What would you do if you were me?

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

My wife is a teacher as some of you know. This summer she is teaching summer school.

 

Today, something happened at her school. An 8 year old little girl was out in the play yard and a THREE TIME OFFENDER drove by and tried to pick the girl up. The girl ran into the school and got my wife and two others to come outside. My wife and her coworkers saw the guy circle back, and took down his license number. The cops got him and told her that this would be his third offense, and that he'll go away for a long time, but not until they had my wife identify the f*cking animal. Not only that they're going to want her in court to positively ID the individual. I am SO worried that this guy will get out again and that he'll stalk us.

 

I am SERIOUSLY considering arming myself and keeping an eye on the judicial record to see if this f*cking piece of shiat ever gets out again. Worst thing is, he's registered in MY ZIP code.

 

I need your advice on suitable firearms.

 

Thanks, fellas and pray for us.

[TheMadCap]

Wow. I am not sure if I am qualified to give advice in this matter.

 

I will answer as if it were me this happened to. I would make sure the dirtbag goes away to federal P.M.I.T.A. prison for as long as possible. I would definitely testify and do whatever I need to do.

 

About the other thing. I am just not sure. I don't think you should live life paranoid about some nutjob. Chances are, he's just what he is, a molester. I doubt his fortitude to commit a more serious crime in harming you or your family.

 

Good luck!

[Crap Throwing Monkey]

My wife is a teacher as some of you know. This summer she is teaching summer school.

 

Today, something happened at her school. An 8 year old little girl was out in the play yard and a THREE TIME OFFENDER drove by and tried to pick the girl up. The girl ran into the school and got my wife and two others to come outside. My wife and her coworkers saw the guy circle back, and took down his license number. The cops got him and told her that this would be his third offense, and that he'll go away for a long time, but not until they had my wife identify the f*cking animal. Not only that they're going to want her in court to positively ID the individual. I am SO worried that this guy will get out again and that he'll stalk us.

 

I am SERIOUSLY considering arming myself and keeping an eye on the judicial record to see if this f*cking piece of shiat ever gets out again. Worst thing is, he's registered in MY ZIP code.

 

I need your advice on suitable firearms.

 

Thanks, fellas and pray for us.

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Unless your wife is an 8-year old girl, I doubt she has much to worry about. She's probably out of this guy's age range. I forget, though, whether or not you have any kids at home.

 

Personally, were I in your situation...I wouldn't worry too much about it. Certainly not to the degree that I'd go out and buy a gun. But then, I'm comfortable with my ability to protect my family without arming myself. If firepower's what makes you feel safe from child rapists, go right ahead...

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

Wow. I am not sure if I am qualified to give advice in this matter.

 

I will answer as if it were me this happened to. I would make sure the dirtbag goes away to federal P.M.I.T.A. prison for as long as possible. I would definitely testify and do whatever I need to do.

 

About the other thing. I am just not sure. I don't think you should live life paranoid about some nutjob. Chances are, he's just what he is, a molester. I doubt his fortitude to commit a more serious crime in harming you or your family.

 

Good luck!

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Note: he was convicted of rape.

 

I'm tempted to plaster the whole town with flyers that have his face on it, as well as each and every other one of the miserable f*cks that come up in a search of my ZIP code.

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

Unless your wife is an 8-year old girl, I doubt she has much to worry about.  She's probably out of this guy's age range.  I forget, though, whether or not you have any kids at home. 

 

Personally, were I in your situation...I wouldn't worry too much about it.  Certainly not to the degree that I'd go out and buy a gun.  But then, I'm comfortable with my ability to protect my family without arming myself.  If firepower's what makes you feel safe from child rapists, go right ahead...

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I have a two-year old daughter.

 

 

To think that the authorities would release people like this back in to the community repeatedly makes me want to retch. What a ridiculous system of "justice" we have in this country.

[Crap Throwing Monkey]

Note: he was convicted of rape.

 

I'm tempted to plaster the whole town with flyers that have his face on it, as well as each and every other one of the miserable f*cks that come up in a search of my ZIP code.

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Unless you're with your wife 24/7, you can't protect her completely. Sounds like it's time for her to take a self-defense class. She does know that gouging out an eye is far more effective than a knee to the groin, right?

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

Unless you're with your wife 24/7, you can't protect her completely.  Sounds like it's time for her to take a self-defense class.  She does know that gouging out an eye is far more effective than a knee to the groin, right?

