11/9/25 GAMEDAY Bills at Dolphins Post Game Thread

[JohnNord]

5 minutes ago, Psautcsk said:

I turned on the Pats game late in the 4th quarter only to see Mack Hollins catch a bomb,  running open down the sideline, to pretty much seal the game. I am so jealous of what the Pats have at receiver and how they make one big play after another. Oh, by the way, I have heard their wide receiver group is not very good.

Patriots WR’s aren’t that much more talented.  OC is better and QB is playing better 

[Sojourner]

Just now, Bruffalo said:

I mean I would trade Jeudy for any WR not named Shakir in a heartbeat.

 

Zay Flowers is way better than anyone in this room.

 

You might have a point with the Giants, but they do have Nabers and got unlucky.

 

The raiders are bad too, fair.

 

 

 

 

See I think Flowers and Shakir aren’t that far off. Flowers is however like you said, better and I can’t disagree but the margin isn’t that expansive. 
 

Juedy, at least to me is just a high volume guy. His best games this season are seeing 12+ targets. Even then the stats aren’t wowing you like a lot of other guys can/would do. Would I take him on this team? Sure, it’s an upgrade on depth but I doubt he’d come in and be doing much more than Shakir does. 
 

But without the sake of minor disagreements, we see it the same way 

 

They are a pitiful product collectively and not something Josh should be having trotted out there. 
 

Kincaid makes them somewhat serviceable when he’s in. That seems to be another problem going forward…

[Johnnycage46]

Just now, JohnNord said:

Patriots WR’s aren’t that much more talented.  OC is better and QB is playing better 

Diggs and Hollins are a lot better than the Bills WRs.

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

2 minutes ago, Johnnycage46 said:

 

I would legitimately consider switching fan bases to the team he landed on if they traded him. I've never been player over team as a fan, but what they have given him to work with most years is ridiculous and laughable to the point that I am starting to hate the organization for how they have handled him.

I wouldn't switch teams but I would root for him. He gave his all here, only to be hampered by all time stupid organizational decisions 

[MasterStrategist]

1 minute ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said:

This is just how it is the offense has one or two bad games every year and it’s all people talk about. The defense has one or two good games in 8 seasons and it’s just a laundry list of excuses. It’s not fair for the offense to have to score 30 every single game. You have to operate in reality. The defense never holding their own kills us. It’s completely ridiculous that we spend so much time complaining about WRs. We had the most productive offense in the league going into today. Why are we ignoring the real issue?

You know the Carolina game --- how much did the offense have to produce when the defense basically gift wrapped several opportunities?

 

This offense is an illusion.  We thrive when the defense takes the ball away --- when we dont set up the offense, how many games did we put up over 30 points?

[TNBills]

This still mostly stems from the Diggs drama. We drafted Coleman to be a compliment, not the man. If we still had a Diggs who can get open, a Shakir, Kincaid, and then Coleman we would be good. Until we truely replace the Diggs spot or Palmer steps up and takes it we will be in trouble. 

[90sBills]

3 hours ago, Ridgewaycynic2013 said:

I made it two callers into Bulldog's postgame call in show.  Second caller wants more emotion from Josh Allen.  I turned it off, and went back to TBD exclusively. 😁

Nothing like a bubble to ease the troubles. 

[Brianmoorman4jesus]

4 minutes ago, MasterStrategist said:

You know the Carolina game --- how much did the offense have to produce when the defense basically gift wrapped several opportunities?

 

This offense is an illusion.  We thrive when the defense takes the ball away --- when we dont set up the offense, how many games did we put up over 30 points?

