FireChans Posted 15 hours ago Posted 15 hours ago 7 minutes ago, Avisan said: It wasn't quite a carry job, but it was close. Mills was 16/30 for 153 yards. That's not a very good day and well below his previous two performances. A team that averaged 22 points per game had 20 at half with their back up QB. 2 1 Quote
BADOLBILZ Posted 15 hours ago Posted 15 hours ago 3 minutes ago, FireChans said: A team that averaged 22 points per game had 20 at half with their back up QB. That's a real cherry pick though. They had averaged 25 at home.......got held to 23. The big tactical defensive error for the Bills was not just playing press man and tackling the receivers at the snap with 9 seconds left in the half. Inexcusable.........especially given that they had been given time to think about it after that dumba$$ Ersery cost the Texans a 10 second run off and gave the Bills time to strategize. That and the missed extra point was the margin of victory needed.......5 points. Otherwise the Texans didn't get much done offensively. 1 1 Quote
FireChans Posted 14 hours ago Posted 14 hours ago 5 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said: That's a real cherry pick though. They had averaged 25 at home.......got held to 23. The big tactical defensive error for the Bills was not just playing press man and tackling the receivers at the snap with 9 seconds left in the half. Inexcusable.........especially given that they had been given time to think about it after that dumba$$ Ersery cost the Texans a 10 second run off and gave the Bills time to strategize. That and the missed extra point was the margin of victory needed.......5 points. Otherwise the Texans didn't get much done offensively. Fine. The Texans having 20 points at half was their highest point total at half at home all season. They hadn’t scored more than 12 at half at home all year. Allowing those all too familiar “inexcusable” errors to let their GREAT defense tee off on Josh for the entire second half is the entire point. If you told me the worst possible way that game could go, that would be it. That’s NOT complementary football. 1 Quote
GoBills808 Posted 14 hours ago Posted 14 hours ago 3 minutes ago, FireChans said: Fine. The Texans having 20 points at half was their highest point total at half at home all season. They hadn’t scored more than 12 at half at home all year. Allowing those all too familiar “inexcusable” errors to let their GREAT defense tee off on Josh for the entire second half is the entire point. If you told me the worst possible way that game could go, that would be it. That’s NOT complementary football. It was also their backup QB It's not some impossible ask to hold a backup QB down 4 Quote
Avisan Posted 14 hours ago Posted 14 hours ago 6 minutes ago, GoBills808 said: It was also their backup QB It's not some impossible ask to hold a backup QB down 16/30 for 153, y'all gotta stop acting like he lit up the defense 2 Quote
FireChans Posted 14 hours ago Posted 14 hours ago 38 minutes ago, FireChans said: A team that averaged 22 points per game had 20 at half with their back up QB. 7 minutes ago, Avisan said: 16/30 for 153, y'all gotta stop acting like he lit up the defense 14 minutes ago, GoBills808 said: It was also their backup QB It's not some impossible ask to hold a backup QB down It actually is. Josh Allen needs to single-handedly boat-race the #1 defense in football, while his overpaid defense and mastermind HC are just passengers on the bus. 1 Quote
Avisan Posted 14 hours ago Posted 14 hours ago Just now, FireChans said: The Bills have an average defense despite being a M.A.S.H unit. The Defense held them 80 yards below their per-game average. For reference, Mills had 292 and 274 the prior two weeks. 1 Quote
GoBills808 Posted 14 hours ago Posted 14 hours ago 15 minutes ago, Avisan said: 16/30 for 153, y'all gotta stop acting like he lit up the defense What if he went 24/34 for 253 1 Quote
\GoBillsInDallas/ Posted 13 hours ago Posted 13 hours ago On 11/21/2025 at 10:03 AM, Walking Tall said: complete slug 3 Quote
BADOLBILZ Posted 11 hours ago Posted 11 hours ago 3 hours ago, FireChans said: It actually is. Josh Allen needs to single-handedly boat-race the #1 defense in football, while his overpaid defense and mastermind HC are just passengers on the bus. Boat race? The offense only scored 12 points!😂 And they turned the ball over twice in their own territory, effectively gifting the Houston offense 6 points. And yet Allen still had the ball with a chance to win the game at the end. Just like the last 2 KC playoff losses. 1 1 Quote
Sojourner Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago 8 hours ago, BADOLBILZ said: You can't talk money and gloss over how little they've gotten from Christian Benford. He'd be near worthless in free agency this offseason if he continues to have a 110 passer rating against and 0 passes defensed. So his extension is looking like a windfall compared to the one year prove-it deal he'd be looking at at this point. Ed Oliver will only play like 8% of the teams defensive snaps coming off a season when he was one of the very worst run defending DT's in the NFL. Two years into the extension, he's had one bad year and one lost year. Rousseau would easily get the same deal or more than he got from the Bills in free agency this offseason. That's just the nature of DL value. You disagree? If not then you guys are just b!tching at the wall for the sake of it. We can be disappointed that Rousseau hasn't risen up to carry the defense like Allen does with the offense but aside from him nobody else on the Bills does that either. The team lacks elite talent at premium positions but Rousseau is not paid like an elite player. Not even close. Theyre disappointing on a lot of fronts in the defense but you can have a stud corner and plays can still be made. One dominant guy on the line can help the rest of his positional group out as well as the back end… I’d take a quality edge player or DT and average to mediocre DB’s than I would a stud CB if Benford fit that bill. That’s not to say they wouldn’t make a difference but rather, again, a game wrecker up front makes a bigger difference. Also to boot, you’re absolutely right that Benford is inexcusable as much as Rousseau in terms of $ to product. I like Ed and think he’s a vital missing piece to our problems, the guy can’t be paid that much and be missing to injury or a disappearing act. Big problems all around for big $. Hopefully they can get back to what earned them those contracts. Quote
