3 up 3 down week 9

[Walking Tall]

31 minutes ago, Ya Digg? said:

I completely disagree with having Davis play over those 2 guys. Gabe should play because of injuries only, not because of performance. People forget all of the drops, miscommunication, and interceptions that happened on balls targeted to Davis

No, I haven’t forgot that at all. Coleman is an albatross. I’ll take Davis any day of the week over Coleman.

[NeverOutNick]

Up:

 

Josh and Cook and Kincaid - These 3 need to stay healthy. Great game from them all. 
 

Hairston and Bishop - These were the difference in the secondary. Bishop everywhere on the field and Hairston kept up with worthy easily. Honestly he may be faster than worthy with pads on. Not handsy guy knows how to play corner 

 

Hoecht!! - His injury is HUGE. You could see it at the moment that he came off of the field. Our pass rush wasn’t nearly as consistent. Somehow, that guy made every other pass rusher on our team better and I don’t think we can make up with that in a realistic trade deadline deal

 

3 down:

 

Defensive coaching on long downs: we still give up way too many third and fourth and lungs over and over and over again. I don’t blame the players because it happens multiple times every game and you can go back and look for the people that want them to pretend it was only the fourth down.

 

Offensive coaching when up: Brady needs to stop getting cute when we’re up and keep feeding cook. 
 

Cam Lewis: T Johnson has lost a step but Lewis consistently gets burned. He’s just not good. At least TJ still comes up big once in a while. I think for now we just need to get Shaq Thompson (when healthy) on the field more to play 4-3 at a greater rate. Or maybe there’s a way to get Hancock, Ingram or white in that nickel role. I’m not sure what it is, but it’s definitely not Lewis. The guy can stay on special teams but please no more on defense. 

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

1 hour ago, 2003Contenders said:

Up:

Josh: he got his mojo back!

 

Defensive Line Rotation: Here is where everybody ate (Bosa, Epenesa, Hoecht, Groot, Walker). Such a shame about Hoecht's Achilles.

 

Spencer Brown: Remember before the bye, he was either out or compromised in each of the 2 losses. The bye week came at a good time for him, and I think the presence of a healthy Spencer Brown makes a HUGE difference.

 

Down:

Bernard: His instincts seemed woefully off yesterday, and it seemed like every time something bad happened, he was seen on the screen!

 

Taron Johnson: He has struggled quite a bit at times this season, and I think his absence yesterday revealed that the team just might be better off with Lewis out there.

 

Trade prospects: It's about 24 hours now until the trading deadline. The "everyone eats" mantra was in full force yesterday with 10 different players recording a reception. Palmer should be returning soon, and Gabe Davis may be making an appearance soon too. Personally, I still love the idea of trying to make a trade for a bona fide deep threat, but is Beane going to feel the same way? Likewise, will the spectacular play of youngsters in the secondary yesterday (Hairston and Bishop, in particular) preclude them from adding reinforcements there as well?

Still think there will be some wr trade action…can’t say I’m 100% sure the bills will grab one though.  Saw some quote that the raiders are open to trading meyers but might not move on from him despite him being on an expiring contract because they ‘want to finish the season strong’ which is nonsense haha teams are definitely holding out to the final buzzer to start bidding wars it seems 

[Chicharito]

Up

1) Cole Bishop he has arrived.

2) Joe Brady- finally schemed up WR to get open. Josh missed a few wide open downfield throws. But I get it he is not used to seeing that. Not to mention finally getting Ty Johnson involved.

3) josh Allen- managed the game and completed passes time and time again in big spots.

 

Down

1)Deone Walker- He is way too damn big to get pushed straight back by a single lineman. Watch the hunt TD run.

2) Keon Coleman- Trash

3) defensive timeouts

[The Jokeman]

3 minutes ago, Chicharito said:

Up

1) Cole Bishop he has arrived.

2) Joe Brady- finally schemed up WR to get open. Josh missed a few wide open downfield throws. But I get it he is not used to seeing that. Not to mention finally getting Ty Johnson involved.

3) josh Allen- managed the game and completed passes time and time again in big spots.

 

Down

1)Deone Walker- He is way too damn big to get pushed straight back by a single lineman. Watch the hunt TD run.

2) Keon Coleman- Trash

3) defensive timeouts

Keon caught his 2 targets and one of which lead to a first down. The other made it 3rd and 3 oh also caused a pass interference that lead to a first down. I guess you're lamenting he didn't get stats like Worthy or JuJu or Thornton had for KC?

[quincy]

Up

 

Torrence - Liked his extra needed help on one of Josh's TD runs - kept Jones at bay all game 

Moore - Caught his one target and survived the KC DB sandwich for a big play in the 4th quarter

Coleman - caught his two targets and drew the PI on the other ball thrown his way - not in any way amazing but he contributed to the win, a stepping stone? 

 

Down

 

Bernard - A down year so far after his extension, Shaq looked better calling the D last week, more confusion yesterday and he had a bad individual play on 4th down

Davis - no rushes or targets and only touched the ball on KO returns

Joe Brady - his playcalling before Prater's missed field goal - the last two short gain rushes were very similar in nature

 

 

[Chicharito]

14 minutes ago, The Jokeman said:

Keon caught his 2 targets and one of which lead to a first down. The other made it 3rd and 3 oh also caused a pass interference that lead to a first down. I guess you're lamenting he didn't get stats like Worthy or JuJu or Thornton had for KC?

