"IR is a possibility" for both Spencer Brown and Terrel Bernard

[TheyCallMeAndy]

1 minute ago, ChronicAndKnuckles said:

This team is soft as butter. The strength & conditioning team/trainers/whoever have done a p*ss poor job year in & year out. My job would can me right away if i routinely displayed these results. IDC that the defense is smaller. The 2002 Tampa D had a lot of undersized players too and never had near the injury problems. Manning’s Colts defenses were on the smaller side too especially on the D-line and i can’t recall these kinds of issues either.

 

Screw character… the focal point in the draft should be iron men who aren’t calling in sick constantly. If you aren’t on the field then you’re worth nothing to the team. Actually, you’re robbing another player of a contract that could’ve been given to them. 

Can't eyeroll big enough. 

[Puckman5]

7 minutes ago, TheyCallMeAndy said:

Can't eyeroll big enough. 

I'm not saying I agree with everything he's saying, but at some point you have question the repeated bad luck on the injury front.   Yes it's going to happen on some level, but it should even out over time relative to other teams.  I'm sure people wouldn't question it as much if our defense was generally more productive.  When you see the same issues year after year, there's generally more to it.  

[TheyCallMeAndy]

50 minutes ago, Puckman5 said:

I'm not saying I agree with everything he's saying, but at some point you have question the repeated bad luck on the injury front.   Yes it's going to happen on some level, but it should even out over time relative to other teams.  I'm sure people wouldn't question it as much if our defense was generally more productive.  When you see the same issues year after year, there's generally more to it.  

Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't the team hire a new head trainer last offseason? 
 

I'd love to know what stretches or exercises would avoid the injuries the team has had. I'm sure a few can be cherry picked; Thompson's hammy, maybe a few of the groins, but not much you can do for Jackson, Oliver, Bernard, ect. 

[ScotSHO]

I don't think it is the trainer or methods of recovery - it really speaks back to the coach/GM bias to target undersized defenders to meet their bias towards stopping the pass.

 

I think in 2-3 years we'll be complaining about the plodding slow defense we'll end up with as the pendulum swings the other direction.  But we'll have less injuries!

[MikePJ76]

I fully expect to hear Hairston had a lobotomy over the weekend and benford has a mystery injury today.

 

 

[SCBills]

1 minute ago, TheyCallMeAndy said:

Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't the team hire a new head trainer last offseason? 
 

I'd love to know what stretches or exercises would avoid the injuries the team has had. I'm sure a few can be cherry picked; Thompson's hammy, maybe a few of the groins, but not much you can do for Jackson, Oliver, Bernard, ect. 

Ed Oliver is an undersized DT.  If he was bigger, is he arm tackling in that situation?  It’s bad luck, yes, but sometimes you make your own luck.   I don’t see too many other teams constantly dealing with injuries to their best DT.  
 

Michael Hoecht, we signed knowing he was on a PED suspension.  Bad luck, maybe.. also PED’s are known to lead to more tendon injuries like popping an Achilles. 
 

Landon Jackson, bad luck again .. he also has an extensive injury history.  No reason to think that will change.  
 

Terrell Bernard, undersized, hurt all year.. forced to sit probably a blessing in disguise.  
 

Joey Bosa, constant soft tissue injury history. 
 

Shaq Thompson, older player coming off injury

 

Taylor Rapp, injury history and aging player 

 

TJ Sanders missing time is something out of our control but everyone else hurt on this defense, nobody is surprised. 

 

[todd]

On 11/21/2025 at 7:17 PM, Big Turk said:

 

You are not a pro athlete...the treatment and surgical recommendations are far different between normal people and athletes.

 

Athletes routinely have surgery for things that normal people would just let heal on their own to get them back faster and/or strengthen the injured area to help prevent reoccurrence.

Sure, however it’s a torn labrum and it sucks. Don’t care who you are.

[JP51]

On 11/21/2025 at 6:43 PM, SoonerBillsFan said:

Bernard is terrible so no biggie.  Brown on the other hand...

Hate to see anyone hurt... and maybe its me but the D seems to be more effective without Bernard. 

[JerseyBills]

13 hours ago, BillsFanForever19 said:

 

Bernard is playing at a replaceable level. Especially being dinged up before this. Him being out isn't a huge loss.

 

However, the drop off between Spencer Brown and RVD is MASSIVE. Brown is one of the best Right Tackle's in the entire NFL, if not THE best. 

True,  he is great,  I guess after an off night on Thursday, I forgot that. Why can't Anderson fill in? is he strictly on the left side?

[Dr.Sack]

Bernard is so banged up it’s a net gain for us if he is not on the field.

 

Brown is a huge loss, hoping his injury recovery timeline is like Will Campbell’s 2-3 weeks. Van Demark is going to need Hawes to help.  

[wppete]

Bernard is not a big loss at all. In fact Shaq Thompson is an upgrade. But Spencer Brown would be a huge loss right now.