1gap2gap Posted January 13, 2006 Share Posted January 13, 2006 Season Team Regular Season Post Season Record Finish Record Finish 2000 New Orleans Saints 10-6 1st -- NFC West 1-1 Lost Divisional Playoffs 2001 New Orleans Saints 7-9 T3rd -- NFC West -- 2002 New Orleans Saints 9-7 3rd -- NFC South -- 2003 New Orleans Saints 8-8 2nd -- NFC South -- 2004 New Orleans Saints 8-8 2nd -- NFC South -- 2005 New Orleans Saints 3-13 4th -- NFC South -- Career 45-51 1-1 Is this what you want ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted January 13, 2006 Share Posted January 13, 2006 Well, last year was pretty hard to go through. The years before that he is 42-38. For a headcoach that WANTS to be in Buffalo, its much better than what we were getting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beerme1 Posted January 13, 2006 Share Posted January 13, 2006 Well, no. But I wonder how we will be with him as Marv's DC? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catholic Guilt Posted January 13, 2006 Share Posted January 13, 2006 Season Team Regular Season Post Season Record Finish Record Finish 2000 New Orleans Saints 10-6 1st -- NFC West 1-1 Lost Divisional Playoffs 2001 New Orleans Saints 7-9 T3rd -- NFC West -- 2002 New Orleans Saints 9-7 3rd -- NFC South -- 2003 New Orleans Saints 8-8 2nd -- NFC South -- 2004 New Orleans Saints 8-8 2nd -- NFC South -- 2005 New Orleans Saints 3-13 4th -- NFC South -- Career 45-51 1-1 Is this what you want ??? 565783[/snapback] Your case is weak... WILLIAM STEPHEN Belichick Cleveland Browns Regular Season 36-44 (.450); Postseason 1-1 (.500) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloWings Posted January 13, 2006 Share Posted January 13, 2006 Season Team Regular Season Post Season Record Finish Record Finish 2000 New Orleans Saints 10-6 1st -- NFC West 1-1 Lost Divisional Playoffs 2001 New Orleans Saints 7-9 T3rd -- NFC West -- 2002 New Orleans Saints 9-7 3rd -- NFC South -- 2003 New Orleans Saints 8-8 2nd -- NFC South -- 2004 New Orleans Saints 8-8 2nd -- NFC South -- 2005 New Orleans Saints 3-13 4th -- NFC South -- Career 45-51 1-1 Is this what you want ??? 565783[/snapback] I *might* be willing to give him a pass for this year with the whole Katrina thing and losing Deuce midway through the season. However, he had talent and wasn't doing much better than mediocre and just missing the playoffs. Maybe Buffalo would be a welcome change of scenery for him, but I don't think it's worth the risk right now. He might benefit from a few years away from the head coaching spotlight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan Trapped in Pats Land Posted January 13, 2006 Share Posted January 13, 2006 Your case is weak... WILLIAM STEPHEN Belichick Cleveland Browns Regular Season 36-44 (.450); Postseason 1-1 (.500) 565792[/snapback] The difference being that Belichick went back to being a DC for several years, learned from his mistakes, and changed his coaching style. Haslett has been unemployed for 14 minutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted January 13, 2006 Share Posted January 13, 2006 Hell no to Haslett, Marv, Marty, Shell, JJ......could we get a competent replacement please? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1gap2gap Posted January 13, 2006 Author Share Posted January 13, 2006 Your case is weak... WILLIAM STEPHEN Belichick Cleveland Browns Regular Season 36-44 (.450); Postseason 1-1 (.500) 565792[/snapback] You got to be kidding me. That is so weak after the Browns were did Belichick go and what did he do. Hint N J Jets ring a bell as an assistant. Please ! This is a joke right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted January 13, 2006 Share Posted January 13, 2006 The difference being that Belichick went back to being a DC for several years, learned from his mistakes, and changed his coaching style. Haslett has been unemployed for 14 minutes. 565801[/snapback] So thats it? Thats how he became great, by going back to DC? The truth is, you need players that fit right in your system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan Trapped in Pats Land Posted January 13, 2006 Share Posted January 13, 2006 Hell no to Haslett, Marv, Marty, Shell, JJ......could we get a competent replacement please? 565802[/snapback] Art Shell is an interesting guy to me. pretty good record, with some teams that were woefully unbalanced on talent in his later years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazyDingo Posted January 13, 2006 Share Posted January 13, 2006 I wonder what the Mularkey and the Bills' record would've been if Buffalo had blown off the map? Probably worse that 3-13. ...and they did beat us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted January 13, 2006 Share Posted January 13, 2006 Season Team Regular Season Post Season Record Finish Record Finish 2000 New Orleans Saints 10-6 1st -- NFC West 1-1 Lost Divisional Playoffs 2001 New Orleans Saints 7-9 T3rd -- NFC West -- 2002 New Orleans Saints 9-7 3rd -- NFC South -- 2003 New Orleans Saints 8-8 2nd -- NFC South -- 2004 New Orleans Saints 8-8 2nd -- NFC South -- 2005 New Orleans Saints 3-13 4th -- NFC South -- Career 45-51 1-1 Is this what you want ??? 