore, Atlanta and Miami are all likely going to make the playoffs this year after having dreadful seasons last year. The Bills were 7-9 last year, and likely now will finish 7-9 again. Part of the problem, IMHO, is that when teams really tank and end up with 5 or less wins, they get high draft picks, and if they make good picks, they can improve dramatically quicker than teams that continuously finish with 7-9 wins and keep missing the playoffs....

 

However, I think Jauron has not maximized his potential talent this year...obviously Edwards being out for those games didn't help with JP Loserman doing what he does best(losing) in his absence, but if they would have decided to really run the ball like they have the past 5 or 6 weeks, Losman could have been used in a more conservative way with rollouts, bootlegs and other playcalls to utilize his scrambling abilties... I personally think this team as constructed was capable of making the playoffs. Another way of saying it is that if we had a top head coach(Fisher, Bellichick, etc), this team would have won the division this year...

 

Is Jauron going to win us a super bowl here? Doubtful. I do think he can take us to the playoffs and I don't think the Bills would hire anyone better than him anyways, so why make a change just to make a change?

[Tcali]

thats not so much a point as a statement of fact. Basically its that way because coaches who don't do well with their teams are fired before they reach their 5th year. Leaving bad coaches in place so they can have continuity really doesn't make much sense. Does anyone think that Rod Marinelli or Cam Cameron would suddenly be the next coming of Bill Parcells if they had gotten more time?? So coaches become tenured because they win. They don't lose and still become tenured. If bad coaches start being given more time with their teams and start lasting 5 years, this point would go down the drain. I can't name a coach of 5 years that has a losing record, because losing coaches get fired by year 3...

 

It would be like saying name one year Buffalo has gotten less than 30 inches of snow...you can't do it because it never happens...similarly you can't name a bad coach with more than 5 years of tenure because they won't have a job that long...

 

 

That being said, I think Jauron could turn this team into a playoff contender next year or the year after...the problem for me is that with the ability to get better much faster, it irritates me that teams like Baltimore, Atlanta and Miami are all likely going to make the playoffs this year after having dreadful seasons last year. The Bills were 7-9 last year, and likely now will finish 7-9 again. Part of the problem, IMHO, is that when teams really tank and end up with 5 or less wins, they get high draft picks, and if they make good picks, they can improve dramatically quicker than teams that continuously finish with 7-9 wins and keep missing the playoffs....

 

However, I think Jauron has not maximized his potential talent this year...obviously Edwards being out for those games didn't help with JP Loserman doing what he does best(losing) in his absence, but if they would have decided to really run the ball like they have the past 5 or 6 weeks, Losman could have been used in a more conservative way with rollouts, bootlegs and other playcalls to utilize his scrambling abilties... I personally think this team as constructed was capable of making the playoffs. Another way of saying it is that if we had a top head coach(Fisher, Bellichick, etc), this team would have won the division this year...

 

Is Jauron going to win us a super bowl here? Doubtful. I do think he can take us to the playoffs and I don't think the Bills would hire anyone better than him anyways, so why make a change just to make a change?

while I may disagree with your overall premise--you do make several excellent points and you presented it well. I think you slightly overestimate our team as presently constructed. We don't have the passrush or the run blocking to be a serious playoff team.

[Jim in Anchorage]

More like Buffalo Bills Fan syndrome: "They've sucked over the last 10 games, but they won today, so maybe they'll make the playoffs next year."

Years.Not games.

[billsfanmiami(oh)]

If the players like him that makes it hard to pull the trigger on getting rid of Jauron

 

They have played hard for him the last 2 week and should be on a 2 game winning streak

 

I will say this.....if they beat the Pats next week id be willing to give him 1 more year.

 

But if they get blown out like last year I would say this team needs a new coach because they have 3 straight years of 7-9 records. They had more talent than this and not getting the Ball to Lee Evans, Your best player, is straight lack off coaching.

 

 

But they're not on a 2 game win streak, and it's a direct result of the coach. I've said this before but of course they all like Jauron. Wouldn't you love your boss if you knew you could F up and probably not even have a word said to you about it? Jauron is a nice guy, but is a p*ssy and a proven looser. We need to upgrade some talent, but we need a coach in here who will light a fire under some guys and actually have a team ready when a game REALLY means something.

[John from Riverside]

Like I said, his play calls are always going to be questioned, but the alternatives could been just as bad or worse. If he passed, becuase the RB's were gassed, we be complaining about the stupid play calling

 

I respect your opinion....but with all due respect this is the syndrom called "comfortable in the cage"

[Bufcomments]

But they're not on a 2 game win streak, and it's a direct result of the coach. I've said this before but of course they all like Jauron. Wouldn't you love your boss if you knew you could F up and probably not even have a word said to you about it? Jauron is a nice guy, but is a p*ssy and a proven looser. We need to upgrade some talent, but we need a coach in here who will light a fire under some guys and actually have a team ready when a game REALLY means something.

 

Well i agree that they should beat somebody that are going to the playoffs but......

 

If the players didnt like him they would have blown off the last two games and we have seen a few Bills teams in the past that have run for the bus in the end of the season

 

I dont like Jauron that much myself dont get me wrong....

 

But the players are still playing for him and that carries alot of weight when making a coaching decision

 

Plus you know Ralph doesnt have the Balls to eat his contract so there u go...we stuck and suck

[I hate the Bills !]

Rebuilding can be done in 1 year look at Miami, Atlanta, iF ATLANTA wins next week and Carolina loses Atlanta is Divison champs! The problem in buffalo is we do things slowly like at a turtle pace.... so Ralph can understand.

 

We need to go out and get the players we want, not all these lockerroom guys and character guys, I am so sick of hearing that. Cant we just get guys who know how to play the game well, and dont shoot themself or others with a gun while at a bar. That shouldnt be to hard. Oh yeah ralph you gotta loosen up the purse strings, and go after the best.

 

We have been medicore for way to long since Kelly, Thurman Andre etc all left. Its time for next step forward !

 

Beating the Pats and knocking them from the playoffs would be a good first start !

[TheChimp]

We have no choice other then "try" to support him......

That's absolutely not true. That's prisoner mentality.