John from Riverside Posted October 26, 2004 Share Posted October 26, 2004 Play? If so.....does he bring anything to this team that would make you think he could give it a spark? Is he at all mobile? Can he throw a screen pass? Does he have a quick release? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoachChuckDickerson Posted October 26, 2004 Share Posted October 26, 2004 Will he lead us to an 11-5 record? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaska Darin Posted October 26, 2004 Share Posted October 26, 2004 Play? If so.....does he bring anything to this team that would make you think he could give it a spark? Is he at all mobile? Can he throw a screen pass? Does he have a quick release? 86396[/snapback] Matthews makes good decisions but lacks the arm strength to throw passes of any distance or in bad weather. He's more mobile than Drew and a better ball handler. I wouldn't say he has a quick release, but he makes up for that by knowing where to throw the ball. He's never had great receivers to throw to or played in a dynamic scheme. He'd be a disaster in any game with a stiff wind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taterhill Posted October 26, 2004 Share Posted October 26, 2004 Will he lead us to an 11-5 record? 86402[/snapback] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeRay Posted October 26, 2004 Share Posted October 26, 2004 can he lead us to about a 3-13 record?... which is about as good as Bledsoe will do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuckincincy Posted October 26, 2004 Share Posted October 26, 2004 Matthews makes good decisions but lacks the arm strength to throw passes of any distance or in bad weather. He's more mobile than Drew and a better ball handler. I wouldn't say he has a quick release, but he makes up for that by knowing where to throw the ball. He's never had great receivers to throw to. He'd be a disaster in any game with a stiff wind. 86410[/snapback] Throwing passes in a stiff wind is seldom recommended. That's a situation where decision-making ability goes to the top of the list. A few years ago, the Bengals hired Neil O'Donnell. Dyn-O-Mite long arm? Hardly. He played on a weak club, and pitched something like 11 td's and 2 int's - despite the overall crappy nature of the team, he worked with what he had. And even though the team went nowhere, he sure didn't kill them with bonehead actions. He stupidly got run out of town by the fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaska Darin Posted October 26, 2004 Share Posted October 26, 2004 Throwing passes in a stiff wind is seldom recommended. That's a situation where decision-making ability goes to the top of the list. 86418[/snapback] The problem is he REALLY can't throw the ball more than about 10 yards if the wind is blowing. It's truly pathetic to watch. The biggest reason we actually have ONE win is Drew's arm strength.** Please do not respond to this line with the same "ad nauseum" anti-Bledsoe arguments. I know he sucks and have for quite sometime. You'll simply be wasting time and bandwidth. Help a brother out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plenzmd1 Posted October 26, 2004 Share Posted October 26, 2004 Play? If so.....does he bring anything to this team that would make you think he could give it a spark? Is he at all mobile? Can he throw a screen pass? Does he have a quick release? 86396[/snapback] Watched him play in DC for Spurrier. Pretty awful, makes bad decisions in the red zone, but he played for a coach who had bad blocking schemes for an overmatched oline, tried trick plays on fourth and two, looked lost on the road, and really did not help his team win with his play. Guess I saw Bledsoe Lite when he was here and starting! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest_rolly_* Posted October 26, 2004 Share Posted October 26, 2004 the real question here is: DOES HE EXECUTE??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted October 26, 2004 Share Posted October 26, 2004 but he played for a coach who had bad blocking schemes for an overmatched oline, tried trick plays on fourth and two, looked lost on the road, and really did not help his team win with his play. 86424[/snapback] sounds like he'd fit right in with the Bills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeRay Posted October 26, 2004 Share Posted October 26, 2004 I'll say this about Matthews.... he sure has an affinity for seeking out and playing for teams that suck...Bears, Panthers, Redskins, and now the Bills. Every team he's played for has sucked at the time he was on their roster. I guess the moral of the story is that the bills suck and they needed an extra QB on their roster that was a compliment to their losing ways... apparently Bledsoe wasn't enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted October 26, 2004 Author Share Posted October 26, 2004 There is of course a reason why I ask this...... Folks know that Bledsoe is part of the problem but certainly is the answer......and I am just trying to figure out in my own mind if he is a better FIT for this particular team right now (Until Losman is healthy) - I know he doesn't have arm strength.....the thing is....we can block long enough to throw downfield anyway.....so wouldn't he be a better fit - If he can move around at all he might buy more time for our receivers - If he makes better decisions that might be good for us as we keep hearing about scenario after scenario where somebody was open but Drew forced it to his primary target I am just saying that I am not totally sure that giving him a shot till Losman gets back wouldn't be a GOOD thing......it might allow this team to gain some confidence....AND he knows he is the #2....so no contiversy. Just thought I would throw that out there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuckincincy Posted October 26, 2004 Share Posted October 26, 2004 The problem is he REALLY can't throw the ball more than about 10 yards if the wind is blowing. It's truly pathetic to watch. The biggest reason we actually have ONE win is Drew's arm strength.