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I don't know what she knows, I've never had to worry about this kind of shiat before.

 

How ridiculous is this situation though? These kind of incurable perverts shouldn't be released ONCE, let alone TWICE.

[Crap Throwing Monkey]

I have a two-year old daughter.

 

 

To think that the authorities would release people like this back in to the community repeatedly makes me want to retch. What a ridiculous system of "justice" we have in this country.

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If you can't believe it, then you don't understand how the system works. The authorities do what the laws require. Don't like it...B word to the legislators and get the law changed.

[OnTheRocks]

you got an awful lot of information for something that just happened this morning.

 

was this pig already a 3-time offender? or will this ultimately be his third offense?

i don't know the laws but if this would be his third offence won't he go away for something like 25 years?

 

personally I don't know why this guy is still alive after his first offense.

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

If you can't believe it, then you don't understand how the system works.  The authorities do what the laws require.  Don't like it...B word to the legislators and get the law changed.

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They'd never listen to MY idea.

 

Generally, sex offenders can't be rehabilitated. What's the other options? Castration? Death?

 

i'm quite certain they'll never go for that idea. the pantywaists would throw too much of a fit.

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

you got an awful lot of information for something that just happened this morning.

 

was this pig already a 3-time offender? or will this ultimately be his third offense?

i don't know the laws but if this would be his third offence won't he go away for something like 25 years?

 

personally I don't know why this guy is still alive after his first offense.

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The cop that arrested this human sack of shiat told my wife that this would be his third offense. I hope, and this is my most SINCERE hope, that they put this lousy worthless excuse for a human being in a cell with a 450 pound, 7 foot tall convict that was horribly molested as a child.

[Crap Throwing Monkey]

They'd never listen to MY idea.

 

Generally, sex offenders can't be rehabilitated. What's the other options? Castration? Death?

 

i'm quite certain they'll never go for that idea. the pantywaists would throw too much of a fit.

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Generally, "sex offenders" covers a WIDE variety of crimes these days. Technically, the 19-year old guy with the 16-year old girlfriend is a sex offender...even if he's been dating her since he was 17. Travis Henry is a sex offender because he's an idiot who didn't ask for ID from a girl he picked up at a gas station (??? You're a football player, call an escort service you moron). A guy in Illinois is now a sex offender for something the sentencing judge admits was a completely non-sexual crime. Generally, people like that can be "rehabilitated" (or don't need any to begin with - the 19-year old will be "rehabilitated" when his girlfriend hits 18, Travis Henry will be "rehabilitated" when he learns not to be an idiot. The guy in Illinios will be "rehabilitated" when they fix their stupid laws.) So generally, saying 'sex offenders" cant be "rehabilitated" is an over-generalization.

 

Now, if you're talking about serial sex offenders...then you're most likely right. But do you really want to advocate laws that lock up people for life for the crime of total stupidity or living in Illinois, just so you get the serial offenders?

[Cripes]

As somebody who lives next door to a sex offender (a rapist convicted of a 1992 sexual assault of a 30-year-old woman), I can sympathize with your plight, Joe. But I truly believe your wife has nothing to fear if she steps forward, especially if it will put this trash behind bars for 25 years. And she will be saving some little girl from being a victim.

 

I'm not familiar with where you live, but if it's NY, do they have programs that divert convicted child molestors into mental hospitals following their state prison terms (I know Kansas does)? That could effectively keep him away forever.

[sweet baboo]

i hope you own a shot gun

pump action might be better since the sound of cocking the gun lets people know you mean business

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

As somebody who lives next door to a sex offender (a rapist convicted of a 1992 sexual assault of a 30-year-old woman), I can sympathize with your plight, Joe. But I truly believe your wife has nothing to fear if she steps forward, especially if it will put this trash behind bars for 25 years. And she will be saving some little girl from being a victim.

 

I'm not familiar with where you live, but if it's NY, do they have programs that divert convicted child molestors into mental hospitals following their state prison terms (I know Kansas does)? That could effectively keep him away forever.

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I'm not sure about that. But I CAN say that PA has a three strikes law, so if this indeed this farg's third strike he'll die in prison.

