PromoTheRobot Posted February 4, 2006 Share Posted February 4, 2006 http://www.buffalonews.com/editorial/20060204/1026849.asp A**hole owners like Jerry Jones, Bob Kraft, and Daniel Snyder are determined to create a haves-vs-have-nots NFL, much like Major League Baseball. These f**ks want to destroy the house that Pete Rozelle built. This is NOT good for Buffalo at all! PTR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BB2004 Posted February 4, 2006 Share Posted February 4, 2006 http://www.buffalonews.com/editorial/20060204/1026849.asp A**hole owners like Jerry Jones, Bob Kraft, and Daniel Snyder are determined to create a haves-vs-have-nots NFL, much like Major League Baseball. These f**ks want to destroy the house that Pete Rozelle built. This is NOT good for Buffalo at all! PTR 594152[/snapback] They will get it right. I don't think they want another situation where there would be a strike. Hopefully Paul Tagliabue and his staff will make sure that there is a salary cap each and every year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsGuyInMalta Posted February 4, 2006 Share Posted February 4, 2006 Yesterday afternoon they were talking about this on ESPNews, and all of them agreed it was just Tags trying to kick the players union in the butt. They all agreed that a deal would be reached, saying that both sides are just trying to see if they can make the other blink...but when time starts to run out, they'll cram out a new deal for sure. Too much at stake for them not to, right now they are just trying to see who can get the best deal. Nowhere near the NHL or MLB situations of the last few years. Think about it, its not just Buffalo who'd go down if there is no salary cap...the NFL would watch Buffalo, Green Bay, Pittsburgh, Kansas City, Jacksonville, Baltimore and Tampa Bay just die. There is no way that Tags wants his lasting memory to be the man who killed off those great teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eSJayDee Posted February 4, 2006 Share Posted February 4, 2006 Sorry, I couldn't get over the inaccuracy of the 1st statement about the 40th ANNIVERSARY of the SB. Was there a SB one year b4 SB I that I missed? I realize that Roman numerals aren't well suited for arithmatic functions, but best I can figure XL - I = XXXIX. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan in San Diego Posted February 4, 2006 Share Posted February 4, 2006 Sorry, I couldn't get over the inaccuracy of the 1st statement about the 40th ANNIVERSARY of the SB. Was there a SB one year b4 SB I that I missed?I realize that Roman numerals aren't well suited for arithmatic functions, but best I can figure XL - I = XXXIX. 594186[/snapback] Yes you got it ! I forget which grade but I had to do math in Roman numerals one year in Elementary School. I though it was fun ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marv's Neighbor Posted February 4, 2006 Share Posted February 4, 2006 Sorry, I couldn't get over the inaccuracy of the 1st statement about the 40th ANNIVERSARY of the SB. Was there a SB one year b4 SB I that I missed?I realize that Roman numerals aren't well suited for arithmatic functions, but best I can figure XL - I = XXXIX. 594186[/snapback] That's why nobody uses those freakin Roman Numerals anymore! Too confusing for all the children left behind. Now if we could just kick the metric system out we'd be just fine! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fezmid Posted February 4, 2006 Share Posted February 4, 2006 Umm, didn't the networks pay more than $24M to televise games...? "Upshaw said there wouldn't be a lockout or strike if the union was decertified. Asked if the league owners would use replacement players if there is no deal when the contract expires, Upshaw said the major television networks would have something to say about that. CBS, NBC, FOX and ESPN recently paid $24 million for the rights to televise NFL games." CW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMadCap Posted February 5, 2006 Share Posted February 5, 2006 Now if we could just kick the metric system out we'd be just fine! 594196[/snapback] BLASPHEMY!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cåblelady Posted February 5, 2006 Share Posted February 5, 2006 Now if we could just kick the metric system out we'd be just fine! 594196[/snapback] Amen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted February 5, 2006 Share Posted February 5, 2006 http://www.buffalonews.com/editorial/20060204/1026849.asp A**hole owners like Jerry Jones, Bob Kraft, and Daniel Snyder are determined to create a haves-vs-have-nots NFL, much like Major League Baseball. These f**ks want to destroy the house that Pete Rozelle built. This is NOT good for Buffalo at all! PTR 594152[/snapback] Success in a parity driven system is what has made the Redskins and Cowboys what they are, instead of being the Nationals and Rangers. But mystique only goes so far when the NY teams have free market dollars and are winning every year. The only real solution is to have almost complete revenue sharing, otherwise guys like Snyder and JJ will always be looking for that extra little revenue stream to get an edge on the other. That's what they are doing now, and they could easily undermine their enormous house of cards, see their league split up and lose their free pass to violate anti-trust law. Face it, the NFL is better protected by the government than the US postal service, for chrissake. When push comes to shove, these owners know it, they are just angling for that last extra penny from each other, and the players. It'll get done because the NFL has it so good. Bill Gates wishes he had it so easy as Paul Allen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typical TBD Guy Posted February 5, 2006 Share Posted February 5, 2006 Now if we could just kick the metric system out we'd be just fine! 594196[/snapback] NO!!!!!!!!!! The metric system is MUCH better than the American/English system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted February 5, 2006 Share Posted February 5, 2006 http://www.buffalonews.com/editorial/20060204/1026849.asp A**hole owners like Jerry Jones, Bob Kraft, and Daniel Snyder are determined to create a haves-vs-have-nots NFL, much like Major League Baseball. These f**ks want to destroy the house that Pete Rozelle built. This is NOT good for Buffalo at all! PTR 594152[/snapback] PTR...I agree 100%. I think the Houston owner whose name escapes me is also part of the "new breed" of greedy owners. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted February 5, 2006 Author Share Posted February 5, 2006 Success in a parity driven system is what has made the Redskins and Cowboys what they are, instead of being the Nationals and Rangers. But mystique only goes so far when the NY teams have free market dollars and are winning every year. The only real solution is to have almost complete revenue sharing, otherwise guys like Snyder and JJ will always be looking for that extra little revenue stream to get an edge on the other. That's what they are doing now, and they could easily undermine their enormous house of cards, see their league split up and lose their free pass to violate anti-trust law. Face it, the NFL is better protected by the government than the US postal service, for chrissake. When push comes to shove, these owners know it, they are just angling for that last extra penny from each other, and the players. It'll get done because the NFL has it so good. Bill Gates wishes he had it so easy as Paul Allen. 594825[/snapback] True, but I also think owners like Jones and Kraft would prefer competing in a two-tiered NFL, where the same 8-10 teams go to the playoffs every year (their teams) and the rest are cannon fodder. Playoffs=extra revenue! PTR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadBuffaloDisease Posted February 5, 2006 Share Posted February 5, 2006 A deal will get done and the Bills will benefit greatly from it. I'm not worried. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cripes Posted February 5, 2006 Share Posted February 5, 2006 Jones and Kraft have said in the past they want a change in the structure because new owners have to pay team purchase and expansion fee debt on their own (in addition to payroll expenses), but then only get to share equal revenues with the free-and-clear Maras, Rooneys and Wilsons. While it's not killing them, and there's plenty of cash to go around, I can see their point -- why shouldn't Ralph Wilson provide some debt load relief to Dan Snyder if Wilson waves the "We're all in this together" flag when it comes time to split the Fox TV check? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmac17 Posted February 5, 2006 Share Posted February 5, 2006 I understand both sides. You can't fault Bob Kraft for trying to make back his investment. He spent several HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS of his own money to build a stadium, and has to give back a decent chunk of his profits to owners in Pittsburgh or Buffalo who paid next to nothing to have their stadiums built. that said, they obviously need to figure out a way to make it so that everyone can survive and compete. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted February 5, 2006 Share Posted February 5, 2006 Jones and Kraft have said in the past they want a change in the structure because new owners have to pay team purchase and expansion fee debt on their own (in addition to payroll expenses), but then only get to share equal revenues with the free-and-clear Maras, Rooneys and Wilsons. While it's not killing them, and there's plenty of cash to go around, I can see their point -- why shouldn't Ralph Wilson provide some debt load relief to Dan Snyder if Wilson waves the "We're all in this together" flag when it comes time to split the Fox TV check? 594874[/snapback] All owners had to pay "team purchase fees" at some point. It's not the old owners fault that the new owners made their money late and came late to the party. And teams worth never goes down. So these owners, new or old, can make 100 million on their investment pretty much any time they want by just putting the team up for sale. And the reason, virtually the ONLY reason, that the league is as stable and popular and ever growing financially as it is is because the old owners in the big markets, like Wellington Mara, chose to take less personal money for the good of the whole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted February 5, 2006 Author Share Posted February 5, 2006 All owners had to pay "team purchase fees" at some point. It's not the old owners fault that the new owners made their money late and came late to the party. And teams worth never goes down. So these owners, new or old, can make 100 million on their investment pretty much any time they want by just putting the team up for sale. And the reason, virtually the ONLY reason, that the league is as stable and popular and ever growing financially as it is is because the old owners in the big markets, like Wellington Mara, chose to take less personal money for the good of the whole. 594885[/snapback] Bingo! It's like me buying a house in a hot neighborhood. I may have paid 10 times more than my neighbor who bought his house 20 years ago, but he was smart to buy earlier. PTR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmac17 Posted February 5, 2006 Share Posted February 5, 2006 So these owners, new or old, can make 100 million on their investment pretty much any time they want by just putting the team up for sale. easy for you to say - you didn't spend $300 million of your own money on a stadium for your team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fake-Fat Sunny Posted February 5, 2006 Share Posted February 5, 2006 PTR...I agree 100%. I think the Houston owner whose name escapes me is also part of the "new breed" of greedy owners. 594829[/snapback] Yeah, but this "new breed" is called being an American and living by the good ol American principle of having as free a market as possible and getting a good product through competition with everyone trying to get the best for himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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