** Please do not respond to this line with the same "ad nauseum" anti-Bledsoe arguments. I know he sucks and have for quite sometime. You'll simply be wasting time and bandwidth. Help a brother out. 86422[/snapback] Were it possible to track "anti-DB" posts you would find that I'm in the lowest percentile. Stop painting with a broad brush. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaska Darin Posted October 26, 2004 Share Posted October 26, 2004 Were it possible to track "anti-DB" posts you would find that I'm in the lowest percentile. Stop painting with a broad brush. 86438[/snapback] That wasn't directed at anyone in particular. Just a blanket statement. Stop being defensive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nervous Guy Posted October 26, 2004 Share Posted October 26, 2004 That wasn't directed at anyone in particular. Just a blanket statement. Stop being defensive. 86446[/snapback] maybe I should ban him! BTW I really enjoyed the blanket statement... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaska Darin Posted October 26, 2004 Share Posted October 26, 2004 maybe I should ban him! BTW I really enjoyed the blanket statement... 86454[/snapback] Pandora's Box has been opened and one of the Sith Lords holds the key. Let all those who pass by this hallowed ground take heed, thou may be foresaken on a simple whim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDH Posted October 26, 2004 Share Posted October 26, 2004 He'd be a disaster in any game with a stiff wind. 86410[/snapback] As opposed to DB, who the above statement is true if you take off the "with a stiff wind." part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuckincincy Posted October 26, 2004 Share Posted October 26, 2004 That wasn't directed at anyone in particular. Just a blanket statement. Stop being defensive. 86446[/snapback] My esteemed petard, isn't a blanket statement similar to painting with a broad brush, or am I mistaken? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaska Darin Posted October 26, 2004 Share Posted October 26, 2004 My esteemed petard, isn't a blanket statement similar to painting with a broad brush, or am I mistaken? 86479[/snapback] Petard? I'm surprised someone here knows what that means. You French or something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nervous Guy Posted October 26, 2004 Share Posted October 26, 2004 My esteemed petard, isn't a blanket statement similar to painting with a broad brush, or am I mistaken? 86479[/snapback] ouch. That french comeback was pretty good Darin.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuckincincy Posted October 26, 2004 Share Posted October 26, 2004 Petard? I'm surprised someone here knows what that means. You French or something? 86488[/snapback] No. Just a beneficiary of an education back when kids shut up and learned facts and didn't agonize over self-esteem or got pumped up with drugs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaska Darin Posted October 26, 2004 Share Posted October 26, 2004 No. Just a beneficiary of an education back when kids shut up and learned facts and didn't agonize over self-esteem or got pumped up with drugs. 86504[/snapback] Wistfully remembering those days... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Poojer Posted October 26, 2004 Share Posted October 26, 2004 There you go again John. Throwing reasonable thought in to the mix. When will you learn? Play? If so.....does he bring anything to this team that would make you think he could give it a spark? Is he at all mobile? Can he throw a screen pass? Does he have a quick release? 86396[/snapback] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted October 26, 2004 Share Posted October 26, 2004 can he lead us to about a 3-13 record?... which is about as good as Bledsoe will do. 86414[/snapback] Incorrect...with Bledsoe the Bills go 1-15. I'd say 3-13 would be an improvement. Besides, whoever QB's the next few weeks is just minding the store until JP Losman is ready. PTR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted October 26, 2004 Share Posted October 26, 2004 No one is saying Shane Matthews is the next Jim Kelly. But c'mon! We are arguing whether to bench a guy who is way beyond 'SUCK!" I mean Drew Bledsoe has set the bar pretty low. The Bills supposedly were going to use a ball-control offense. Well you don't need arm strength, you need accuarcy, and some pocket presence. I see no reason why you can't give Matthews a try. All were doing is waiting for JP to heal anyway. Bledsoe's career as the Bills QB is O-V-E-R!!! Deal with it. PTR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted October 26, 2004 Share Posted October 26, 2004 Play? If so.....does he bring anything to this team that would make you think he could give it a spark? Is he at all mobile? Can he throw a screen pass? Does he have a quick release? 86396[/snapback] I didn't get to see him with the Bears, but I did watch him play several games with the Skins. SM will not add a "spark" like a JP might. He is a journeyman QB. SM is not what I would call "mobile", but he has superior pocket presence to DB and will be able to avoid some of the sacks that DB is taking. SM can definitely throw a screen pass, and is not bad at play-faking. As others have said, he doesn't have a strong arm at all. You can forget about throwing any long passes with him on the field. But he can be effective in a short passing game, especially with weapons like Moulds, Evans, & Willis (he had nothing with the Skins). SM doesn't have a particularly quick release. SM will make some mistakes, but nothing as boneheaded as what we've seen from Drew. He is very intelligent and is much more aware of what is going on than DB. IF SM had started the Ravens game, the Bills would have won IMO. Deion wouldn't have 2 INTs, because SM wouldn't have thrown either of those passes. Nor would he have thrown at Lee Evans with Ray all over him to draw the penalty. He could've hit the wide-open Moulds, & he might've seen the wide-open TH for TDs... we saw what Drew did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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