[OnTheRocks]

Generally, "sex offenders" covers a WIDE variety of crimes these days.  Technically, the 19-year old guy with the 16-year old girlfriend is a sex offender...even if he's been dating her since he was 17.  Travis Henry is a sex offender because he's an idiot who didn't ask for ID from a girl he picked up at a gas station (??? You're a football player, call an escort service you moron).  A guy in Illinois is now a sex offender for something the sentencing judge admits was a completely non-sexual crime.  Generally, people like that can be "rehabilitated" (or don't need any to begin with - the 19-year old will be "rehabilitated" when his girlfriend hits 18, Travis Henry will be "rehabilitated" when he learns not to be an idiot.  The guy in Illinios will be "rehabilitated" when they fix their stupid laws.)  So generally, saying 'sex offenders" cant be "rehabilitated" is an over-generalization.

 

Now, if you're talking about serial sex offenders...then you're most likely right.  But do you really want to advocate laws that lock up people for life for the crime of total stupidity or living in Illinois, just so you get the serial offenders?

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An 8 year old little girl was out in the play yard and a THREE TIME OFFENDER drove by and tried to pick the girl up.

 

Sounds like a serial sex offender to me.

[rockpile]

Can't the coworkers identify him too?

 

I cannot give you advice, Joe, since I do not walk in your shoes. Somehow this guy should not be allowed to see sunlight for a long time.

 

Can anyone in the "justice" system provide more info on potential danger there is to her as a witness? We know there is a danger to the community if he goes free.

 

Good luck, my friend.

 

My wife is a teacher as some of you know. This summer she is teaching summer school.

 

Today, something happened at her school. An 8 year old little girl was out in the play yard and a THREE TIME OFFENDER drove by and tried to pick the girl up. The girl ran into the school and got my wife and two others to come outside. My wife and her coworkers saw the guy circle back, and took down his license number. The cops got him and told her that this would be his third offense, and that he'll go away for a long time, but not until they had my wife identify the f*cking animal. Not only that they're going to want her in court to positively ID the individual. I am SO worried that this guy will get out again and that he'll stalk us.

 

I am SERIOUSLY considering arming myself and keeping an eye on the judicial record to see if this f*cking piece of shiat ever gets out again. Worst thing is, he's registered in MY ZIP code.

 

I need your advice on suitable firearms.

 

Thanks, fellas and pray for us.

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[Crap Throwing Monkey]

Sounds like a serial sex offender to me.   

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Likely so...

 

...of course, he can't be serial until he commits more than one crime. Which he can't do until he's released for the first one, which JSP's dead-set against it seems. Ergo, the seriality of the crime is ultimately irrelevent in his judgement...

[Bill from NYC]

Joe, a few things:

 

1) How did you feel about gun ownership before this incident? If there were misgivings, perhaps you need to slow down and think clearly. (Btw, I obviously do not have problems with gun ownership for law abiding citizens.)

 

2) You shot handguns in the military, right? What kinds of guns did you like there. For novices, I reccomend .38 revolvers. They are very easy to safeguard, and good to learn with.

 

3) Your wife is a hero. Let me add that she would be feeling a lot worse if something happened to the kid. Seeing the results of children sexually assaulted is something that can be compartmentalized, but it never goes away. If one is not careful, they can be forever chased by the images. Trust me. Please tell her this.

 

4) I don't know exactly what happened. Did he touch the child? Did he try to force her in the vehicle, or was it verbal? This matters in terms of sentencing.

 

5) In all liklihood, the guy will cop. The penalties are servere, which makes copping beneficial to him. I had a guy cop to 8 years on a first offense. I will not discuss anything other than that in terms of this individual case, except that a full 1/3 comes off for good behavior. My point is; a trial is unlikely.

 

If you have any more questions wrt this, send me a PM and you can call me.

I know this is tough and you love your family, but try to relax, OK?

 

PS: That little girl is also a hero.

[CoachChuckDickerson]

3) Your wife is a hero. Let me add that she would be feeling a lot worse if something happened to the kid. Seeing the results of children sexually assaulted is something that can be compartmentalized, but it never goes away. If one is not careful, they can be forever chased by the images. Trust me. Please tell her this.

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Amen.

[Kelly the Dog]

Joe, a few things:

 

1) How did you feel about gun ownership before this incident? If there were misgivings, perhaps you need to slow down and think clearly. (Btw, I obviously do not have problems with gun ownership for law abiding citizens.)

 

2) You shot handguns in the military, right? What kinds of guns did you like there. For novices, I reccomend .38 revolvers. They are very easy to safeguard, and good to learn with.