FireChans Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago 4 hours ago, BADOLBILZ said: Boat race? The offense only scored 12 points!😂 And they turned the ball over twice in their own territory, effectively gifting the Houston offense 6 points. And yet Allen still had the ball with a chance to win the game at the end. Just like the last 2 KC playoff losses. Wouldn’t it be nice to maybe have our defense force a TO or 2 in Houston’s territory? Just a bridge too far to ask the defense to meaningfully impact the game on a day the offense is struggling against the best defense in football. 2 Quote
Wayne Cubed Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago (edited) 12 minutes ago, FireChans said: Wouldn’t it be nice to maybe have our defense force a TO or 2 in Houston’s territory? Just a bridge too far to ask the defense to meaningfully impact the game on a day the offense is struggling against the best defense in football. And as previously pointed out, this is against their backup QB. And a bang average OL. Nah, Josh got to do it all. Edited 6 hours ago by Wayne Cubed 2 Quote
BeastMaster Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago It's crazy that people are completely ignoring that the Texans basically decided to stop throwing the ball in the second half because they had the lead and their defense was dominating You're fooling yourself if you think the Bills did anything in the second half to stifle Houston. 1 Quote
Avisan Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 3 hours ago, BeastMaster said: It's crazy that people are completely ignoring that the Texans basically decided to stop throwing the ball in the second half because they had the lead and their defense was dominating You're fooling yourself if you think the Bills did anything in the second half to stifle Houston. They had 35 net yards in the 2nd half and never led by more than a score. There is zero percent chance they were no longer trying to move the ball. 12 hours ago, GoBills808 said: What if he went 24/34 for 253 I would consider that a rock-solid outing were it not for the two interceptions, especially considering the amount of pressure being generated. Quote
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 14 hours ago, BADOLBILZ said: You can't talk money and gloss over how little they've gotten from Christian Benford. He'd be near worthless in free agency this offseason if he continues to have a 110 passer rating against and 0 passes defensed. So his extension is looking like a windfall compared to the one year prove-it deal he'd be looking at at this point. Ed Oliver will only play like 8% of the teams defensive snaps coming off a season when he was one of the very worst run defending DT's in the NFL. Two years into the extension, he's had one bad year and one lost year. Rousseau would easily get the same deal or more than he got from the Bills in free agency this offseason. That's just the nature of DL value. You disagree? If not then you guys are just b!tching at the wall for the sake of it. We can be disappointed that Rousseau hasn't risen up to carry the defense like Allen does with the offense but aside from him nobody else on the Bills does that either. The team lacks elite talent at premium positions but Rousseau is not paid like an elite player. Not even close. My Spidey senses tingled when I saw this post Quote
GoBills808 Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 5 minutes ago, Avisan said: They had 35 net yards in the 2nd half and never led by more than a score. There is zero percent chance they were no longer trying to move the ball. I would consider that a rock-solid outing were it not for the two interceptions, especially considering the amount of pressure being generated. You thought we were generating pressure on Mills😂😂 no he just sucks and missed throws Our defense did not meaningfully impact that game, and against a bad offense led by a backup QB that is not a tall task Quote
Avisan Posted 59 minutes ago Posted 59 minutes ago 4 minutes ago, GoBills808 said: You thought we were generating pressure on Mills😂😂 no he just sucks and missed throws Our defense did not meaningfully impact that game, and against a bad offense led by a backup QB that is not a tall task You literally listed Allen's statline, so I responded in kind. Was I supposed to pretend that 24/34 for 253 belonged to Mills? Mills had a couple missed throws in the game but the Bills clamped down hard in the second half. I don't get why you are having trouble acknowledging that offensive production was much lower for the Texans than it was in previous weeks. Quote
GoBills808 Posted 48 minutes ago Posted 48 minutes ago i listed it because you conveniently left out Mills 2/0😂😂 look, i get your perspective- that this limited offense led by allen should be scoring 25+ w zero turnovers on the best defense in the league or they've failed. and defensively as long as we play well for one half, mission accomplished Quote
billsfan714 Posted 38 minutes ago Posted 38 minutes ago Think I saw a stat that was the lowest pressure rate allowed by the Texans OL in about 2 years. Quote
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