JGMcD2 Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 1 hour ago, GunnerBill said: There are some legitimate criticisms to make of McDermott. Some of which you allude to in your first para. But your contention in the OP is still completely wrong. Nobody is trying to cement him in a pantheon of great coaches. He’s a really good head coach - that’s not changing. When he eventually gets fired and lands with another team (because he will), he’ll win there too. The only thing missing is a Super Bowl. Add that to his regular-season success, and he’s in the pantheon. Nothing else will get him there though, you can’t be there without it. Quote
Orlando Buffalo Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago Threads like this are funny to me because it is not like he came into a great franchise and just kept it sailing, he turned us from losers into winners. If you take away the second year he was here when we purged the roster roster he would have the highest win percentage of any coach currently in NFL and he is currently above McVay, Peyton and Reid. The dude deserved his credit. That being said if no SB win this year we should look to see who we can bring him to make it happen, we have built this team as best we can for him Quote
Mr. WEO Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago Only Madden and McD don't have at least 1 SB among those 100 wins. Quote
Dan Darragh Posted 2 hours ago Author Posted 2 hours ago 16 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: Only Madden and McD don't have at least 1 SB among those 100 wins. I seem to remember Madden winning a SB decisively against the Vikings. Quote
Mr. WEO Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago (edited) 2 minutes ago, Dan Darragh said: I seem to remember Madden winning a SB decisively against the Vikings. 8th season, you're right Edited 2 hours ago by Mr. WEO Quote
thenorthremembers Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 6 hours ago, BillsFanForever19 said: If it's such a nothing stat - than why isn't there more coaches in the modern era who can make the claim? I get having issues with McDermott as a coach. But complaining that Mike Florio is reporting on a stat that puts him in rare air is kind of ridiculous. As is the idea that the Bills PR team is "working overtime" for this article. I highly doubt this is information that needed to be fed to Florio. This is the kind of stuff he reports on the daily. Better off just to ignore it. They will pick apart everything about McDermott because they still haven't gotten over 13 seconds. Quote
boater Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago OK. Then do it by winning percentage. That neutralizes the season length factor. Out of 32 coaches, McD is ranked number 4. Quote
GunnerBill Posted just now Posted just now 3 hours ago, JGMcD2 said: He’s a really good head coach - that’s not changing. When he eventually gets fired and lands with another team (because he will), he’ll win there too. The only thing missing is a Super Bowl. Add that to his regular-season success, and he’s in the pantheon. Nothing else will get him there though, you can’t be there without it. Pantheon of "greatest ever" I think it would take more than 1 Superbowl. I agree with a Superbowl he will be among the best of his era, but given the comparison was guys like Paul Brown I don't think one Superbowl gets McD into that territory. Quote
RochesterLifer Posted just now Posted just now 4 hours ago, Dan Darragh said: Actually, I'm not a "fire McD" guy but any Bills fan with a pulse would have to confess some disappointment with him. It's not the "zero Superbowls" thing, it's that with a "defense-minded coach" we've had way too many games where we couldn't get a stop on third down, especially with all the draft capital we've invested on defense. And I may have said this once or twice (or maybe 15 times) - I think his biggest failure is NOT 13 seconds, but his failure to be accountable for 13 seconds. It was clearly a coaching meltdown in several aspects, yet he's never owned it or told us why it won't ever happen again. So I think he's a guy who's got a damaged public persona, and some geek with a new HP calculator found a way to put him on the same list as Paul Brown. It sounds pretty lame to me. Still, I don't buy the "fire McD" approach, partly because so many new coaches fail and partly because I'm a Sabres fan too and I've seen what happens when Terry gets to hire folks. The bolded sentence is an absolute fail. Do you always tell other people what they must think? I have a pulse, have followed everything about the Bills for 55 years, and am VERY happy McDermott is our coach. He will remain in that position and continue successfully for as long as he wishes. Get over yourself. Quote
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