565783[/snapback] you mean 42-38? because you can't seriously mean to include the 2005 season in his overall record. i'm surprised he managed to win one game last year. i'm not saying he's the be all and end all -- i'm only calling out a dubious usage of statistics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turftoe Posted January 13, 2006 Share Posted January 13, 2006 Your case is weak... WILLIAM STEPHEN Belichick Cleveland Browns Regular Season 36-44 (.450); Postseason 1-1 (.500) 565792[/snapback] WB was know as a defensive master. He won Superbowls as a DC. Haslett, my friend, is no Belichick! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catholic Guilt Posted January 13, 2006 Share Posted January 13, 2006 you mean 42-38? because you can't seriously mean to include the 2005 season in his overall record. i'm surprised he managed to win one game last year. i'm not saying he's the be all and end all -- i'm only calling out a dubious usage of statistics. 565809[/snapback] Agreed. But this logic comes from a poster who would like to see Green Bay D coach, Jim Bates take over the red,white and blue. Consider the source... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StuckinRedskinland Posted January 13, 2006 Share Posted January 13, 2006 It would be nice to have a Coach who understands what the Owner wants and what the Fans expect. Blue collar coach for a Blue Collar town which he played for and still loves. Espn talks about loyalty not such a big issue..... If you ran a business who would you rather hire the person who wants to be in charge of everything and claims to know everything or the person who will tell it like it is and not blow smoke up your behind? Give him a chance with an OWNER on the same page as him and lets see what happens. Please don't sell Art Shell or anyone else for that matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catholic Guilt Posted January 13, 2006 Share Posted January 13, 2006 It would be nice to have a Coach who understands what the Owner wants and what the Fans expect. Blue collar coach for a Blue Collar town which he played for and still loves. Espn talks about loyalty not such a big issue..... If you ran a business who would you rather hire the person who wants to be in charge of everything and claims to know everything or the person who will tell it like it is and not blow smoke up your behind? Give him a chance with an OWNER on the same page as him and lets see what happens. Please don't sell Art Shell or anyone else for that matter. 565831[/snapback] DING DING DING - we have a winner!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted January 13, 2006 Share Posted January 13, 2006 It would be nice to have a Coach who understands what the Owner wants and what the Fans expect. Blue collar coach for a Blue Collar town which he played for and still loves. Espn talks about loyalty not such a big issue..... If you ran a business who would you rather hire the person who wants to be in charge of everything and claims to know everything or the person who will tell it like it is and not blow smoke up your behind? Give him a chance with an OWNER on the same page as him and lets see what happens. Please don't sell Art Shell or anyone else for that matter. 565831[/snapback] Couldn't get more blue collar than Hank Bullough... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROSCOE P. COE TRAIN Posted January 13, 2006 Share Posted January 13, 2006 he was a fantastic coordinator however. his blitze backages were cutting edge. thos 4 LBs with Pitt were the best in the league under him. new orleans is the arm pit of the nation, joe gibbs could not turn that program around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tortured Soul Posted January 13, 2006 Share Posted January 13, 2006 you mean 42-38? because you can't seriously mean to include the 2005 season in his overall record. i'm surprised he managed to win one game last year. i'm not saying he's the be all and end all -- i'm only calling out a dubious usage of statistics. 565809[/snapback] He didn't just beat us. He blew us out. The talent on the Saints is very questionable. Odds are Aaron Brooks shouldn't be a starting QB anywhere in this league. Beyond that, how many players would you trade straight up for their oppostie on the Bills? Bentley, Horn...? Belichik shouldn't be used as a model though becuase he's an exception to every rule ever. And we can do better than haslett. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sen. John Blutarsky Posted January 13, 2006 Share Posted January 13, 2006 I know this has already been said before... ...one Marv Levy had a career NFL record of 31-34 in his first coaching stint. He went 4-12, 7-9, then 9-7, in 1982 the NFL went on strike, the Chiefs finished 3-6 and Marv was let go. he never made the playoffs and never finished higher than 3rd in his division. Up until this season Haslett was only the 2nd coach in team history to have a winning record. Jim Mora was the other, but I don't think we'd have taken him either, he was 103-74 in NO but he never won a playoff game. He ended up 0-6 in the playoffs including the 2 he lost in Indy. The truth is that NOBODY has won in New Orleans and the fact he won as much as he did was an accomplishment unto itself. If you don't want Haslett OK, but don't use his record alone as the deciding factor. I'd use the fact that his teams had an unsettling habit of quitting on him instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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