Does Mecole make it to next week?

[Draconator]

1 hour ago, PonyBoy said:

If the mods punished everyone here for one bad post it literally could be considered "Two" Bills Drive for the number of posters remaining 😃

Simon and Virgil?

[GASabresIUFan]

Over his 81 game career Mecole has had 10 fumbles (only 3 recovered).  So about 2 fumbles every 17 games.

 

Codrington over his 21 game career had 3 fumbles (2 recovered).  So also about 2 fumbles every 17 games, but Mecole also contributes in the passing game and has more "opportunites" to fumble.  

 

I'm not advocating for Mecole to be cut.  In fact, I think the opposite.  I think McD put him in a terrible position and should have insisted on punt returns be fair caught until he gets back into the swing of things.  Prior to yesterday's game, Mecole's last NFL games was 11.5 months ago with KC. 

 

[BRH]

Just by opening up the field with that deep route he has already contributed more to the team this year than Codrington, and that’s without even looking at the 61-yard return.

[ControllerOfPlanetX]

We don’t need a punt returner…we need a punt catcher.

 

[SunDSolar]

No

[Buffalo716]

Not going to lie that was the one thing I was worried about with hardman

 

I've seen him cough some up with the Chiefs too including versus Us in the playoffs I'm pretty sure

 

He occasionally has fumbleitis 

Edited 1 hour ago by Buffalo716

[GASabresIUFan]

FYI Mecole only had 4 offensive snaps before his "injury."

[BRH]

6 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said:

He occasionally has fumbleitis 

 

He also occasionally makes house calls, which is more than we can say for just about every returner we’ve had since Terence McGee.

[34-78-83]

At the stadium, we saw the deep pass play to Mecole as a drop. Was that truly not the case?

[SectionC3]

36 minutes ago, SoonerBillsFan said:

He better.  Immediate impact on ST and had Josh been accurate, he would have had a deep ball

It was right in front of me.  Good throw.  He should have had it.  I felt like he slowed down just a tic before the ball arrived. 

1 minute ago, BRH said:

 

He also occasionally makes house calls, which is more than we can say for just about every returner we’ve had since Terence McGee.

Hines.  Harty, with a huge one.  

[Buffalo716]

1 minute ago, BRH said:

 

He also occasionally makes house calls, which is more than we can say for just about every returner we’ve had since Terence McGee.

 

I hear that but he hasn't taken 1 to the house in 7 years 

 

I wouldn't say that's occasionally.. I would say it's happened before and not in almost 7 years

[SectionC3]

1 hour ago, RoyBatty is alive said:

You are basically reinforcing my point, coaches esp McD cant go around saying obvious game critical decisions, esp to an experienced vet which he is.  Are coaches supposed to remind players not to make dumb decisions?  Training camp or pre-season for young players, sure.

That’s kind of what coaching is.  Hey, base d here.   FC anything either in front of you or just behind you (the latter I believe was the case here). 

[BRH]

1 minute ago, SectionC3 said:

It was right in front of me.  Good throw.  He should have had it.  I felt like he slowed down just a tic before the ball arrived. 

 

He was probably used to how Mahomes’ throws die at the end.  😜

[Guns N' Rosen]

Speed kills 

Hardman has it 

With our other WRs and their speed, hypothetically, a critical mass is reached and the opponent then has to adjust their strategy in order to not leave a wide open WR out there 

 

Boxes get lighter in response, and against Buf that means the rushing attack adds Josh to it's home run threat, which creates another problem for the opponent to compensate for 

 

Hardman being on the field opens more elements of the offense up vs the guy he's replacing IMO

 

NOBODY in the league is afraid of what Keon will do to them and it's apparent when you see what defenses throw at us when he's on the field. He brings almost nothing to the table, he's not learning HOW to bring anything, and he's at the point where if he was going to evolve into someone serviceable, it would be showing 

[Big Turk]

46 minutes ago, BuffaloBillyG said:

I'm going to go out on a limb here. I think if you showed these stats to Beane he would say "Yup, I'm well aware" and still sign him.

 

The thing is, Beane and McDermott are a lot of things. Thorough happens to be one of them. I predict that they both knew those numbers and are willing to absorb some of the bad for some of the good. They needed a jolt to the offense. They needed a jolt to the return game. He can provide both. And he did in the first time he touched the ball as a Buffalo Bill. I think they are willing to take the bad plays in stride if he can provide a bit of needed juice.

 

The guy had 3 days of practice and hasn't touched a ball in a live game since preseason. I think the likelihood that he wouldn't have his best game right off the bat was high. 

 

The best thing they can do is use him as a decoy to run off coverage but also take some shots to him....if they connect, great, if not, he still opens up a lot underneath for others.  Shakir had a massive void he was in thanks to Hardman last game and if Allen didn't take that shot to him, he could have hit Shakir for 25 yards on a crosser with nobody anywhere near him and he might have scored.

[ColoradoBills]

10 minutes ago, 34-78-83 said:

At the stadium, we saw the deep pass play to Mecole as a drop. Was that truly not the case?

 

I didn't see it that way and it wasn't officially scored a drop.

[BRH]

1 minute ago, ColoradoBills said:

 

I didn't see it that way and it wasn't officially scored a drop.

 

It wasn’t scored a drop for the same reason that an infielder doesn’t get an error when he really should have gotten close enough to make a play.

 

Watching it on replay, it’s clear Hardman had a step and if he just keeps running under the ball it lands in his breadbasket.  He will learn soon enough that he can’t outrun a Josh Allen throw.

[ColoradoBills]

1 minute ago, BRH said:

 

It wasn’t scored a drop for the same reason that an infielder doesn’t get an error when he really should have gotten close enough to make a play.

 

Watching it on replay, it’s clear Hardman had a step and if he just keeps running under the ball it lands in his breadbasket.  He will learn soon enough that he can’t outrun a Josh Allen throw.

 

While that is true it also was a very long ball in some nasty wind.

[Psautcsk]

2 hours ago, GASabresIUFan said:

Terrible fumble at a terrible time.  Is this all on Mecole or should McD have told him to just fair catch the punt?  

 

I understand he was signed to add a more dynamic presence to the kick return game.  He broke one early and then on kick off they avoided him the rest of the game and got burned by Davis.  I guess my question is should McD have been more conservative with a guy new the organization and has been out of of football for a while, especially on punt returns where the returner is under more immediate pressure than on a kick off.  

 

Given the score and the fact that we'd have had a short field even with a fair catch, I don't think I'd have risked the return in the that situation.  

 

Will the Bills cut Mecole over the mistake?  I understand they announced he left the game with an injury, but I'm a little skeptical.  It feels more like a benching similar to the one Cook received following a bad fumble.

They should have told him to get away from the ball and not even attempt to catch it with the way the wind was blowing.

[Big Turk]

10 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said:

 

I didn't see it that way and it wasn't officially scored a drop.

 

It was a tough catch because he had to stretch his hands out but it did go right through his hands.