 

3) Your wife is a hero. Let me add that she would be feeling a lot worse if something happened to the kid. Seeing the results of children sexually assaulted is something that can be compartmentalized, but it never goes away. If one is not careful, they can be forever chased by the images. Trust me. Please tell her this.

 

4) I don't know exactly what happened. Did he touch the child? Did he try to force her in the vehicle, or was it verbal? This matters in terms of sentencing.

 

5) In all liklihood, the guy will cop. The penalties are servere, which makes copping beneficial to him. I had a guy cop to 8 years on a first offense. I will not discuss anything other than that in terms of this individual case, except that a full 1/3 comes off for good behavior. My point is; a trial is unlikely.

 

If you have any more questions wrt this, send me a PM and you can call me.

I know this is tough and you love your family, but try to relax, OK?

 

PS: That little girl is also a hero.

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Nice response, post and sentiment.

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

5) In all liklihood, the guy will cop. The penalties are servere, which makes copping beneficial to him. I had a guy cop to 8 years on a first offense. I will not discuss anything other than that in terms of this individual case, except that a full 1/3 comes off for good behavior. My point is; a trial is unlikely.

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Apparently this was his third offense. Can you cop to a third offense?

[Bill from NYC]

Apparently this was his third offense. Can you cop to a third offense?

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Yes.

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

Yes.

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Even with a three strikes law?

[Bill from NYC]

Even with a three strikes law?

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Bro, yes.

[blzrul]

You and your wife should do what you'd want someone else to do, that is testify against the f-ing scumbag and make sure the media and entire world knows what he did, and his situation, so the public pressure to ensure his lockup for life is immense.

 

As to the danger - well, that guy in Idaho who killed the family to snatch a girl shows that it's possible. But I'd hold off on the gun unless the guy's released. Make sure that the DA, PD and everyone else knows all your contact numbers in the unlikely event he makes bail.

 

I testified against a serial arsonist once. As most people know, most serial killers start out with crimes like arson, and this guy was a nutbag. Plus he was from a wealthy and influential family. He was a very big man and quite intimidating. When I went to court the TV cameras were all there...and he sat behind that defense table and glared at me. Scary? Yup. Add to that the fact that it turned out he'd lived in a complex right across the street from my family. But it never occurred to me not to testify, because his next fire may have killed someone. No-one ever said doing the right thing is easy.

 

You tell your wife she is a hero and a lot of kids owe her a big thanks!

[Bill from NYC]

You and your wife should do what you'd want someone else to do, that is testify against the f-ing scumbag and make sure the media and entire world knows what he did, and his situation, so the public pressure to ensure his lockup for life is immense.

 

As to the danger - well, that guy in Idaho who killed the family to snatch a girl shows that it's possible.  But I'd hold off on the gun unless the guy's released.  Make sure that the DA, PD and everyone else knows all your contact numbers in the unlikely event he makes bail.

 

I testified against a serial arsonist once.  As most people know, most serial killers start out with crimes like arson, and this guy was a nutbag.  Plus he was from a wealthy and influential family.  He was a very big man and quite intimidating.  When I went to court the TV cameras were all there...and he sat behind that defense table and glared at me.  Scary? Yup.  Add to that the fact that it turned out he'd lived in a complex right across the street from my family.  But it never occurred to me not to testify, because his next fire may have killed someone.  No-one ever said doing the right thing is easy.

 

You tell your wife she is a hero and a lot of kids owe her a big thanks!

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Great post Deb!!!!

I am still thinking that the guy will cop.

[cåblelady]

Damn, Joe.

 

[UConn James]

3) Your wife is a hero. Let me add that she would be feeling a lot worse if something happened to the kid. Seeing the results of children sexually assaulted is something that can be compartmentalized, but it never goes away. If one is not careful, they can be forever chased by the images. Trust me. Please tell her this.

 

5) In all liklihood, the guy will cop. The penalties are servere, which makes copping beneficial to him. I had a guy cop to 8 years on a first offense. I will not discuss anything other than that in terms of this individual case, except that a full 1/3 comes off for good behavior. My point is; a trial is unlikely.

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Joe, No. 3 is absolutely true and let it be your motivation. I'm close friends with a woman who was raped at 10, twenty years ago, by her sister's drug dealer. It never goes away is right. If you can prevent this POS from doing the same thing for a long stretch of time, you do it. There is no such thing as rehabilitation for sexual predators.