The offense scored 30 rushing and 30 passing TDs last year. It’s the only reason we are ever even close to good. It’s the reason we have won the division 5 years in A row and it’s even we won our first playoff games in almost 30 years. The offense is why we are relevant and why we were perennial Super Bowl contenders. The defenses is why we haven’t won a Super Bowl yet. It’s why we couldn’t win the 13 seconds game. It’s why we got embarrassed by the bengals. It’s why Houston came back on us and it’s why the chiefs beat us every year. I’m not doing this. This teams problem is, has been and will continue to be the defense. And much more specifically the guy responsible for lining it up. The offense is all we have. That’s why we lost today. God knows you aren’t wining with 13….the defense would NEVER make stops to give you a low scoring cheap win. That thought wouldn’t ever even cross anyone’s mind.

Edited 19 hours ago by Brianmoorman4jesus

[BananaB]

6 minutes ago, Sojourner said:

Defense is not great but they are missing players all over the place and other guys who are not performing uo to their standard. The offense doesn’t have to be perfect, they just don’t have to turn the ball over. 
 

Offense has absolutely no one of significance missing. 
 

Turning the ball over is the only problem. Pats game it cost us. Atlanta game, cost us. Fish part 2, cost us.
 

There’s problems all over this team but the unit we should be expecting the most out of are the ones not living uo to par.
 

Offense needs better play calling and call security. 
 

If you said to anyone we’d be middle of the pack, which they are, I think we would accept that if the offense wasn’t in such a rut as it is. 
 

Takes 2 to tango. But by standards and expectations, the offense is the one falling short. 

If the offense can’t put up 25 to 30  we can’t win. Thats high expectations week after week with the scrubs we have at WR.  Like I said, we used just about every asset we hd to sure up D. 
 

When our D is giving up 3 scores early in games, its makes the Os job that much harder. Yeah they settled down for a bit, I guess.  Until they didn’t. lol. 

We got problems on both sides of the ball and it’s not just injuries on D. 

[jaybeezee]

Per @NextGenStats Josh Allen's average time to throw was 3.53 seconds today against the Dolphins. The longest time to throw of his career since 2018.

That sums up the state of the Bills passing game

[BananaB]

1 minute ago, jaybeezee said:

Per @NextGenStats Josh Allen's average time to throw was 3.53 seconds today against the Dolphins. The longest time to throw of his career since 2018.

That sums up the state of the Bills passing game

Does that include him running around for his life for close to 10 seconds, or just in the pocket?

Edited 19 hours ago by BananaB

[Psautcsk]

6 minutes ago, Sojourner said:

See I think Flowers and Shakir aren’t that far off. Flowers is however like you said, better and I can’t disagree but the margin isn’t that expansive. 
 

Juedy, at least to me is just a high volume guy. His best games this season are seeing 12+ targets. Even then the stats aren’t wowing you like a lot of other guys can/would do. Would I take him on this team? Sure, it’s an upgrade on depth but I doubt he’d come in and be doing much more than Shakir does. 
 

But without the sake of minor disagreements, we see it the same way 

 

They are a pitiful product collectively and not something Josh should be having trotted out there. 
 

Kincaid makes them somewhat serviceable when he’s in. That seems to be another problem going forward…

He will be out multiple weeks.

[MasterStrategist]

Just now, Brianmoorman4jesus said:

The offense scored 30 rushing and 30 passing TDs last year. It’s the only reason we are ever even close to good. It’s the reason we have won the division 5 years I. A row and it’s even we won our first playoff games in almost 30 years. The offense is why we are relevant and why we were perennial Super Bowl contenders. The defenses is why we haven’t won a Super Bowl yet. It’s why we couldn’t win the 13 seconds game. It’s why we got embarrassed by the bengals. It’s why Houston came back on us and it’s why the chiefs beat us every year. I’m not doing this. This teams problem is, has been will continue to be the defense. And much more specifically the guy responsible for lining it up. The offense is all we have. That’s why we lost today. God knows you aren’t wining with 13….the defense would NEVER make stops to give you a low scoring cheap win. That thought wouldn’t ever even cross anyone’s mind.

Again, this season--- why is this offense struggling?  You really think the defense is holding the team back, THiS SEASON?

 

Simple question(s).

