JStranger76 Posted October 15, 2008 Share Posted October 15, 2008 Count me in on going after Jason Brown. Sure, it hurts when we could have just drafted him instead of Puke Preston and we obviously will have to build almost the entire O line by free agency but it needs to be done. There are also two center prospects coming out in Alex Mack and Jonathan Luigs who I like so hopefully we finally get it right this offseason at the center position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cynical Posted October 15, 2008 Share Posted October 15, 2008 Ellison, Simpson, Kyle Williams, and to a certain degree Butler are fringe starters at best. I'd argue that Youboty is the best of the bunch, aside from Donte of course. Of course, claiming Ellison is a "starter" is a stretch to begin with. If it was not for Crowell's surgery/non-surgery, and subsequent placement on IR, Ellison is riding the bench this year. At this point, I think it's obvious Ellison is on the short list to be replaced this upcoming off-season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramius Posted October 15, 2008 Share Posted October 15, 2008 Of course, claiming Ellison is a "starter" is a stretch to begin with. If it was not for Crowell's surgery/non-surgery, and subsequent placement on IR, Ellison is riding the bench this year. At this point, I think it's obvious Ellison is on the short list to be replaced this upcoming off-season. There's a need to get a better starter than Ellison on the field, but there's no need to cut him or get rid of him. Ellison is a solid backup LB/coverage LB. And for a 6th round pick, i'll take that in any draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astrobot Posted October 15, 2008 Share Posted October 15, 2008 Count me in on going after Jason Brown. Sure, it hurts when we could have just drafted him instead of Puke Preston and we obviously will have to build almost the entire O line by free agency but it needs to be done. There are also two center prospects coming out in Alex Mack and Jonathan Luigs who I like so hopefully we finally get it right this offseason at the center position. The last DraftTek.com simulation had us taking Luigs, as MAck wasn't there when we picked-- 5th from the end of RD#1! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orton's Arm Posted October 15, 2008 Share Posted October 15, 2008 The last DraftTek.com simulation had us taking Luigs, as MAck wasn't there when we picked-- 5th from the end of RD#1! If Mack is expected to be significantly better than Luigs, I wouldn't have any problem with the idea of using our 3rd round pick to trade up for Mack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan in San Diego Posted October 15, 2008 Share Posted October 15, 2008 Have we found out yet what the draft pick was ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ieatcrayonz Posted October 16, 2008 Share Posted October 16, 2008 "Private companies have virtually no obligation to publicly distribute financial and other strategic information which can be used by its competitors."http://www.sec.gov/info/smallbus/pnealis.pdf I'd be interested to find out if you are sticking with this claim after the trade was reversed because McCargo "failed his physical". It's a pretty big coincidence that this got reported late and was summarily reversed don't you think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebug Posted October 16, 2008 Share Posted October 16, 2008 I'd be interested to find out if you are sticking with this claim after the trade was reversed because McCargo "failed his physical". It's a pretty big coincidence that this got reported late and was summarily reversed don't you think? Why would'nt they just say the trade was reversed because of some "late reporting" violation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerball Posted October 16, 2008 Share Posted October 16, 2008 Why would'nt they just say the trade was reversed because of some "late reporting" violation? And pay the fines that go along with it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ieatcrayonz Posted October 16, 2008 Share Posted October 16, 2008 And pay the fines that go along with it? It has nothing to do with the fines. I'm sure those are being paid. The Feds are looking pretty bad right now with the economic turmoil and my guess is that they didn't want to look even worse. They probably didn't report this as a Sox violation because if it looked like the NFL was trying to get around Sox then others might try. One big bank trying to get around Sox because the NFL did would make the markets very jittery. The quieter the better for the Feds. Behind closed doors Goodell is getting lambasted by the Feds over this. You may have noticed that the return of McCargo has been pretty hush hush. ESPN is spending a lot of cycles on "reaction" to the Roy Williams trade which was done on time but little to none on a reversal like this. The whole thing with Pacman is also a smokescreen that is starting to unravel as you can see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebug Posted October 16, 2008 Share Posted October 16, 2008 It has nothing to do with the fines. I'm sure those are being paid. The Feds are looking pretty bad right now with the economic turmoil and my guess is that they didn't want to look even worse. They probably didn't report this as a Sox violation because if it looked like the NFL was trying to get around Sox then others might try. One big bank trying to get around Sox because the NFL did would make the markets very jittery. The quieter the better for the Feds. Behind closed doors Goodell is getting lambasted by the Feds over this. You may have noticed that the return of McCargo has been pretty hush hush. ESPN is spending a lot of cycles on "reaction" to the Roy Williams trade which was done on time but little to none on a reversal like this. The whole thing with Pacman is also a smokescreen that is starting to unravel as you can see. I bet the Cowboys didn't even want Williams but the trade was forced on them by the league to cover-up this up. GO BILLS! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2020 Our Year For Sure Posted October 16, 2008 Share Posted October 16, 2008 The best thing about crayonz is that he's actually one of the most clever posters around here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cynical Posted October 17, 2008 Share Posted October 17, 2008 There's a need to get a better starter than Ellison on the field, but there's no need to cut him or get rid of him. Ellison is a solid backup LB/coverage LB. And for a 6th round pick, i'll take that in any draft. Sorry. I was not trying to imply they should get rid of the guy, but they would be looking to replace Ellison in the starting line up with somebody else. Ellison is clearly a back up LB, and to call him a "starter" in order to promote the idea a certain draft was good is dubious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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