 

Push the prosecutor who is handling the case. Tell him/her that you want this to go to trial; no plea deal unless it's too good to pass up. If they don't want to go to trial, write two letters a week to the D.A. expounding upon, "If you let this dirtbag back on the streets in five years, in ten years, he will rape again. I know it. You know it. And when it does happen, the responsibility will be on your shoulders. And I will do everything in my power to see that you are fired and have it proclaimed from the rooftops that you let it happen. I will make dragging your name through the mud my mission in life."

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

UPDATE: Scumbag only has a $30,000 bail.

 

I HATE our justice system. He'll only have to post 10% percent of that bail and he's RIGHT BACK ON THE STREET.

 

Now I feel my wife is DEFINITELY in danger. He knows where she works. This country sucks.

[Bill from NYC]

UPDATE: Scumbag only has a $30,000 bail.

 

I HATE our justice system. He'll only have to post 10% percent of that bail and he's RIGHT BACK ON THE STREET.

 

Now I feel my wife is DEFINITELY in danger. He knows where she works. This country sucks.

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First of all, did she hear him make any statements? I am guessing that all she can do is place him on the scene from what you say. Am I right?

Can anybody else do this other than the victim?

Also, it is likely that this guy owes time.

I don't downplay your fears, but it may not be as bad as you think.

[philburger1]

My wife is a teacher as some of you know. This summer she is teaching summer school.

 

Today, something happened at her school. An 8 year old little girl was out in the play yard and a THREE TIME OFFENDER drove by and tried to pick the girl up. The girl ran into the school and got my wife and two others to come outside. My wife and her coworkers saw the guy circle back, and took down his license number. The cops got him and told her that this would be his third offense, and that he'll go away for a long time, but not until they had my wife identify the f*cking animal. Not only that they're going to want her in court to positively ID the individual. I am SO worried that this guy will get out again and that he'll stalk us.

 

I am SERIOUSLY considering arming myself and keeping an eye on the judicial record to see if this f*cking piece of shiat ever gets out again. Worst thing is, he's registered in MY ZIP code.

 

I need your advice on suitable firearms.

 

Thanks, fellas and pray for us.

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Try piano wire wrapped around his neck. If he gets a hand up to try and block it, you can saw thru it. Also very quiet.

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

First of all, did she hear him make any statements? I am guessing that all she can do is place him on the scene from what you say. Am I right?

Can anybody else do this other than the victim?

Also, it is likely that this guy owes time.

I don't downplay your fears, but it may not be as bad as you think.

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No, two of her co-workers were out there as well when he came by.

 

Add in the kid, I'd say that's a fairly reliable set of witnesses.

[VABills]

Joe, the only advice I can give is this. If she doesn't stand up and be a witness, how is she and you going to feel if he walks and then is found later with a raped and murdered little girl. All because you didn't want to put him away earlier. Just remember that maybe harder to live with then actually feeling a little danger until he goes to trial.

[Rich in Ohio]

I would grow up ....and finally become a 12 pack.

 

just kidding...couldn't resist.

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

Joe, the only advice I can give is this.  If she doesn't stand up and be a witness, how is she and you going to feel if he walks and then is found later with a raped and murdered little girl.  All because you didn't want to put him away earlier.  Just remember that maybe harder to live with then actually feeling a little danger until he goes to trial.

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Oh, I'd never stop her from testifying.

 

I just hate the way the whole bail process works.

[Gavin in Va Beach]

Get a gun.

 

A big one.

[aussiew]

With only $30,000 bail it sounds like the police officer may have been wrong about the 3rd offence.

[Alaska Darin]

With only $30,000 bail it sounds like the police officer may have been wrong about the 3rd offence.

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Or the judge could be a moron, which is entirely possible given he's a lawyer AND a politician. Putting a $23 robe on either one of those two "professionals" doesn't give them more wisdom.

 

If I were a judge and had the evidence that Joe gave me with at least 3 witnesses plus a child, it wouldn't matter if it was a FIRST offense. Bail would be SIGNIFICANT and likely unreachable for most everyone. Guidelines, schmidelines.

[blzrul]

Oh, I'd never stop her from testifying.

 

I just hate the way the whole bail process works.

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Perhaps since he's a repeat offender they'll confine him to home with a monitor.

 

Don't misunderestimate the ability of the media to freak everyone out. If the news hasn't been on TV and in the paper....call them yourself. The guy won't be able to go anywhere without being recognized.