[muppy]

40 minutes ago, Nitro said:

Have family and friends who went to the game.  Now they have to struggle to get home with the flight delays and cancelations. Oh well.

same with me. except it was my son and his family who had flight plans cancelled. To see me.  Booooooooooo

 

a la ******

 

this is going to  be a long week. I really hope we get some good news health wise. anything to forget today

[MasterStrategist]

2 minutes ago, BananaB said:

If the offense can’t put up 25 to 30  we can’t win. Thats high expectations week after week with the scrubs we have at WR.  Like I said, we used just about every asset we hd to sure up D. 
 

When our D is giving up 3 scores early in games, its makes the Os job that much harder. Yeah they settled down for a bit, I guess.  Until they didn’t. lol. 

We got problems on both sides of the ball and it’s not just injuries on D. 

And the offense cant go 3 and out consecutively either OR miss on key 4th downs/turn it over in critical situations.

 

Our offense was non existent 1st half.  We gave Miami the ball at midfield.  Drove it and fumbled by Cook.

 

2nd half, same story after a great drive but we throw a pick.  

 

Its the equivalent of having a pitcher give up 2 runs in the 1st, but shut them down thru the 6th.  But offense cant produce.

 

We are out of sync on offense this year.  Simple fact.  We have consistency issues, I dont care how many points weve scored.  We lost 3 games now because our offense cant do its job.

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

How awesome would it have been to replace McDermott with Ben Johnson?

 

Well that ship sailed 

[Bullfrog]

3 hours ago, Success said:

Watching Josh rush around in the pocket looking downfield, evading the rush, and still being unable to find anyone open - again & again & again - is really hair-pulling kind of stuff.

 

And the worst part of it is seeing how weary & frustrated he looks, pretty much every game.  It's like the joy isn't there anymore.

 

You can only carry bad management so far. I have seen this at my place of employment. Everyone give it there all but eventually the joy is taken from everyone and people become poisonous. I know the culture is a plus but if your employees don't believe in you anymore you are not going anywhere.

[MikePJ76]

4 minutes ago, MasterStrategist said:

Again, this season--- why is this offense struggling?  You really think the defense is holding the team back, THiS SEASON?

 

Simple question(s).

The defense has given up back breaking explosive plays this year over and over and over.

 

Yes I do.  This was the year they were going to redo the defense the way they redid the offense in 23 and 24 from the line to the backs/tight ends.  

 

It has failed thanks to injury, player regression and reliance on old players who should not be playing in these games.

 

The explosive plays they have given up this year and the poor tackling has been atrocious.  Mcdermott had no plans to call plays this year but it has been so bad he has had to step in.  It got worse today.

 

No offense can win with their defense giving up explosive plays like this.

[Brianmoorman4jesus]

6 minutes ago, MasterStrategist said:

Again, this season--- why is this offense struggling?  You really think the defense is holding the team back, THiS SEASON?

 

Simple question(s).

Are you kidding me? Yes. Of course it is. This might be the worst one so far. We couldn’t stop the saints FFS. Our defense is killing us. The bills were the number one offense in the league going into today. Do you watch the games?

[KOKBILLS]

3 minutes ago, MasterStrategist said:

And the offense cant go 3 and out consecutively either OR miss on key 4th downs/turn it over in critical situations.

 

Our offense was non existent 1st half.  We gave Miami the ball at midfield.  Drove it and fumbled by Cook.

 

2nd half, same story after a great drive but we throw a pick.  

 

Its the equivalent of having a pitcher give up 2 runs in the 1st, but shut them down thru the 6th.  But offense cant produce.

 

We are out of sync on offense this year.  Simple fact.  We have consistency issues, I dont care how many points weve scored.  We lost 3 games now because our offense cant do its job.

 

Not to mention... at least the Defense has got excuses... The list of players that have missed at least one game this year on Defense only 9 games in is a mile long... And most of them have missed multiple games...