The Mayor of Buffalo Posted August 11, 2008 Share Posted August 11, 2008 I couldn't care less about the negativity, but think that ANYONE out there who is going to be part of discussions of yet another QB controversy is a complete idiot. Stability is apparently underrated in Buffalo...and J.P. has already proved OVER AND OVER again that he's not competent enough to be a starting Quarterback at this level. Is Edwards the answers?? I don't know, but I'm not going to get worried over a "bad performance" from a guy that took 9 snaps on Saturday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndirish1978 Posted August 11, 2008 Share Posted August 11, 2008 Sorry but I couldn't care less. The mob here got a dose of reality last night and now they have to start dealing with it. It's ok to talk frankly about our "flawed" team. It's actually a healthy thing to do. Sometimes I wonder why people intentionally do things that will obviously have a negative result. How for example has 1billsfan posted here thousands of times when he is universally hated? Is there a reason you come here to be negative? You could have said the SAME thing you said in your post, but not come off as a pompous moron. For example: JP looked fairly good in the passing game, while Trent played poorly, why aren't we talking QB controversy? I encourage people to put 1bilssfan on their ignore list. Unless, that is, you enjoy freaking out when he makes his normal imbecile comments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJ1 Posted August 11, 2008 Share Posted August 11, 2008 If memory serves, they cancelled the last day of one of those 3-day thingees - saying that things looked good or some sort of hogwash. That was when the Lynch hit 'n run thing was ongoing. My impression of dropping the last day was so they could clam up. Attended camp last Wednesday. Running plays were 2 yards and a cloud of dust. Passing attack was better. JP was sharper than TE. Tons of standing around doing nothing. Players sauntering from practice position to practice position. Absolutely no hustle exhibited by anyone. Not a single audible cheer from the onlookers related to onfield happenings. What do I see in first pre-season? Same thing I saw in practice...essentially nothing. Team picks up where they finished last season. Bills need a head coaching change BADLY. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buftex Posted August 11, 2008 Share Posted August 11, 2008 Because preseason games are not much more than an indication of what needs to be worked on in practice. They fine tune things in practice, not in games. Once you see what the problems are, there is no need to repeat them I guess that appears to make sense, even if it doesn't! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PNW_Bills_Fan Posted August 11, 2008 Share Posted August 11, 2008 Is sitting the starters to find out who is going to make the team a smart decision? Most teams do it. Yes we were 7-9 last year. Yes, we had lots of injuries. The problem is if we are playing our starters a lot then the coaches will not see who needs to be cut. I agree the starters need more live action time to gel together. I still think this was the first PS game and needs to be taken at face value. I think 3 and 4 will tell us a whole lot more than 1 and 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1billsfan Posted August 11, 2008 Author Share Posted August 11, 2008 Is there a reason you come here to be negative? Yes, it's because I got tired of reading and hearing how "great" the Bills are going to be from the fans, local media and players. I'm tired of the hype machine. It's my only way to fight the over confidence tide. Last year made me an angry fan. I can't stand the coach, I can't stand players guaranteeing playoffs, I can't stand them laying down at the beginning and the end of every season. Ever since the "Music City Miracle" hey have NEVER lived up to the hype. Last week I got hammered at my negative comments about the Bills. Well they not only looked bad, but downright pathetic a few nights ago. But you and others felt the need to hit me hard whenever I would have anything negative to say about the Bills. I think you need to toughen up, just like your Fighting Irish, we might be in for a long season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PNW_Bills_Fan Posted August 11, 2008 Share Posted August 11, 2008 Making points is legitimate. Just coming across as negative and mad is what people don't like. You can prove a point without taking it to an extreme. So you didn't like what you saw on Saturday. I am not sure any of us liked what we saw. We are just not ready to write this team off based on the first preseason game. You just seemed to take a huge jump after one preseason game. I am not sure this team makes the playoffs. I am not sure how good this team will be. I am hoping for a 9-7 season. I am not sure we are