Great so did Hollywood Brown KC’s WR 3. We want a consistent presence on offense. He’s has High School speed and maturity. 

[JP51]

4 hours ago, PatsFanNH said:

One question.. why not just punt instead of going for a long FG? Wouldn’t a punt all but end the game especially if he pushes it out inside the 20? That way you can keep the clock running until after it 

Yeah excellent question its one of those you make it and ice the game its the right call you dont you shoulda punted 

[RedDog3940]

4 hours ago, Chicharito said:

Up

1) Cole Bishop he has arrived.

2) Joe Brady- finally schemed up WR to get open. Josh missed a few wide open downfield throws. But I get it he is not used to seeing that. Not to mention finally getting Ty Johnson involved.

3) josh Allen- managed the game and completed passes time and time again in big spots.

 

Down

1)Deone Walker- He is way too damn big to get pushed straight back by a single lineman. Watch the hunt TD run.

2) Keon Coleman- Trash

3) defensive timeouts

I don't get the hate for Coleman.  He wasn't great in this game, but he also wasn't "trash".  Eric Moulds was below average the first 2 years of his career.  Give Coleman a chance.

[PatsFanNH]

3 hours ago, JP51 said:

Yeah excellent question its one of those you make it and ice the game its the right call you dont you shoulda punted 

I was not saying it was the wrong call just thinking why not punt and eliminate the chance of a block FG being returned for a TD.  I am no expert why I asked the question.. 

[Mike in Horseheads]

7 hours ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said:

Still think there will be some wr trade action…can’t say I’m 100% sure the bills will grab one though.  Saw some quote that the raiders are open to trading meyers but might not move on from him despite him being on an expiring contract because they ‘want to finish the season strong’ which is nonsense haha teams are definitely holding out to the final buzzer to start bidding wars it seems 

I don't get the want for Myers. He has done nothing all season

24 minutes ago, PatsFanNH said:

I was not saying it was the wrong call just thinking why not punt and eliminate the chance of a block FG being returned for a TD.  I am no expert why I asked the question.. 

What if the punt is blocked and ran back for a TD?

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

16 minutes ago, Mike in Horseheads said:

I don't get the want for Myers. He has done nothing all season

What if the punt is blocked and ran back for a TD?

Meyers is a solid player that has contributed with garbage qbs and garbage surrounding talent lol I could see him turning some heads if a non garbage team gave him a shot 😂

 

was probably on his way to another 800 ish receiving yard season with another terrible qb/oline/running game/surrounding talent type situation.  Bowers is great but he missed a decent chunk of the season 

 

don’t think he’s a bills target but maybe someone new ends up with him 

Edited 17 hours ago by Generic_Bills_Fan

[JP51]

2 hours ago, PatsFanNH said:

I was not saying it was the wrong call just thinking why not punt and eliminate the chance of a block FG being returned for a TD.  I am no expert why I asked the question.. 

Indeed its a good one i thought it myself when we went to kick the FG 

[Freddie's Dead]

Up:

 

Cole Bishop - Defensive MVP.  Was all over the field.  Saved the game by knocking down the Hail Mary in the EZ.

Bosa and Co. DL - They absolutely assaulted Patrick Mahomes and the KC running game.  You know what I mean by assaulted, huh?  WELL I MEAN ASSAULTED!!

Dalton "Reuben" Kincaid - Kid just gets better and better.  Our best WR not named Shakir.

 

Down:

 

Michael Hoecht - A season-ending Achilles injury spoiled an otherwise great night.  The Bills will miss him.

Keon Coleman - Clearly still learning the game, but you would expect more of a high 2nd round pick.

Dean Prater - Doinking it off the pipe is no bueno.  The Bills avoided OT by knocking down the Hail Marys at the end.

[kkim0904]

Up

Bishop

DL

Kinkaid

 

Down

Bernard

Milano

Timeout

 

[jlgarsh]

I can't give Prater an arrow down when it was 52 yards and he's dealing with a calf injury. The fact that he's out there over Bass even with the injury tells me Bass is either nowhere near healthy, or that even injured, they prefer Prater to him. 

[JP51]

1 hour ago, jlgarsh said:

I can't give Prater an arrow down when it was 52 yards and he's dealing with a calf injury. The fact that he's out there over Bass even with the injury tells me Bass is either nowhere near healthy, or that even injured, they prefer Prater to him. 

Oh I think its the later...  Honestly wasnt aware of the calf...  maybe I change a bit with that...  but in the end we forsaked the punt to ice the game and failed Defense bailed us out... but I have seen other scenarios where it goes awry... still love the guy and am happier with him than Bass... but we really gotta have that one next time.

[JP51]

19 hours ago, Walking Tall said:

No, I haven’t forgot that at all. Coleman is an albatross. I’ll take Davis any day of the week over Coleman.

at this point with the production I have seen from Shavers, Moore, Samuel, Coleman and you know what... I will even say Palmer all averaging less than 40 yards a game and averaging less than 20 amongst the 5 how could you possibly go wrong... taking out a Shavers who is averaging 7 yds per game, or a Moore who is like at 11 ....