11/9/25 GAMEDAY Bills at Dolphins Post Game Thread

[thewookie1]

Apparently some Bills people have found some clips of Allen making decisions not to throw it to open-ish receivers.

 

In all honesty I think Allen just doesn't trust what he sees and doesn't trust his players will make the play. I think its less to do with defensive trickery and more to do with his receivers rarely being open. This can create a situation where Allen sees a man running open and then doubts he's actually open due to its rarity. "I see Coleman open, he is rarely open, the Dolphins must be doing something I don't see" 

[fridge]

7 minutes ago, BillytheKid said:

There is a reason no QB and head coach have ever won a Super Bowl together if they don’t do it in the first 5 years together. 
 

Teams start to know their tendencies across the league by that point and enough teams will have game plans that one of them will always knock them out before they win it. 
 

Huge reason Bills and Ravens both need to find new coaches or QB’s. Obviously they will both choose to keep their QB’s first but if they keep the coach it will be the same old thing again and again. Both teams wasting their QB’s with head coaches who can’t take their players any farther. 
 

Have to make a change at coach if the Bills want to win it all. Won’t happen with the coach they have now. History already proves it. There have been 33 of them and they are zero for 33 so far. 

 

McDermott has also proven at this point that he actually doesn't understand how to utilize Allen to his fullest potential. We have completely bought in to our 3 TE running attack and have the highest percentage of rushing plays in the NFL. This is not an offense schemed for an MVP QB. McDermott truly does not value the way we would come out in the Daboll era with 20+ passes and get the offense rolling and a big lead. He wants to eek out wins. That's the mentality when Alex Smith is your QB. It's just a complete mis-match in personnel and coaching philosophy.

And we know its McDermott at this point because EVERY OC reverts to this with him if you give them enough time. He and Daboll aren't on good terms (assuredly a power struggle of some sort), he made Dorsey a scape goat, and now Brady -- who was once running an effective 4WR split shotgun offense in CAR -- is basically trying to just call Kromer's rushing attack every chance he can.

People claiming for a shiny new WR or blaming only Beane don't realize this is EXACTLY what the conservative McDermott wants. He's said as much. He doesn't want us running a no huddle two minute offense because he doesn't want to gas out his defense. He doesn't want to let Josh go off his leash because he's worried about injuries. He doesn't want to have a high octane offense with deep routes because we might throw a pick. McDermott doesn't want to take risks and he has shown this in the way he's built the team.

[Not at the table Karlos]

6 minutes ago, thewookie1 said:

Apparently some Bills people have found some clips of Allen making decisions not to throw it to open-ish receivers.

 

In all honesty I think Allen just doesn't trust what he sees and doesn't trust his players will make the play. I think its less to do with defensive trickery and more to do with his receivers rarely being open. This can create a situation where Allen sees a man running open and then doubts he's actually open due to its rarity. "I see Coleman open, he is rarely open, the Dolphins must be doing something I don't see" 

Allen has missed open receivers his entire career.  It happens a lot. It’s not a recent thing that started with this group of receivers. However this group may be making it worse. He’s bailed clean pockets as receivers were coming open only to end up in a poor situation a few times recently, 

[MikePJ76]

3 hours ago, Not at the table Karlos said:

Allen has missed open receivers his entire career.  It happens a lot. It’s not a recent thing that started with this group of receivers. However this group may be making it worse. He’s bailed clean pockets as receivers were coming open only to end up in a poor situation a few times recently, 

Everybody misses open guys every game. Go back and watch mahomes last week, he repeatedly threw balls to contested areas when there were other guys open.

 

go look at the deep ball he threw to worthy on max, he had three guys wide open, two of them in the middle of the field and he took the tougher deep ball.

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

4 hours ago, fridge said:

 

McDermott has also proven at this point that he actually doesn't understand how to utilize Allen to his fullest potential. We have completely bought in to our 3 TE running attack and have the highest percentage of rushing plays in the NFL. This is not an offense schemed for an MVP QB. McDermott truly does not value the way we would come out in the Daboll era with 20+ passes and get the offense rolling and a big lead. He wants to eek out wins. That's the mentality when Alex Smith is your QB. It's just a complete mis-match in personnel and coaching philosophy.

And we know its McDermott at this point because EVERY OC reverts to this with him if you give them enough time. He and Daboll aren't on good terms (assuredly a power struggle of some sort), he made Dorsey a scape goat, and now Brady -- who was once running an effective 4WR split shotgun offense in CAR -- is basically trying to just call Kromer's rushing attack every chance he can.

People claiming for a shiny new WR or blaming only Beane don't realize this is EXACTLY what the conservative McDermott wants. He's said as much. He doesn't want us running a no huddle two minute offense because he doesn't want to gas out his defense. He doesn't want to let Josh go off his leash because he's worried about injuries. He doesn't want to have a high octane offense with deep routes because we might throw a pick. McDermott doesn't want to take risks and he has shown this in the way he's built the team.

All of this is true 

[Chandler#81]

I’m throwing the towel in 🤷‍♂️

 

[Bill from NYC]

4 hours ago, fridge said:

 

People claiming for a shiny new WR or blaming only Beane don't realize this is EXACTLY what the conservative McDermott wants. He's said as much. He doesn't want us running a no huddle two minute offense because he doesn't want to gas out his defense. He doesn't want to let Josh go off his leash because he's worried about injuries. He doesn't want to have a high octane offense with deep routes because we might throw a pick. McDermott doesn't want to take risks and he has shown this in the way he's built the team.

I have been saying this for years. McDermott is the ultimate boss, not Beane. McDermott has two primary concerns. One is defensive tackles, the other is cornerbacks. He has little interest in providing Josh with top notch wideouts. I know, people will point at Keon Coleman but they traded down twice before they drafted him, skipping over a far better wr in the process.

 

 Do look at the 2025 draft. Look at his earliest picks. I don't know how anyone can think that these picks came from Beane. McDermott holds far too much sway in this oeganization. He has since he came to town and gave the Mahomes pick to KC, after which he promptly drafted a (now useless) cornerback.

 

I really do hope that McDermott is not our coach in 2026, but it is like he cast a spell on Mr. Pegula.

 

https://www.drafthistory.com/index.php/teams/bills

 

[thenorthremembers]

28 minutes ago, Bill from NYC said:

I have been saying this for years. McDermott is the ultimate boss, not Beane. McDermott has two primary concerns. One is defensive tackles, the other is cornerbacks. He has little interest in providing Josh with top notch wideouts. I know, people will point at Keon Coleman but they traded down twice before they drafted him, skipping over a far better wr in the process.

 

 Do look at the 2025 draft. Look at his earliest picks. I don't know how anyone can think that these picks came from Beane. McDermott holds far too much sway in this oeganization. He has since he came to town and gave the Mahomes pick to KC, after which he promptly drafted a (now useless) cornerback.

 

I really do hope that McDermott is not our coach in 2026, but it is like he cast a spell on Mr. Pegula.

 

https://www.drafthistory.com/index.php/teams/bills

 

 

You can think it all you want it doesnt make it true.  They both report to Pegula.  McDermott is not Beanes boss.   If Beane is letting McDermott walk all over him its because he doesnt have balls, not because McDermott is the "ultimate boss," whatever that is.

[Chandler#81]

The Bills suck. The Sabres Suck. The long, cold winter is upon us. 
I wanna new Drug!