much better then that talent wise. I think we are on the rise. I do not think we are far off from being a borderline great team. We need a couple things to fall into place. If they do then we will be good for a long time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuckincincy Posted August 11, 2008 Share Posted August 11, 2008 Making points is legitimate. Just coming across as negative and mad is what people don't like. You can prove a point without taking it to an extreme. So you didn't like what you saw on Saturday. I am not sure any of us liked what we saw. We are just not ready to write this team off based on the first preseason game. You just seemed to take a huge jump after one preseason game. I am not sure this team makes the playoffs. I am not sure how good this team will be. I am hoping for a 9-7 season. I am not sure we are much better then that talent wise. I think we are on the rise. I do not think we are far off from being a borderline great team. We need a couple things to fall into place. If they do then we will be good for a long time. Good post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramius Posted August 11, 2008 Share Posted August 11, 2008 Yes, it's because I got tired of reading and hearing how "great" the Bills are going to be from the fans, local media and players. I'm tired of the hype machine. It's my only way to fight the over confidence tide. Last year made me an angry fan. I can't stand the coach, I can't stand players guaranteeing playoffs, I can't stand them laying down at the beginning and the end of every season. Ever since the "Music City Miracle" hey have NEVER lived up to the hype. Last week I got hammered at my negative comments about the Bills. Well they not only looked bad, but downright pathetic a few nights ago. But you and others felt the need to hit me hard whenever I would have anything negative to say about the Bills. I think you need to toughen up, just like your Fighting Irish, we might be in for a long season. You must be a miserable person. Why do you have such a problem with people getting excited about a team going into the season? Most of us are fans, so thats what we do, we get excited when the season starts. Just because YOU hate the coach doesnt mean everyone else does. You want people to pay attention to you? Stop posting like a fuggin 4 year old. Try doing some analysis of why you think they didnt play well and what can be done to correct the problems instead of your normal worthless drivel, which consists of nothing more than "the bills suck, dick jauron sucks, everything else sucks." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nodnarb Posted August 11, 2008 Share Posted August 11, 2008 Yes, it's because I got tired of reading and hearing how "great" the Bills are going to be from the fans, local media and players. I'm tired of the hype machine. It's my only way to fight the over confidence tide. Last year made me an angry fan. I can't stand the coach, I can't stand players guaranteeing playoffs, I can't stand them laying down at the beginning and the end of every season. Ever since the "Music City Miracle" hey have NEVER lived up to the hype. Last week I got hammered at my negative comments about the Bills. Well they not only looked bad, but downright pathetic a few nights ago. But you and others felt the need to hit me hard whenever I would have anything negative to say about the Bills. I think you need to toughen up, just like your Fighting Irish, we might be in for a long season. You are one miserable dude. Why not wait and see how the season unfolds before you start throwing lamps at the Misery Party? Lighten up, it's football. And we'll be good. World beaters? Not likely. But good. Hey, I promise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndirish1978 Posted August 11, 2008 Share Posted August 11, 2008 You're the kind of guy that knocks ice cream out of a kid's hand cause he just shouldn't be that happy- life is tough. Let me get this straight. You are frustrated, so you come on here and bash everything about the team ad nauseum. Exactly what do you get out of that? I was going to put you on ignore, but instead I am renaming you Eeyore, cause you're simply the most miserable person I have come across. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chilly Posted August 11, 2008 Share Posted August 11, 2008 In this instance...no touch...fastball (least that's what I think he means). Yeah, that's what I thought Theisman was talking about. Funny part is, buftex and I were watching the game right next to each other. It was in a bar though, so I could easily be wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongLiveRalph Posted August 11, 2008 Share Posted August 11, 2008 I love the complete disregard for the fact that there is a difference between a team playing their second game (Skins) versus the Bills playing their first game. People are really shocked the Bills didn't look efficient and cohesive? They haven't looked that way in 8 years!! Why were we expecting it in the first live action in months, against a team who has already mixed it up? Relax folks, relax. The Bills are going to give you some incredible Sundays this year, and there will be others where you're not sure why you even bother watching this garbage team. And then six days later, you'll be cheering them on again. Two things that bothered me: 1) I understand they have offensive scripted plays to start games, but Schoenert should've sent Lee Evans into the end zone on PLAY 1. Tell Trent to hit Evans or throw it 7-yards out of back of the end zone if he's covered. I think it could've gone a long way, after an unexpected turnover, to show the entire team that this is a new offense. 2) On the Bills 2nd FG drive, they never once threw into the end zone. I remember they had a game last season where they had 5-6 trips into the red zone and not once did they attempt a pass in the 10-yard scoring area. You get ZERO points for a pass over the middle to the 4-yard line. I was wondering why they bothered drafting Hardy- thankfully Losman went to him next time they got down there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buftex Posted August 11, 2008 Share Posted August 11, 2008 I was wondering why they bothered drafting Hardy- thankfully Losman went to him next time they got down there. That was a thing of beauty...we never see passes like that, these days.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buftex Posted August 11, 2008 Share Posted August 11, 2008 Yeah, that's what I thought Theisman was talking about. Funny part is, buftex and I were watching the game right next to each other. It was in a bar though, so I could easily be wrong. The voices in my head were making too much noise...you are probably right. Just the play he said it, JP threw a high pass to Parrish, IIRC! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
todd Posted August 12, 2008 Share Posted August 12, 2008 I'd just like to say that Carson Palmer had a crappy preaseason game. 2 of 6 for like 7 yards. cut him. He sucks as bad as edwards! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ieatcrayonz Posted August 12, 2008 Share Posted August 12, 2008 I'd just like to say that Carson Palmer had a crappy preaseason game. 2 of 6 for like 7 yards. cut him. He sucks as bad as edwards! Did he wear gloves? Green Bay can be chilly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krazykat Posted August 12, 2008 Share Posted August 12, 2008 I couldn't care less about the negativity, but think that ANYONE out there who is going to be part of discussions of yet another QB controversy is a complete idiot. Stability is apparently underrated in Buffalo...and J.P. has already proved OVER AND OVER again that he's not competent enough to be a starting Quarterback at this level. Is Edwards the answers?? I don't know, but I'm not going to get worried over a "bad performance" from a guy that took 9 snaps on Saturday. You hit the nail right on the head, but far too few people understand that here. No QB we've had has had the support of the coaching staff for a full two seasons yet since Bledsoe left. Ironically it was Bledsoe that had it for what, four years. Once the problems are understood, then people can rant about them in forums like this and put some public pressure on the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted August 12, 2008 Share Posted August 12, 2008 I'd just like to say that Carson Palmer had a crappy preaseason game. 2 of 6 for like 7 yards. cut him. He sucks as bad as edwards! The point about Edwards not playing well is he looked shakey, as he did at the end of last year. He completed less than 60% of his passes last year threw more INTS than TDs and had a 73 QB rating. All of which was adaquite IMO. But in the offseason i never heard anything about him other than he put on ten pounds of muscle. With the hype here on the board and in the media i think most bills fans were expecting a better performance Plus Edwards is no where near Carson Palmer as a starter. Edwards has to prove he is the guy because our entire season rests on his shoulders. Preseason or not he has to play better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lilannie Posted August 15, 2008 Share Posted August 15, 2008 ...sure enjoyed last nights game. Excuse #1..."Hey, it's just preseason. Edwards and the other Bills starters are just pretending to be bad." Last night I saw a head coach who's still clueless, a starting QB who still has a weak arm and won't throw the ball deep and offensive and defensive lines that are really really bad. And if you have a problem with my negativity, then as Mr. Barnes would say...I couldn't care any less. ahem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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